adx321
Weekend Golfer
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Post by adx321 on Sept 8, 2020 20:47:34 GMT -5
I'm not sure if this is just due to the conversion process adding more slope on greens from 19 to 21 but it seems people have really gotten happy to put red all over greens.
If your green is large and you're using it to create "areas" that's one thing but the trend seems to be red/orange 3 feet from the cup and I hope this trend stops soon.
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Post by Violinguy69 on Sept 8, 2020 21:32:54 GMT -5
Around the holes, yellow is fine, orange is probably fine and red is not. If there is red in the 9-box square around the hole, then it's not a good pin placement. The greens are very different in 2K21.
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Post by b101 on Sept 9, 2020 0:54:46 GMT -5
I'm not sure if this is just due to the conversion process adding more slope on greens from 19 to 21 but it seems people have really gotten happy to put red all over greens. If your green is large and you're using it to create "areas" that's one thing but the trend seems to be red/orange 3 feet from the cup and I hope this trend stops soon. It’s a way more complex issue than you think and not all to do with greens. Lots of this will be the porting process - what was yellow in 19 is now a spectrum of light green to orange in 2K. Plus, slower green speeds were awful in 19 so we designed at the higher speed. If you port at the same speed, it will play much tougher than it used to. On top of that, hitting fairways and greens very accurately in 19 was trivial, so the challenge needed to be ramped up on the greens in a way that it doesn’t so much any more. Designers are rightly happy to let their ported courses stand as they are. If you want fewer red slopes, just tone down the green speeds manually when you play. Putting them at moderate (144) will solve it on almost all courses.
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Post by cliffs on Sept 19, 2020 8:06:14 GMT -5
This is my biggest gripe about the game...almost all greens seem to be on the side of mountains now. I haven't seen many "flat" greens at all. Oh sure, we can all practice and get better at putting but I want to enjoy my game not have to 2-4 putt every hole.
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Post by PicnicGuy / BobalooNOLA on Sept 19, 2020 11:11:09 GMT -5
Meh, as a decent putter, I don't mind either the new mechanic or slope speeds.
I try to keep it to yellow as a designer, and actually find most yellows are really not that tough in '21 - orange is another beast.
Comfortable with speeds about 163, slower is actually harder for me, especially uphill on longer putts - which I leave a lot of. Give me a 12' sidehill everytime over a 24' straight up a 2 foot-high shelf.
That said, if I manage a 1.75 PPH in the Q-School slog, I'll be happy enough, since I'm liable to play safe as often as possible until I'm eitherv well inside the top 1400 or so far out of it that I might as well lose a few balls. Speaking of which, we can buy clubs to aid performance, how come we can't buy balls ?
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Post by b101 on Sept 19, 2020 11:29:56 GMT -5
This is my biggest gripe about the game...almost all greens seem to be on the side of mountains now. I haven't seen many "flat" greens at all. Oh sure, we can all practice and get better at putting but I want to enjoy my game not have to 2-4 putt every hole. Then tone the green speeds down. Put them to moderate - 144s - and you have them to suit your level.
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