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Post by SweetTeeBag on Dec 10, 2018 15:16:17 GMT -5
Im in cc-f and people shouldn't be getting -30/-40+ scores. We are down there for a reason, how can you compete, that is why we're f's. I recognize some of the players on the leaderboards from society events and they are way better than cc-f. Maybe tgct should've taken into account people's previous leagues as well as q school. Saying that tgct do a great job and without them i would've given this game up ages ago. TGCT cannot control who plays the actual in game Societies. Anyone can play them. What counts is the leaderboards here at TGCTours, IMO. I don't disagree but TGC Tours admins/president for the societies could ban vodka and all those other clowns playing the events. Making a mockery of the tours. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2018 15:33:17 GMT -5
TGCT cannot control who plays the actual in game Societies. Anyone can play them. What counts is the leaderboards here at TGCTours, IMO. I don't disagree but TGC Tours admins/president for the societies could ban vodka and all those other clowns playing the events. Making a mockery of the tours. Just ignore them. I mean, who cares, really?!?
I know who are actually TGCT members whose names are accepted here.
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Post by boffo on Dec 10, 2018 15:42:36 GMT -5
I don't think I've ever even looked at an in-game leaderboard because of how irrelevant it is.
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Post by SweetTeeBag on Dec 10, 2018 15:50:08 GMT -5
I don't disagree but TGC Tours admins/president for the societies could ban vodka and all those other clowns playing the events. Making a mockery of the tours. Just ignore them. I mean, who cares, really?!?
I know who are actually TGCT members whose names are accepted here.
I do Bob! 
It is what it is though. Then those guys make comments about anything and everything. Just annoying is all.
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Post by nevadaballin on Dec 10, 2018 16:59:11 GMT -5
Maybe trying to find his place in the new world I can understand all the reasons but the game is not that materially different. If a player was in the high ranks of PGA last season (which was only a few months ago) there is essentially 0% chance they would degrade that much to fall not down into web tour, not down into CC-A. not down into CC-B,. not down into CC-C, not down into CC-D, not down into CC-E, but fall from PGA all the way down to CC-F ? there is something wrong there. If you want to make the new game excuse for players then okay, completely reset the world rankings as of the start of this season with the new game. That's all I will say about this topic and I fully agree with the poster that said they might be sandbagging. I'm not making excuses for those people, just providing some explanations as to why they do it. There may be other reasons as well. Only those people who play the flights they aren't a part of can really tell you why they do it - and each one may have a different reason. Maybe some of them can do so in here. I'm not one of them - i'm lucky if I get my own flight rounds in each week lol. I have no doubt that there are sandbaggers. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2018 17:03:24 GMT -5
I can understand all the reasons but the game is not that materially different. If a player was in the high ranks of PGA last season (which was only a few months ago) there is essentially 0% chance they would degrade that much to fall not down into web tour, not down into CC-A. not down into CC-B,. not down into CC-C, not down into CC-D, not down into CC-E, but fall from PGA all the way down to CC-F ? there is something wrong there. If you want to make the new game excuse for players then okay, completely reset the world rankings as of the start of this season with the new game. That's all I will say about this topic and I fully agree with the poster that said they might be sandbagging. I'm not making excuses for those people, just providing some explanations as to why they do it. There may be other reasons as well. Only those people who play the flights they aren't a part of can really tell you why they do it - and each one may have a different reason. Maybe some of them can do so in here. I'm not one of them - i'm lucky if I get my own flight rounds in each week lol. When I first came to TGCTours I used to sometimes play the tours above me to compare scores to the better players and figure out their strategies, etc.
These days I on occasion (rarely, though) will play another tours' event but it would mainly be because they are playing on a course I really enjoy.
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Post by nevadaballin on Dec 10, 2018 17:10:07 GMT -5
I'm not making excuses for those people, just providing some explanations as to why they do it. There may be other reasons as well. Only those people who play the flights they aren't a part of can really tell you why they do it - and each one may have a different reason. Maybe some of them can do so in here. I'm not one of them - i'm lucky if I get my own flight rounds in each week lol. When I first came to TGCTours I used to sometimes play the tours above me to compare scores to the better players and figure out their strategies, etc.
These days I on occasion (rarely, though) will play another tours' event but it would mainly be because they are playing on a course I really enjoy.
I'm sure if someone searched this forum they would find instances where a top flight player(s) has played a lower flight and then posted in that flight forum that they have provided a ghost ball for them to follow. Always thought that was odd because there would be players who had already played that would miss out on that particular benefit. Some lower flight players would wait until they got a higher flight ghost ball before they would play as well. Maybe they are helping IRL friends? I dunno. |
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Post by sennagb on Dec 10, 2018 17:23:41 GMT -5
I had managed to battle and grind my way from ccZ in TGC1 into the top 130 in TGC2 (with an occasional flirt into the World Tour). I figured to hopefully one day make it into the top 100 (without too much confidence). After a fairly rubbish Q school I found myself languishing back down in CC-C and feel that this will be my permanent home. Now matter how much experience and knowledge I have accrued over the years of playing TGC no amount of calculation, feel and knowledge of wind, slope, distance, course management can compensate for the fact that I am lucky if I can hit one perfect/perfect stroke per hole !!. Any decision about the shot I have made is blown clean out of (and mostly into) the water. Having to make 30' putts to save par is the norm and the whole thing is becoming extremely frustrating and boring. It is only my love of computer golf (stemming back to quite pathetic attempts in the days of Sinclair Spectrums - for you oldies out there) and pigheaded stubbornness that keeps me playing week after week. How much longer for I can't say. It isn't for the lack of countless hours of practice. I sometimes think I am figuring it out, then bang !!! I can't hit a P/P in a whole round !!!. I sometimes take 15-20 practice strokes and hit one in 5-10 P/P without any noticeable change in how I control the mouse (yup, I'm a PC player).
