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Post by nevadaballin on Aug 15, 2015 23:34:56 GMT -5
if you miss the green to the right, you be OB. Yes, the pin is also on that side of the green. Not sure why there is an OB that close to the green.
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Post by theduke21 on Aug 16, 2015 0:36:10 GMT -5
Tricky little hole. Love the design though. You have to be really careful to avoid a squirt right.
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Post by CGilb on Aug 16, 2015 8:55:31 GMT -5
I think it's one of the most brilliant holes I've played on this game.
Eagle is in play, double bogey is in play.
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Post by nevadaballin on Aug 16, 2015 10:55:02 GMT -5
Oh no, i will disagree on it being "brilliant" until the world ends. The moment designers start thinking that is brilliant, it will become common until it gets to a point where anything but the green is OB. Then we're into the realm of trick up courses and arcade golf. It isn't brilliant, it's a mistake. But that's fine, we make mistakes. The point of this thread was just to let people know it is there, not to bash the hole.
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Post by mellowswe on Aug 16, 2015 14:33:48 GMT -5
Wait...do you mean 14 or 15? 14 is the par 5 with the road on the right and 15 is the par 3.
If you mean the par 3 I agree about the OB in that "bushy" area to the right of the hole. To me it's more about realism and I can't see a real course manager justifying putting OB there. Maybe if there was a deep ravine or something, but not just bushes and rough...
Now the road is a completely different matter. That really feels like it would be OB on a real course and I don't mind it running close to the green, on both 14 and 15.
I have a feeling CGilb is talking about the par 5 when he says that eagle is in play and I agree there, that hole is perfect risk/reward.
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Post by nevadaballin on Aug 16, 2015 16:07:56 GMT -5
Wait...do you mean 14 or 15? 14 is the par 5 with the road on the right and 15 is the par 3. If you mean the par 3 I agree about the OB in that "bushy" area to the right of the hole. To me it's more about realism and I can't see a real course manager justifying putting OB there. Maybe if there was a deep ravine or something, but not just bushes and rough... Now the road is a completely different matter. That really feels like it would be OB on a real course and I don't mind it running close to the green, on both 14 and 15. I have a feeling CGilb is talking about the par 5 when he says that eagle is in play and I agree there, that hole is perfect risk/reward. Yes the par 3, 15th.
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Post by theduke21 on Aug 16, 2015 16:08:11 GMT -5
I don't think it's a tricked up hole at all. There's a hole across the street from where I live that runs right up to the road and is out of bounds all down the right side. It's maybe 10 yards from the fairway to out of bounds. 17th at St. Andrews is a bit like that too before the green. It's definitely really tight with the green but it's a realistic design.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2015 16:17:33 GMT -5
There is a difference between a hole being realistic in real life versus being realistic in the game.
This game has flaws that has to be accounted for, you cannot create a realistic hole and expected to play as it does in real life.
This is a problem and a major flaw that most designers overlook in this game
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Post by nevadaballin on Aug 16, 2015 16:24:14 GMT -5
There is a difference between a hole being realistic in real life versus being realistic in the game. This game has flaws that has to be accounted for, you cannot create a realistic hole and expected to play as it does in real life. This is a problem and a major flaw that most designers overlook in this game this was just a bad OB placement. Highlight Reel time >>> .
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Post by nevadaballin on Aug 16, 2015 16:27:20 GMT -5
I don't think it's a tricked up hole at all. There's a hole across the street from where I live that runs right up to the road and is out of bounds all down the right side. It's maybe 10 yards from the fairway to out of bounds. 17th at St. Andrews is a bit like that too before the green. It's definitely really tight with the green but it's a realistic design. I don't think you are talking about the same hole I am. View the video above and tell me you think that is proper.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2015 16:34:44 GMT -5
And it was a poor choice made by the designer. .. there's nothing wrong with the hole, but ob placement is a double edged sword. This game with its random wind and nasty unpredictable snap hooks and slices can wreak havoc at anytime. This is up to designer to ensure it is fair at least 90 percent of the time, to allow for the game flaws
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Post by tastegw on Aug 16, 2015 17:15:12 GMT -5
ya nevada, just watched the video you posted, that just aint right, right in front of the green to the right is OB, should have never been OB there as anything short right is ob, i can understand making the road OB, but not that extra patch he placed inside the road.
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Post by theduke21 on Aug 16, 2015 17:40:40 GMT -5
I don't think it's a tricked up hole at all. There's a hole across the street from where I live that runs right up to the road and is out of bounds all down the right side. It's maybe 10 yards from the fairway to out of bounds. 17th at St. Andrews is a bit like that too before the green. It's definitely really tight with the green but it's a realistic design. I don't think you are talking about the same hole I am. View the video above and tell me you think that is proper. Yep, we weren't. I was thinking of the par 5 which I thought was a fantastic hole. I didn't even see that was OB there. Doesn't seem necessary.
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Post by nevadaballin on Aug 16, 2015 17:52:08 GMT -5
As long as everyone is aware that it's there, we're all good. Again, this is an awareness thread for everyone, just a head's up. It isn't meant to hammer on the designer or the course itself. Overall I really like the course.
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Post by fuzion on Aug 16, 2015 18:21:14 GMT -5
Needs some OOB stakes too? (I didn't see any in the vid)
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