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Post by itsmb8 on Nov 13, 2018 2:52:46 GMT -5
It’s almost to the point where they need a short swinging / straight shooting league and anyone who is willing can join. The problem with the whole short swing scenario from my point of view is it’s not something I can control. My swing action now is exactly the same as it was in TGC1 and TGC2, now I’m TGC2019 this action occasionally results in this short swing phenomena, it’s not something I do deliberately, or consistently. Sometimes it helps me, aometimes it hinders me. But unless you can do it all the time, I don’t think you can bracket people who suffer the ability to short swing in the same league as straight shooters when admin have said short swinging is not a dq offence. can someone explain to me short swinging?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2018 4:00:13 GMT -5
The problem with the whole short swing scenario from my point of view is it’s not something I can control. My swing action now is exactly the same as it was in TGC1 and TGC2, now I’m TGC2019 this action occasionally results in this short swing phenomena, it’s not something I do deliberately, or consistently. Sometimes it helps me, aometimes it hinders me. But unless you can do it all the time, I don’t think you can bracket people who suffer the ability to short swing in the same league as straight shooters when admin have said short swinging is not a dq offence. can someone explain to me short swinging? Basically an abbreviated, light-touch, 'flicky' stick motion for the downswing, mainly with PS4 players, resulting in the ds line not reaching the top on the in-game feedback display. There's nothing wrong with this intrinsically (the game assumes 100% power regardless of how long your downswing line is), however, from what I understand in some cases - and these are not deliberate I should add - these abbreviated downswing motions also produce extremely tight dispersion, to the extent that their api results look similar to a scripter or third party controller user. So even though it's not deliberate, the results in some cases compromise the level playing field requirement, namely that there should be a minimum level of difficulty for all players in TGCT. From from the sounds of it only about 1% of players are even affected by this so it's not a broad issue across the player-base as some of the discussions might suggest.
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Post by SMIFFYLFC79 on Nov 13, 2018 4:21:40 GMT -5
#Crapster #Onwrongtour #Missedcutnumber2 #Seeyounextweekfor2morerounds
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Post by Tilmots on Nov 13, 2018 5:02:38 GMT -5
-13, -17, -13 et -11 Total -54 Et TOUJOURS ce problème de Swing lent voir très lent (C'est inexplicable !!!!) This Dualshock, it's ... Frites pourries
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Post by fadgewacker on Nov 13, 2018 6:15:05 GMT -5
can someone explain to me short swinging? Basically an abbreviated, light-touch, 'flicky' stick motion for the downswing, mainly with PS4 players, resulting in the ds line not reaching the top on the in-game feedback display. There's nothing wrong with this intrinsically (the game assumes 100% power regardless of how long your downswing line is), however, from what I understand in some cases - and these are not deliberate I should add - these abbreviated downswing motions also produce extremely tight dispersion, to the extent that their api results look similar to a scripter or third party controller user. So even though it's not deliberate, the results in some cases compromise the level playing field requirement, namely that there should be a minimum level of difficulty for all players in TGCT. From from the sounds of it only about 1% of players are even affected by this so it's not a broad issue across the player-base as some of the discussions might suggest. Larry, I’m sorry, but this 1% across the board stuff is total shite. 1% of people swing it so straight it boots them from tournaments. A much higher percentage are enabled to be much, much more accurate than those with full swings due to their acceptable swing plane variance across the “short swing window”. It’s a major bloody problem.
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Post by fadgewacker on Nov 13, 2018 6:20:28 GMT -5
If anybody cares, I’ve just posted a round on twitch that shows me, my legitimate setup and 18 holes with a brand new DS4.
Am I as straight as my 2 wireless DS4’s? No, not all the time, but I’ll get there once I’ve learned the controller. Not too much swearing, but some candid commentary.
Can I short swing it on command? Yes. Am I much more accurate doing that? Yes. Should I swing like that on purpose? Who knows!!!! When do you try not to play the best you can with stock equipment and no scripts??? It beats me.
Take a look. Excuse my onesie, I’m slugging it around at home as I’m off work with monster crabs.
I’ll post 18 with each wireless DS4 I Use later.
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Post by GW_Hope on Nov 13, 2018 6:23:14 GMT -5
#Crapster #Onwrongtour #Missedcutnumber2 #Seeyounextweekfor2morerounds #Imisstgc2
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2018 6:59:08 GMT -5
Basically an abbreviated, light-touch, 'flicky' stick motion for the downswing, mainly with PS4 players, resulting in the ds line not reaching the top on the in-game feedback display. There's nothing wrong with this intrinsically (the game assumes 100% power regardless of how long your downswing line is), however, from what I understand in some cases - and these are not deliberate I should add - these abbreviated downswing motions also produce extremely tight dispersion, to the extent that their api results look similar to a scripter or third party controller user. So even though it's not deliberate, the results in some cases compromise the level playing field requirement, namely that there should be a minimum level of difficulty for all players in TGCT. From from the sounds of it only about 1% of players are even affected by this so it's not a broad issue across the player-base as some of the discussions might suggest. Larry, I’m sorry, but this 1% across the board stuff is total shite. 1% of people swing it so straight it boots them from tournaments. A much higher percentage are enabled to be much, much more accurate than those with full swings due to their acceptable swing plane variance across the “short swing window”. It’s a major bloody problem. Not sure what the disagreement is - by "affected" I was just referring to the supposed 1% who get flagged where short downswings are a factor. As far as I was aware that was the extent of the problem - you're saying there's something else going on with short swinging? Genuine question, this is news to me if there's a continuing issue with it beyond what the admins mentioned during the exhibition events.