So, rant/moan over. If any guy's are struggling in the lower reaches who used to be pretty good on TGC2, spare a thought they may well be almost at the point of giving up playing something they used to look forward to every week.
Good luck to all who have sussed this strangely broken game out.
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Post by linkslover on Dec 11, 2018 7:19:04 GMT -5
The only way I would play an event different to the one I was in would be if it was being played on a course I designed. Considering I'm not an active player right now due to time restraints and I've never had a course on tour, it's not likely to happen any time soon.  |
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Post by CTLegacy on Dec 11, 2018 11:47:01 GMT -5
You guys are all misunderstanding. Perhaps it is my fault for not explaining this situation clearly enough. I am not concerned with outsiders playing the tournaments IN GAME. That has no effect on TGCT. My complaint is about a golfer (on PC btw) who was in the PGA tour last season (on TGCT) and is now placed in CC-F as of last week and CC-E in the previous and current week.
Yes, the issue is the player is playing well under his true ability. It's unfair gameplay practice and especially for us down here in CC-E and CC-F who will likely never reach the PGA tour, to have to play against PGA caliber talent because of the terrible Q-school qualification forcing people to use masters clubs if they wanted a shot at PGA tour. It's a disaster. But just to clarify the issue. It is a PGA player who somehow got placed into CC-E, dropped to CC-F and is back in CC-E, still well below their actual ability. That's all. It's a very well known name. If anyone has been playing video game golf long enough will 100% recognize the name right away.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 11:54:30 GMT -5
It's a very well known name. If anyone has been playing video game golf long enough will 100% recognize the name right away. holy crap I see what you mean!  |
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Post by martbloke on Dec 11, 2018 12:44:03 GMT -5
You guys are all misunderstanding. Perhaps it is my fault for not explaining this situation clearly enough. I am not concerned with outsiders playing the tournaments IN GAME. That has no effect on TGCT. My complaint is about a golfer (on PC btw) who was in the PGA tour last season (on TGCT) and is now placed in CC-F as of last week and CC-E in the previous and current week. Yes, the issue is the player is playing well under his true ability. It's unfair gameplay practice and especially for us down here in CC-E and CC-F who will likely never reach the PGA tour, to have to play against PGA caliber talent because of the terrible Q-school qualification forcing people to use masters clubs if they wanted a shot at PGA tour. It's a disaster. But just to clarify the issue. It is a PGA player who somehow got placed into CC-E, dropped to CC-F and is back in CC-E, still well below their actual ability. That's all. It's a very well known name. If anyone has been playing video game golf long enough will 100% recognize the name right away. Question - how do we know this player is not just playing for fun now and adjusted the way they play to do as such? For example, no longer going for glory with all assists on and just playing TST style? This is what I'm doing and I'm nowhere near where I was in TGC2. It could even be that they fancied a road to glory career where they went to the bottom purposely to them try and work their way back to the top? In any case, I don't see what the issue is with the 1 player doing that. There's now plenty of places up for grabs with promotion particularly now there is the fast track promotions in CC-Am. |
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Post by chilihotkey on Dec 11, 2018 12:45:03 GMT -5
Well playing on PC explains it, its just someone playing with a mouse and refusing to change to a controller Going from PGA -> lower CC isnt really anything unexpected/suspicious in this scenario IMO. If i would have played Q-school this year i would have likely done the same journey(from euro to lower CC), but i gave up well before that. Think my best round with master clubs in 2019 was +21, sure i only played 5-6 rounds in total, but in the closed beta for example i did a similar amount of rounds and shot 57. As Peter said above, it doesnt matter how good you still are in regards to wind calculations etc if you can no longer hit the ball with any kind of consistently. And if this guy cant manage to finish rounds i think hes hurting much more than his fellow CC-F players as im sure he would love to get back to his former standard and enjoy the game again. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 12:58:03 GMT -5
And if this guy cant manage to finish rounds i think hes hurting much more than his fellow CC-F players as im sure he would love to get back to his former standard and enjoy the game again. Ok I realise who this is now. OP you have definitely got the wrong end of the stick here. As Chilli says this guy is probably miserable not being as good as he was due to mouse controls being messed up with the new game, so much so he's not even bothering to complete his rounds. Can't be fun to then have people suggesting foul play on top of everything else! People really need to stop assuming nefarious intentions all the time. If someone plays better they're a cheat, if they play worse they're sandbagging, it's childish. Sometimes people improve, sometimes they get worse - that's literally the idea behind a promotion and demotion system in a competitive tour. |
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Post by ErixonStone on Dec 11, 2018 15:25:29 GMT -5
People really need to stop assuming nefarious intentions all the time. This^ And not just limited to how it relates to an online video golf game. |
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