albinobluesheep
Weekend Golfer
Posts: 122
TGCT Name: Kevin Davis
Tour: Challenge Circuit
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Post by albinobluesheep on Feb 21, 2024 0:42:46 GMT -5
The " Bolstering Intellectual Rights against Digital Infringement Enhancement Act” or the “BIRDIE Act,” www.sportico.com/law/analysis/2024/birdie-bill-golf-courses-copyright-law-1234767246/“Each artist, creator, or designer deserves the full protection of our copyright law, and golf course architects should be no different,” Fitzpatrick told Sportico. “ Piracy and unauthorized replication of golf course designs in digital or virtual simulations threaten the livelihoods of the profession.”
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Post by metatropic on Feb 21, 2024 1:16:44 GMT -5
An interesting detail is that the proposed new law will only apply to courses built after 1990; this could include renovations…
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Post by paddyjk19 on Feb 21, 2024 2:20:38 GMT -5
Surely will only apply to folk trying to sell or make money from recreating a likeness. I’d say it’ll just put pressure on 2k to delete courses if flagged by the rights holder
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Post by yeltzman on Feb 21, 2024 6:39:26 GMT -5
Yep the boom in golf simulators the main reason for this, but really i think it's slightly worrying for the course designer as well. Going to be a few interesting years ahead if this law is passed in the usa lets just enjoy the current times whilst we have it.
Can also imagine course rights will go up in price as well for companies wanting to reproduce them.
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Post by metatropic on Feb 21, 2024 6:54:23 GMT -5
Yeah I can see 2k thinking that the easiest way to manage this is to ditch the course designer altogether.
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Post by BaconJunkie1 on Feb 26, 2024 7:24:37 GMT -5
This subject of LiDARs has always been like walking a tightrope but sadly it looks like the powers that be might have the knife out. I've retired but still get "The Itch" at times, many LiDAR projects left to gather dust but we will have to see how this plays out. We put a lot of time into these to have them deleted, I know you all know.
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Post by gamesdecent on Feb 27, 2024 13:20:25 GMT -5
Don't see how it's enforceable unless you're naming it and infringing on the logos/trademarks themselves. MAYBE if you're using private LIDAR data somehow, but most of it is taxpayer funded and available on public databases, and even then it's usually only accurate to like a meter. On top of that, I'm pretty sure all of the major simulator software products already pay for course licenses, so who are you even targeting with this? Are you saying they should be paying the architects a licensing fee instead of the courses themselves? Both? What about the clubhouse architect?
This almost feels more like a "foothold" law that will later be used beyond just virtual golf courses that people can point to for protection against generative AI. Even the name is broad and general besides the fact that "birdie" is a golf term.
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Post by sandgroper on Feb 28, 2024 0:25:58 GMT -5
First, THIS is the biggest problem that America is facing as a country right now? (yes, it's rhetorical)... Secondly, how many lattes (a marketing drink) did they need to come up with BIRDIE as an acronym and what other did they try BOGIE, SANDSAVE? Finally, good luck enforcing it! So a dude in New Zealand downloads some LiDAR data from a Florida map and calls his course Frump Unnatural Golf Resort. How is some dodgy US law going to be enforced in NZ? Will they charge him in The Hague on war crimes? I'd be concentrating on trying to keep the states united before there's another 1861. Having played at Royal Gems in Bangkok where they advertise the best golf holes of the world for the front 9 and Augusta for the back 9, lets see how this goes... www.golfasian.com/golf-courses/thailand-golf-courses/bangkok/royal-gems-golf-city/
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Post by metatropic on Feb 28, 2024 3:20:29 GMT -5
I don’t think this will affect us directly at all. It’s 2k’s lawyers I worry about!
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Post by paddyjk19 on Feb 28, 2024 3:35:53 GMT -5
At worst I can see us just having to name courses differently, and I mean that’s at the absolute worst.
It’s like non licensed cricket games will call the real player something different for example - Josh Hazlewood would be J. Hasselwood.
Courses like The Old course and Augusta have already contacted 2k for censorship and I’m pretty sure EA was more involved than you think with that element.
It’ll be purely down to certain courses knowing there is a replica of their course using their brand that will have to send a cease and desist to 2k.
I’ll just have to change Pine Valley to Pine Basin 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Post by sandgroper on Feb 28, 2024 3:55:00 GMT -5
I don’t think this will affect us directly at all. It’s 2k’s lawyers I worry about! But America isn't very litigious is it? :hide:
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Post by bubbadave on Feb 28, 2024 12:24:31 GMT -5
First, THIS is the biggest problem that America is facing as a country right now? (yes, it's rhetorical)... Secondly, how many lattes (a marketing drink) did they need to come up with BIRDIE as an acronym and what other did they try BOGIE, SANDSAVE? Finally, good luck enforcing it! So a dude in New Zealand downloads some LiDAR data from a Florida map and calls his course Frump Unnatural Golf Resort. How is some dodgy US law going to be enforced in NZ? Will they charge him in The Hague on war crimes? I'd be concentrating on trying to keep the states united before there's another 1861. Having played at Royal Gems in Bangkok where they advertise the best golf holes of the world for the front 9 and Augusta for the back 9, lets see how this goes... www.golfasian.com/golf-courses/thailand-golf-courses/bangkok/royal-gems-golf-city/Google the Unlawful Internet Gaming Enforcement Act (UIGEA), passed in 2006, for an answer to our government's overreach. That said, I don't think there is any interest, politically, for it getting any real backing in Congress. Then again, I'm getting used to the idiocy in my government.
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