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Post by SloanerTW on May 3, 2015 21:13:06 GMT -5
ah ok mb i thought i heard it somewhere lol
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Post by Pubknight on May 4, 2015 5:58:56 GMT -5
But, in that regard, because the swing is connected to frame rate now... any patch that does improve frame rate could theoretically impact the feel of the swing for some people. Personally I try to keep my frame rate as stable as possible because of that. I use Adaptive V Sync (nvidia control panel settings) to prevent the frame rate from skyrocketing at times. Find it gives a much smoother feel overall.
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Post by blueorfe on May 6, 2015 4:51:30 GMT -5
Hey all, Just wondering what you think of the new update. I believe they tweaked putting again because personally I'm finding things are a lot more fluid in putting. I have seen a 6 foot putt, suddenly race by 15 feet on a stroke I have used on magnolia which didn't have that result. The other thing I'm finding is downhill putts are breaking a bit more than what they used to. It feels better, but is going to take some time getting used to. Just wondering if anyone else has experienced this. Overall the game play seems smoother. I'm getting about 120 FPS on some holes which is up about 20 from previously and averaging over 75. Colours and everything seems sharper. I absolutely believe that there has been a change. My putting had become very good on PC lately. But since the update I have been missing so many putts on the high side and racing putts a long way past the hole on downhillers. I wasn't doing that until this week, my lag putting down hill is usually very good. I was wondering why I was missing everything in the PGA this week, it just felt different. I didn't even think about the new patch as I was playing as I didn't think that there were any gameplay changes. The last time I played Gator was with you Ron. As you witnessed, I was holing more or less everything that I looked at. This just hasn't been the case since the May update.
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Post by Brighttail on May 6, 2015 11:40:53 GMT -5
Hey all, Just wondering what you think of the new update. I believe they tweaked putting again because personally I'm finding things are a lot more fluid in putting. I have seen a 6 foot putt, suddenly race by 15 feet on a stroke I have used on magnolia which didn't have that result. The other thing I'm finding is downhill putts are breaking a bit more than what they used to. It feels better, but is going to take some time getting used to. Just wondering if anyone else has experienced this. Overall the game play seems smoother. I'm getting about 120 FPS on some holes which is up about 20 from previously and averaging over 75. Colours and everything seems sharper. I absolutely believe that there has been a change. My putting had become very good on PC lately. But since the update I have been missing so many putts on the high side and racing putts a long way past the hole on downhillers. I wasn't doing that until this week, my lag putting down hill is usually very good. I was wondering why I was missing everything in the PGA this week, it just felt different. I didn't even think about the new patch as I was playing as I didn't think that there were any gameplay changes. The last time I played Gator was with you Ron. As you witnessed, I was holing more or less everything that I looked at. This just hasn't been the case since the May update. I fully remember the -14 you put up with me. Putting definitely feels different. I have had rounds where it was feeling on and other rounds I couldn't figure out what or why. According to HB the FPS of the animation is now independent of the course. If this is true, the animation of putting will be higher FPS than the course so it will seem more smooth and faster in a way. That is the way it felt at the start, all my putts were going way beyond the hole.
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Post by Pubknight on May 6, 2015 12:01:41 GMT -5
According to HB the FPS of the animation is now independent of the course. If this is true, the animation of putting will be higher FPS than the course so it will seem more smooth and faster in a way. That is the way it felt at the start, all my putts were going way beyond the hole. Have you got a reference for that... the according to HB part? Would be interested in reading it because frames per second is frames per second. Two things on your screen can't have different frames per second. That still sounds a lot like the separating swing from fps idea, which is still something in the pipeline (as I understand it). Just curious where you read what HB had to say on it.
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Post by Brighttail on May 6, 2015 14:21:12 GMT -5
According to HB the FPS of the animation is now independent of the course. If this is true, the animation of putting will be higher FPS than the course so it will seem more smooth and faster in a way. That is the way it felt at the start, all my putts were going way beyond the hole. Have you got a reference for that... the according to HB part? Would be interested in reading it because frames per second is frames per second. Two things on your screen can't have different frames per second. That still sounds a lot like the separating swing from fps idea, which is still something in the pipeline (as I understand it). Just curious where you read what HB had to say on it. It was on the HB forums somewhere I glanced at it in passing. I agree with you that animations shouldn't have a different frame rate. What I do know is I went from 80-100FPS prior to the patch to 120-150 FPS after the patch. I found that every putt i was making was about 1 1/2 to 2 x harder than needed. It was much smoother but wow I was killing the ball. I had to turn down settings to get back to the 80 FPS and I could once again putt hole speed. Bottom line is I'm not sure WHAT exactly changed, but myself, Brionne, Brad and others have all noticed it and have been struggling to adjust. I'm sure we will with time, but I'll be curious as to when the patch hit the other platforms how will those people find putting?
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Post by Pubknight on May 6, 2015 14:24:32 GMT -5
They probably won't notice much difference since the framerates on XB1 or PS4 would never get that high. Just as a test, why not try Adaptive VSync in your nvidia control panel, and see if that makes a difference?
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Post by Brighttail on May 6, 2015 15:05:47 GMT -5
They probably won't notice much difference since the framerates on XB1 or PS4 would never get that high. Just as a test, why not try Adaptive VSync in your nvidia control panel, and see if that makes a difference? I'm running with G-sync at 144MHz so V-sync is kinda backwards technology for me at this point. I'm not even 100% it has to do with the FPS at this point. All i know is something has changed. Brionne thinks the wind has changed but I was able to throw darts at many of these flags and the wind seemed fine with me. It was the putting for me that something changed and I gotta adjust to.
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Post by Pubknight on May 6, 2015 15:27:34 GMT -5
Gotcha.
While I don't see a difference in putting, something seems different. I think off-centre hits (still inside the cone) are moving more... not staying as straight. And combined with wind, that could exaggerate what the wind is doing. Just a gut feel... can't say anything definitively one way or another. That's why I'm so curious what HB said, as something is just a shade... different. Not better, or worse, just... different. And I can't put my finger on exactly what it is.
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Post by Brighttail on May 6, 2015 16:13:38 GMT -5
Gotcha. While I don't see a difference in putting, something seems different. I think off-centre hits (still inside the cone) are moving more... not staying as straight. And combined with wind, that could exaggerate what the wind is doing. Just a gut feel... can't say anything definitively one way or another. That's why I'm so curious what HB said, as something is just a shade... different. Not better, or worse, just... different. And I can't put my finger on exactly what it is. Agreed, something is different. I just remember when people said i was crazy for saying there was a thing called "ball squirt". I'm telling ya, something is different.
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Post by Pubknight on May 6, 2015 18:11:40 GMT -5
Oh dude. Don't get me going on ball squirt.
That point aside, there is something. It's subtle... it might even be better... but it's different. And I think people are seeing it in the areas they are most dialed in on, because that's where it is easiest for them to notice something is different.
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Post by SmilingGoats on May 6, 2015 20:20:01 GMT -5
I feel like the putts are breaking too early off the face of the putter like they use to before they fixed that a few updates ago. I could be wrong but that seems like what I'm seeing.
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Post by Pubknight on May 6, 2015 21:43:16 GMT -5
I honestly have no idea any more. Just played a round and I've either gotten used to whatever changed (if anything), or it was all in my head. Today, everything seemed 'normal'.
It really is like real golf. Keep tinkering with my swing when it isn't broken and create problems and see things that don't exist.
I'm just going to play and stop trying to think so much.
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