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Post by rchwallace on Dec 22, 2020 14:00:22 GMT -5
Hey guys,
So today I am working on playable 4 pin locations as well as tee boxes. I was going to do 4 tees but really does anyone play anything other than the Blacks?.... anyway, it will be three... so my question.
I am revising the LiDAR placement of pins and tees to match yardage. When I do everything looks great, I get all tees and pins in location with the main Pin being the set distance from the tee.... however.... When I check my scorecard I am out on a few by a yard or two... wondering if anyone has seen this and has a tip for nailing down the yardages, I suspect that I might be doing it in the wrong order or something.
I am... Adjusting the initial TEE Adjusting the initial PIN Adding PINS Adding TEES
Thks
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Post by SteelVike on Dec 22, 2020 14:45:28 GMT -5
This happens because on some holes the waypoint in the middle of the hole is off-line from the tee and green waypoints (doglegs). The bigger the dogleg, the bigger the discrepancy in yardage. Happens to all of us and unfortunately I don't know of a workaround.
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mal
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Post by mal on Dec 22, 2020 17:19:21 GMT -5
Real life scorecard yardages are from a measurement that begins from the (supposed to be) center of each tee box and ends at the center point of the green. Par 4 and 5 holes are measured along the line of sight to each pivot point(s) in the fairway.
In game yardages do not match scorecard yardage due to yardage in the designer being calculated from tee position to green waypoint and along the absolute line to and from the single mid-waypoint set along the hole. Then, when you play a round, the yardage is measured from tee position to pin placement along the absolute line to and from the single mid-waypoint set along the hole.
If you try to match the scorecard you can end up with holes that do not play correctly in the game. Waypoints that are set far away from the pivot point and/or off the fairway to artificially adjust yardage, or setting the mid-waypoint too far away or too close to the tee can end up with odd club suggestions and target issues.
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Post by yeltzman on Dec 22, 2020 17:33:03 GMT -5
I have always found because most courses the tees are measured from the back of the tee box,i add a yard or two of green at the back of the tee box,so it just plays a bit better in game so the tee is not right at the back of the tee texture. In the end espically on console how the camera's and no flyover, hard to tell if a hole is correct or not these days.As long as it feels right these days i am more than happy what i play.
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mal
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Post by mal on Dec 22, 2020 18:23:26 GMT -5
UK and USA/Canada can be very different in how they measure courses, plus a detailed yardage chart isn't a scorecard yardage measurement. In the US, scorecard yardage is regulated by the USGA and is what contributes to Par, Course and Slope ratings (the last two of which are registered trademarks of the USGA). Most of the differences I have noticed in the game are due to everything wanting to be in meters regardless of your displayed measurement unit.
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Post by PicnicGuy / BobalooNOLA on Dec 24, 2020 15:16:13 GMT -5
Not to sound dumb, but are you using the hole info options, it toggles on xb with right stick, in place of the tool info ?
I think it shows the playing length of the hole, while the numbers up top are raw straight-line distances. Hopefully someone corrects me if wrong.
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Post by yeltzman on Dec 24, 2020 17:34:13 GMT -5
Not to sound dumb, but are you using the hole info options, it toggles on xb with right stick, in place of the tool info ? I think it shows the playing length of the hole, while the numbers up top are raw straight-line distances. Hopefully someone corrects me if wrong. You are correct you can only see the hole distances on the scorecard, when your playing its distance from tee to hole not centre of green.
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Post by rchwallace on Dec 24, 2020 20:58:29 GMT -5
Well I hope that the crittical are not too hard on me but I have decided to live with the slight yardage differences. The Blacks are so close but once I got right around the course I found that the location of my Green markers on some of the holes was just purely “out”, for me at this point the primary concern is that it plays well and I think it does. It plays as one expects on the course.
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