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Post by GW_Hope on May 20, 2019 21:43:05 GMT -5
I full swing, and my chart is not even close to that. I would post it but not sure about the rules on that. Why are we even still discussing this? The flick swing is a huge advantage if you can pass the API. Good (or shame) on you if you can pass. I feel no sympathy for those that fail, granted some have always used this swing for years. Some have changed their swing to conform but others have not. The only grudge I have is with HB, I warned them numerous times that this was an exploit but they refused to listen stating that it is difficult to do. Funny thing is they were testing on PC with an Xbox controller! We were told early in the season to use this swing at your own risk, I experimented with it and it is basically like using pro clubs with masters distance. I decided I didn’t want to play that way and the group of friends I play with all agree. This season is a joke and I just play to hold my card and hope a new game fixes this snafu for the future. Problem is I have little faith in HB at this time. Sad.
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Post by Brighttail on May 20, 2019 21:54:55 GMT -5
Welp 6 updates slid out on Monday. 2 Windows update that required 2 reboots so it installed in two parts. A GPU driver, Software for he Mousel not to mention two GeForce updates. This week is going to be an adventure and I don't think i have the time to figure anything out so I'm just going to play tomorrow. Either I'll be -12 or better with super straight shots that may/may not pass API or shooting -4 with no tempo. Taking bets. I'll put out -8 who wants to go higher/lower?
Also in EURO if I won or took 2nd place I lost 2-3 WGR rankings. Take middle of the road making the cuts and I lose 3-4. At this rate I expect to be out of the top 100 wthin the year.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 21:57:51 GMT -5
I full swing, and my chart is not even close to that. I would post it but not sure about the rules on that. Why are we even still discussing this? The flick swing is a huge advantage if you can pass the API. Good (or shame) on you if you can pass. I feel no sympathy for those that fail, granted some have always used this swing for years. Some have changed their swing to conform but others have not. The only grudge I have is with HB, I warned them numerous times that this was an exploit but they refused to listen stating that it is difficult to do. Funny thing is they were testing on PC with an Xbox controller! We were told early in the season to use this swing at your own risk, I experimented with it and it is basically like using pro clubs with masters distance. I decided I didn’t want to play that way and the group of friends I play with all agree. This season is a joke and I just play to hold my card and hope a new game fixes this snafu for the future. Problem is I have little faith in HB at this time. Sad. Spot on, on 2 things. 1) Shame on you if you choose to use the exploit after already having the advantage of playing on PS4. I mean really, would you also cheat on a real course 2) This season is a joke. People with zero finesse competing for wins based on a cheat swing. At least we managed to get rid of Lazza, who wants fun people around making up fake names when we could have real names like Bob Loblaw and Dwain Pipe on the tours.
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Post by mrohde4 on May 20, 2019 22:21:34 GMT -5
Should have a wide distribution. Maybe yours specifically always look like that but I do think that’s abnormal. He posted some of mine from the week I shot -21. I had every color of the rainbow practically - left and right. Yeah I remember that. So, sometimes when I miss the cone my shots start 5 - 10 yards offline. Are you telling me that you routinely deal with more offline shots than that? And in either direction? So your ball could go anywhere within a 20 yards of your aim? There's something I'm missing, because my ball doesn't move with this supposed tight dispersion, particularly long irons Commendable that you’re starting to grasp the differences between the full and flick swing. While part of me sympathizes with guys like Bob B (come back!) who have played this way since TGC1, the developers’ ostrich routine made it clear as day that the flick swing was not an intended design of the software. No game is perfect, it’s just a shame this flaw is so obvious. Oh well.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 23:08:15 GMT -5
Yeah I remember that. So, sometimes when I miss the cone my shots start 5 - 10 yards offline. Are you telling me that you routinely deal with more offline shots than that? And in either direction? So your ball could go anywhere within a 20 yards of your aim? There's something I'm missing, because my ball doesn't move with this supposed tight dispersion, particularly long irons Commendable that you’re starting to grasp the differences between the full and flick swing. While part of me sympathizes with guys like Bob B (come back!) who have played this way since TGC1, the developers’ ostrich routine made it clear as day that the flick swing was not an intended design of the software. No game is perfect, it’s just a shame this flaw is so obvious. Oh well. It's evident that a fundamental flaw exists somewhere in this equation. Especially when my actual dispersion is not reflected accurately by this chart. It's been said that 4 data points are used in the calc, yet only 30 marks in the chart. I shot 60 in this round so where's the other 200 data points? Secondly, I could easily pass api by deliberately pulling a few tee shots. Just stating that as a fact, that since it is true, highlights how useless this method really is. Imo the chart shows reasonable dispersion. I also understand why it appears to be suspect, however there is plenty of steaming on my channel that proves there is no right slide. All that said, no need to kill the thread, no need to institute a season ban or whatever. This will be my last post. This isn't important enough to me change the way I play the game. See you in the next iteration!
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 23:20:55 GMT -5
Playing fairly really should be important to people who compete at anything.
