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Post by grinder12000 on Sept 16, 2019 8:47:20 GMT -5
REALLY not a fan of calling the game "easy" on PS4. Definite bugbear of mine. It's "easi(ER)," that has been shown and proven, i accept it, gladly; but I am an above average player, on the Euro tour, decent on TST, and i do NOT find the game "easy." If i'm not concentrating and focused, on form, I will get fast and slow swings, and I will not get good results. Even without fast and slows, I don't find it easy. Less good players on PS4 get less good scores, elite players on PC and XB1 get elite scores. Yes, the averages are skewed, yes those less good players will do better and those elite players will have to fight for their good scores, but calling it "easy" on PS4 is disrespectful, in my opinion. I play a lot of hours, i work at my game, i work for my good scores. Really wish this narrative could be dropped... And anyway, unless i'm understadning wrong, that video showed the results of flicking, not normal PS4 play. I feel they want to create a war between PS4 and XBOX/PC and make us hate each other better players will will do better on PS4 but just because you play PS4 does not automatically make you better .
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Post by alternateplace on Sept 16, 2019 9:06:33 GMT -5
I thoroughly enjoy this game and it frustrates me to no end that I may be competing with players who are playing an easier game than me. I love the competition but if it is tainted by losers who disguise themselves as winners, we have a real disappointing problem on our hands. It is complete BS if any of the top players are using unfair "advantages" in any way. What satisfaction comes from that. It's so gross! Why on earth can't we see swing lines on "ghost" balls, wouldn't that help in filtering out the "GARBAGE" HB needs to make it so that it is not possible to "gain" the system. (PERIOD)
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Post by alternateplace on Sept 16, 2019 9:23:36 GMT -5
In order for this game to reach it's full potential, fair play needs to be addressed. The integrity of the comoetitions are paramount, without it the game is not worth playing competitively. Hopefully they can figure out how to do that while keeping the same swing mechanics but I'd be perfectly fine with going back to the 3 click swing to ensure fair play. Are there any other known ways of gaining a competitive edge? Ive heard of "mapping" the greens but that seems overboard so not sure on that. I'm stuck in the 60-70 WGR range but I wonder what it would be minus the 8======================D's. IIII WONDER.......
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2019 13:59:21 GMT -5
A 16 under for one round on TST posted.
For me the game would not even be fun to play. It would be the same if is if I shot 16 over. What is the point? Either way you are not playing golf. It is just putt putt but on a much longer course.
Yawn.
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Post by nobluffme on Sept 17, 2019 8:22:06 GMT -5
A 16 under for one round on TST posted. For me the game would not even be fun to play. It would be the same if is if I shot 16 over. What is the point? Either way you are not playing golf. It is just putt putt but on a much longer course. Yawn. I saw that as well. Top TST Xbox score didn’t make top 10 overall for round 1. which is why whenever I check my position, I automatically exclude PS4/PC.
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Post by mrohde4 on Sept 17, 2019 8:42:16 GMT -5
A 16 under for one round on TST posted. For me the game would not even be fun to play. It would be the same if is if I shot 16 over. What is the point? Either way you are not playing golf. It is just putt putt but on a much longer course. Yawn. I saw that as well. Top TST Xbox score didn’t make top 10 overall for round 1. which is why whenever I check my position, I automatically exclude PS4/PC. Just want to be clear this isn’t applicable to everyone who plays PS4. Many PS4 users, myself included, find the game very challenging. I’m convinced the code is designed for a full swing line to allow players to be mostly accurate without throwing darts on every shot, regardless of distance or loft. The short swing exploit, which is the main subject of this thread, allows players to eliminate many of the challenging course management intricacies. Unless you’re a short-swing dart thrower, shooting a good score requires managing many variables and making distance putts. It’s mostly a PS4 issue, but not all PS4 players use it. Watch videos. Look at swing length and watch the ball flight. Ask yourself whether the short swingers are playing the same game as you.
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Post by cephyn on Sept 17, 2019 8:54:36 GMT -5
I saw that as well. Top TST Xbox score didn’t make top 10 overall for round 1. which is why whenever I check my position, I automatically exclude PS4/PC. Just want to be clear this isn’t applicable to everyone who plays PS4. Many PS4 users, myself included, find the game very challenging. I’m convinced the code is designed for a full swing line to allow players to be mostly accurate without throwing darts on every shot, regardless of distance or loft. The short swing exploit, which is the main subject of this thread, allows players to eliminate many of the challenging course management intricacies. Unless you’re a short-swing dart thrower, shooting a good score requires managing many variables and making distance putts. It’s mostly a PS4 issue, but not all PS4 players use it. Watch videos. Look at swing length and watch the ball flight. Ask yourself whether the short swingers are playing the same game as you. yeah, but imagine how much more challenging you'd find the game on xbox.