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Post by fadgewacker on Nov 13, 2018 7:42:19 GMT -5
Larry, I’m sorry, but this 1% across the board stuff is total shite. 1% of people swing it so straight it boots them from tournaments. A much higher percentage are enabled to be much, much more accurate than those with full swings due to their acceptable swing plane variance across the “short swing window”. It’s a major bloody problem. Not sure what the disagreement is - by "affected" I was just referring to the supposed 1% who get flagged where short downswings are a factor. As far as I was aware that was the extent of the problem - you're saying there's something else going on with short swinging? Genuine question, this is news to me if there's a continuing issue with it beyond what the admins mentioned during the exhibition events. There is mate, but this isn't the place to discuss it as we're well OT to be fair. There's a thread on HB Gameplay section. Can't miss it. That lays it out.
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Post by hippystein on Nov 13, 2018 8:23:58 GMT -5
Just watched your vid fadge and fair play to that onesie dude! Are u on day release? You have just proved that the short swing is a massive advantage. I myself get a full line but i swing left stick with right hand as have always done since tiger as a kid and am very more forceful with my stick movements to what you are! thus ive had only one short swing since game came out and that was cos my thumb slipped off the stick. From what youve put on basically tells me that if you short swing it good, its playing zero deviation and if your wonky it doesnt but yet if your wonky and it short swings its telling api its wonky but the shot is actually flying straighter and not registering fully as swing has not been completed properly. Thus making any approach shot much easier to hit close if executed with a short swing. Ive been swinging solid this year and have seen a lot of streams that hit it considerably worse than i do and due to the nature of the short swing my bad shots are over exaggerated compared to the short swing. I never noticed a short swing in tgc2 but this may explain the edge of the cone repetitveness that so many players had. The same swing but just different feedback was given. If this is a glitch in the game to make it a level playing field across the board hb will have to increase the limit for where the downswing initiates. Thus making the short swings longer and ppls swings more accurate across the board. I noticed a fast fast about 12mins and if id hit f/f id need a machete but yet it flew fairly true with the short swing. Which upon seeing your stream and that onesie( please unsee) leads me to the conclusion that although swinging short isnt cheating at all (unless the pad is rigged in someway) it is a massive advantage over someone like myself who hits a full line. Believe you me the pressure on my putting to keep up in these events so far has been mental crazy and a few missed putts from close have cost me so far especially when im outside ppl on nearly everyhole. Hb really needs to look at the swing length and tweak it so were all singing off the same hymn sheet and quash this issue once and for all. Good luck all for the rest of the season and please dont stream in the onesie again fadge ffs.😂
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Post by fadgewacker on Nov 13, 2018 9:08:44 GMT -5
Just watched your vid fadge and fair play to that onesie dude! Are u on day release?..... ..... ..... Good luck all for the rest of the season and please dont stream in the onesie again fadge ffs.😂 PS - Love the onesie really Fadge. Well, as I'm stuck at home with crabs, and I'm a tight Yorkshireman, I refuse to put the heating on, so onesie it ended up being! I thought it was preferable to you looking down my shorts at my spotty knackers, but I know a request when I hear one... To be fair, I've never felt the need to have to bloody film myself playing golf on the internet to prove a point before, and after today, I'll never do it again, so you're safe but I'm not having people thinking I'm playing with rigged gear. I'll work with admin to see what their suggestion is and move on, but if the 4th controller since 2019 ends up being no good soon, I'll be sacking the game off as a bad job. It was as good way to highlight the short swing thing though. It's a big issue if you ask me... It's an HB issue rather than TGCT one mind you. EDIT - On reflection, I could have chosen a more flattering camera angle
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Post by hippystein on Nov 13, 2018 9:20:35 GMT -5
I agree its a fault in the game that could easily be exploited if that sort of sh%$ floats your boat. Over the years ive had ppl question me and its not nice proving your innocence when in some ppls eyes youve already been nailed to the cross. This is another level tho in the fact that you can hit it all over the shop and still get good results. Hb being so quiet about the matter makes me think that its a @!$# up on there part.
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Post by fadgewacker on Nov 13, 2018 9:22:38 GMT -5
Vids for controller #2 and 3 are also up if anybody cares.
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Post by fadgewacker on Nov 13, 2018 9:29:39 GMT -5
I agree its a fault in the game that could easily be exploited if that sort of sh%$ floats your boat. Over the years ive had ppl question me and its not nice proving your innocence when in some ppls eyes youve already been nailed to the cross. This is another level tho in the fact that you can hit it all over the shop and still get good results. Hb being so quiet about the matter makes me think that its a @!$# up on there part. Yeah it's particularly annoying for me as I've purposefully changed to a longer swing as a shorter one was to precise, only to have load of people (with the potential to be) slapping it about with a shorter swing, and that's ok... Then I get my R3 and R4 with the long swing pulled... Hence my onesie show. Meh...
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Post by flyingj75 on Nov 13, 2018 9:32:20 GMT -5
#Crapster #Onwrongtour #Missedcutnumber2 #Seeyounextweekfor2morerounds What he said.
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