I guess not everyone is wired the same way.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 23:26:18 GMT -5
Playing fairly really should be important to people who compete at anything. I guess not everyone is wired the same way. What you're saying is an opinion. I am swinging in a way that the game allows, with a regular ds4. Any requirement that YOU set beyond that is invalid, because ANYONE CAN DO IT. The problem is not in the swing. But I guess not everyone has the iq to recognize that. Good day air
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 23:29:21 GMT -5
Playing fairly really should be important to people who compete at anything. I guess not everyone is wired the same way. What you're saying is an opinion. I am swinging in a way that the game allows, with a regular ds4. Any requirement that YOU set beyond that is invalid, because ANYONE CAN DO IT. The problem is not in the swing. But I guess not everyone has the iq to recognize that. Good day air Anyone can do it? Who on PC or XBox can do it? The API decides who’s cheating, my opinion is simply that it SHOULD matter to anyone with integrity that they are playing fair. Like I said, we’re all wired differently. For me playing fair is more important than my results, obviously for you it’s not. More power to you dude, flick away 👌🏻 Edit - IQ has nothing to do with whether you choose to use a cheat or not, that’s integrity.
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Post by GW_Hope on May 20, 2019 23:35:09 GMT -5
I was originally against it, but I would be all for scrapping master clubs and make the tours all pro club only. It would solve Xbox and short swing issues. Unless a new game comes out.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 23:37:23 GMT -5
I was originally against it, but I would be all for scrapping master clubs and make the tours all pro club only. It would solve Xbox and short swing issues. Unless a new game comes out. A asked one of the cool kids to suggest that a few weeks ago, but none of them would. Taking a small bullet for the good of the entire tours is beyond some people’s selfishness threshold.
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Post by GW_Hope on May 21, 2019 0:00:32 GMT -5
I was originally against it, but I would be all for scrapping master clubs and make the tours all pro club only. It would solve Xbox and short swing issues. Unless a new game comes out. A asked one of the cool kids to suggest that a few weeks ago, but none of them would. Taking a small bullet for the good of the entire tours is beyond some people’s selfishness threshold. I would take that bullet if it made the tour more equal. It would need to be Masters not allowed. I believe Sloaner suggested it near the beginning of the season after what he found out about the short line swing.
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Post by humanecentipede on May 21, 2019 0:24:48 GMT -5
What you're saying is an opinion. I am swinging in a way that the game allows, with a regular ds4. Any requirement that YOU set beyond that is invalid, because ANYONE CAN DO IT. The problem is not in the swing. But I guess not everyone has the iq to recognize that. Good day air Anyone can do it? Who on PC or XBox can do it? The API decides who’s cheating, my opinion is simply that it SHOULD matter to anyone with integrity that they are playing fair. Like I said, we’re all wired differently. For me playing fair is more important than my results, obviously for you it’s not. More power to you dude, flick away 👌🏻 Edit - IQ has nothing to do with whether you choose to use a cheat or not, that’s integrity. I don’t think you’re going to change his mind, I used to play with this guy fairly often until he started talking about his short swing and how everyone should be doing it. It was frustrating watching him hit straight shot after straight shot knowing it would be almost impossible to beat him. And as for the “everyone can do it” argument re: PS4 players...I only have one regular DS4 controller and my swing looks like an EKG. I’ve tried the short swing out of curiosity and I wasn’t able to replicate it, not even once. I’m not sure it’s even possible with all stock DS4s. Regardless, I still have fun with the game, it’s a cool community (for the most part) and I’m grateful all of this is here for us and free.
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Post by GW_Hope on May 21, 2019 0:30:11 GMT -5
Anyone can do it? Who on PC or XBox can do it? The API decides who’s cheating, my opinion is simply that it SHOULD matter to anyone with integrity that they are playing fair. Like I said, we’re all wired differently. For me playing fair is more important than my results, obviously for you it’s not. More power to you dude, flick away 👌🏻 Edit - IQ has nothing to do with whether you choose to use a cheat or not, that’s integrity. I don’t think you’re going to change his mind, I used to play with this guy fairly often until he started talking about his short swing and how everyone should be doing it. It was frustrating watching him hit straight shot after straight shot knowing it would be almost impossible to beat him. And as for the “everyone can do it” argument re: PS4 players...I only have one regular DS4 controller and my swing looks like an EKG. I’ve tried the short swing out of curiosity and I wasn’t able to replicate it, not even once. I’m not sure it’s even possible with all stock DS4s. Regardless, I still have fun with the game, it’s a cool community (for the most part) and I’m grateful all of this is here for us and free. LOL. Mine reminds me of trying to draw a straight line on an Etch A Sketch.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2019 0:44:27 GMT -5
Here’s my data from a month or so back. Swinging straight is normally fairly easy for me, it’s the tempo that kills me. i.imgur.com/S0KDMBQ.png
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Post by humanecentipede on May 21, 2019 0:48:44 GMT -5
Here’s my data from a month or so back. Swinging straight is normally fairly easy for me, it’s the tempo that kills me. i.imgur.com/S0KDMBQ.pngNeat, how do you get that data? Edit: And I don't even really know how to interpret this, is yellow a straight shot?
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