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Post by fadgewacker on Sept 17, 2019 8:57:23 GMT -5
Just want to be clear this isn’t applicable to everyone who plays PS4. Many PS4 users, myself included, find the game very challenging. I’m convinced the code is designed for a full swing line to allow players to be mostly accurate without throwing darts on every shot, regardless of distance or loft. The short swing exploit, which is the main subject of this thread, allows players to eliminate many of the challenging course management intricacies. Unless you’re a short-swing dart thrower, shooting a good score requires managing many variables and making distance putts. It’s mostly a PS4 issue, but not all PS4 players use it. Watch videos. Look at swing length and watch the ball flight. Ask yourself whether the short swingers are playing the same game as you. yeah, but imagine how much more challenging you'd find the game on xbox. I think the overriding thing here is that many on PS4 want the game to be challenging, and equally so across platforms. Many, however, don’t... and would happily continue to play to the games exploits to their benefit.
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Post by nobluffme on Sept 17, 2019 12:17:05 GMT -5
Can’t imagine why anyone needs to cheat to have fun. Must be an ego thing to see their name at the top. Since I switched to Masters clubs this season, I know I’ll never ever win. To me, winning isn’t why I play. I play to be challenged. Just finished Round 2 of TST, with Masters, I only shot +2. 16 pars and two bogies. I found the round tense at times, challenging as always with Masters clubs and having aids turned off...well, to me, that is why I play.
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Post by flyingj75 on Sept 17, 2019 15:29:45 GMT -5
A 16 under for one round on TST posted. For me the game would not even be fun to play. It would be the same if is if I shot 16 over. What is the point? Either way you are not playing golf. It is just putt putt but on a much longer course. Yawn. Actually, it would be great to get on that kind of roll IF you played it fairly, and if you are speaking of CuseHokie's score in round 1, I assure you he did. There was a hole out and some phenomenal putting that round. Now, some of the top guys that do it practically every round, I can assure you that there is shenanigans at play (read Flicking/Shortswing thread).
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Post by paris548 on Sept 17, 2019 17:06:03 GMT -5
A 16 under for one round on TST posted. For me the game would not even be fun to play. It would be the same if is if I shot 16 over. What is the point? Either way you are not playing golf. It is just putt putt but on a much longer course. Yawn. Actually, it would be great to get on that kind of roll IF you played it fairly, and if you are speaking of CuseHokie's score in round 1, I assure you he did. There was a hole out and some phenomenal putting that round. Now, some of the top guys that do it practically every round, I can assure you that there is shenanigans at play (read Flicking/Shortswing thread). Jon, Paul was actually speaking of the -16 shot in the first round of TST.. I think everyone should (by now) know that Mitch plays the game honorably.. Just to be clear, I'm not saying the person in TST that shot -16 doesn't..
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Post by flyingj75 on Sept 17, 2019 18:57:05 GMT -5
Actually, it would be great to get on that kind of roll IF you played it fairly, and if you are speaking of CuseHokie's score in round 1, I assure you he did. There was a hole out and some phenomenal putting that round. Now, some of the top guys that do it practically every round, I can assure you that there is shenanigans at play (read Flicking/Shortswing thread). Jon, Paul was actually speaking of the -16 shot in the first round of TST.. I think everyone should (by now) know that Mitch plays the game honorably.. Just to be clear, I'm not saying the person in TST that shot -16 doesn't.. Oh, my bad! Carry on.
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Post by LKeet6 on Sept 18, 2019 3:12:48 GMT -5
in the second round, there were -15, -16 and -17 rounds, on tst... (i predict there were VERY few putts over 10ft...)
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Post by ezzinomilonga on Sept 18, 2019 3:24:26 GMT -5
There is a thing I still don't know and I was curious about from the start, so i ask now.. If someone who knows what to look exactly, should take a look at the chart of those absurd scores, it could be actually possible to recognize something unusual (even if not enough to be pulled by the API, I mean) that in some way "proofs" some cheat? I mean..is possible that there are not symptoms, not recognizable signals if someone cheats?
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Post by lessangster on Sept 18, 2019 6:25:23 GMT -5
I’ve just realised I’m a flicker on Xbox, there I’ve said it. I have a very light touch on the thumb-stick and sometimes my thumb slips off the top before I complete my full swing. I don’t shoot stupid low scores every week I’m not on one of the pro tours unless you count CC-C as one. I also play this game as much as anyone played 20 rounds his week already in various societies and have been playing TGC since the first game. How I see the game from an Xbox perspective is it’s more of a tempo simulator as long as you hit perfect/perfect you won’t stray very far from the middle of the fairway even if your slightly outside the blue area, in fact I’ve had swings that show the line shoot of at 45 deg from just past the centre point and just because I’ve hit P/P the ball hasn’t moved that far from centre. My trouble with Master Clubs is usually overshooting my intended landing area with the irons by hitting either P/F or P/S which leave me with a long putt or a chip from the back of the green. I’m not a great putter either. I have never been pulled by the API just lucky I guess. What do I do now go to flickers anonymous.
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