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Post by DoubtfulObelisk on Aug 3, 2019 14:37:53 GMT -5
DoubtfulObelisk I just checked your course. I'm awake from almost 40 hours but i was really curious (and also with a bit of fear ), but now that I played it, for what I saw, I can say your course is absolutely playable. And is also pretty enjoyable. Nothing terrible or unfair, no nightmares or who knows what horrible thing..just a good old link styled course pretty Spartan. I appreciated some hole design (I'm slowly approaching the architecture in golf and, even if I'm still absolutely too ignorant to recognize exactly what it is, I like it when I find a template), but above all I like a lot the variety of the par 3s, especially the short one. Directly on the sea, is a gorgeous hole. Fairways are generous, greens are contoured, sometime severely contoured, but working a bit with wind and slopes, you can always reach the point you want to reach. Maybe is very difficult to do on some hole, but they're a minority and in any case is fair to have some really tough hole on a course. What else...well..I'm just a player, so I could never dare to judge the graphic level of your work. We have a lot of super talented designers that can do this way better than me. I can simply say that honestly i don't know if I like or not the super minimal style of your course, but for sure is not disturbing. I have other tastes, but that's all. There's not professional tour in which you can play only courses you like, after all. Really little to complain about for me. About my round, fearing for something terrible I cowardly played your courses with all default settings but medium wind, using first set of pins and from the tee you said will be used on the tournament (the white). I scored -8, with the usual generous amount of missed putts and only a pair of totally missed approaches. Sadly, I scored an 8 on the second hole, the first par 5. And here comes the bad news. How I feared, the course seems to suffer the glitch that sometimes ruins the courses I should play, making (in this specific case) some fairway and 2 greens in fact too messed up. But while the fairway are manageable, sadly those greens are not. (But I scored the 8 mainly cause I was disappointed and I play the hole really bad, looking for an impossible angle on my approach to minimize the effect of the screwed up green and ending in the water two times), but after this hole I decided to "honor" in every case your course so I played it until the end and I'm happy of my choice. I'll try all the pin positions to see how much the glitch affects them. Maybe, if I realize that I could survive with a bogey on those 2 hole, I'll try to participate anyway, to the tournament. After all, I can't ask so much to my season at this point. We'll see. But this is just my problem..what I can say is simply that your course is a pretty interesting one and can offer for sure an interesting challenge for a tournament. When I'll have a bit of time I'll try also your other courses, but I'm happy to have played this course. Thank you for your effort. Thanks for your response, Ezzino. I'm happy that you found the course reasonably enjoyable. Glad you noticed the par-3 variety and a few of the templates that I included. As for the par 3s, 3 is obviously inspired somewhat by 7 at Pebble Beach, number 8 is basically a mirrored version of 11 at Shinnecock (which is the course that inspired me in the first place), 11 is a wacky take on a Thumbprint green, and 16 was influenced by the famous Himalayas 5th hole at Prestwick. In addition, 17 is quite similar to the original Cape hole (14 at National Golf Links of America), and 18 is a par 4 with a reverse Redan green (I'd suggest using the slope to get close to a couple pins!). Sorry to hear about that glitch. I don't think I've ever run across that before. Is there any way you could capture a video or picture of what you're talking about? I'd be quite interested to see exactly what's going on there. Thanks again for your post. Good luck to you if you decide to play. EDIT: As for my other courses, there are only 2 in TGC19. Doubtful Canyon is pretty quirky, and probably quite a bit harder than Island. I just published a course called Doubtful Hills yesterday, which actually features some trees and planting. I definitely think it's my best course, so I'd recommend it to anyone who likes Doubtful Island (and maybe even if you don't).
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Post by ezzinomilonga on Aug 3, 2019 16:12:20 GMT -5
Sure, I can show you what the "glitch" means..but trust me if I say that it will be awful for you, to see a piece of your course being in some way raped. I call it glitch just cause I don't have any idea of what exactly is, or what can generate it. I fought a month trying everything (and I mean EVERYTHING) to solve it, asking to anyone, even in the hb forum, but no solutions or even just an answer. It seems to be like the consequence of some kind of incompatibility between the game and some hardware on my PC, but the weird thing is that it affects just a little portion of the courses I play. I suppose the proportion could be 1 every 7-8 courses, more or less. Courses that have nothing in common, as far as I know. But I was already forced to quit a good number of tournaments for this reason. In short, when this "glitch" strikes, terrains are messes up. Extremely. Sometimes it looks like an irregular "fracture" on grounds, with different elevation (mainly in fairways) as little stairways or cliffs, while greens looks usually or like little hills, or like the mouth of a volcano (that is what happens in the green of the 2nd hole). Sometime, it affects simply the position of the trees. Anyway..i'll show you tomorrow when I'll restart my PC. It will be clear what I mean (now I need really to sleep a bit, if this fu& ed hot gives me some break). Anyway..changing subject, is my pleasure. And thanks for the explanations. As I said, my knowledge on architecture still don't allows me to fully appreciate your work on this course, but I hope to learn, studying a bit. I'll check the holes that inspired you. It will be a good way to understand and appreciate a bit more your course and work. Have a good Sunday.
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Post by ezzinomilonga on Aug 4, 2019 10:56:00 GMT -5
DoubtfulObelisk as requested, some pics, of holes 2 and 4, just to give you an idea. 1) Hole 2 Fairway imgur.com/7E13hrV2) Hole 2 Fairway detail imgur.com/aqjhvnr3) Hole 2 Green imgur.com/fOCkOjm1) Hole 4 Fairway imgur.com/zifXWlu2) Hole 4 Green imgur.com/2H85bFn3) Hole 4 Green detail imgur.com/9Z5zxMKThe second pin, on the hole 2, is a lot worst than the first. If you miss the cup the ball rolls back by many meters. a 12 is almost automatic. Anyway, i decided to stay with my initial idea, to don't play tournaments when i suspect that something is wrong, cause..who knows? Maybe in some hole a green is too messed up, while it could be a bit easier in some other hole...i think that, after all, the right thing to do is just don't partecipate. And to play only the courses in which i'm sure to play the same course that are playing all the other guys. The only lucky thing, in all this, is that's always pretty easy to recognize when a course suffers this issue or when it works flawlessly. So..good luck to anyone this week. I'll concentrate myself simply on checking courses for my lists and playing the bass. Is not so bad, after all. Good golf
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ffrog
Amateur Golfer
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TGCT Name: Dave Richards
Tour: Challenge Circuit
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Post by ffrog on Aug 4, 2019 12:58:32 GMT -5
DoubtfulObelisk as requested, some pics, of holes 2 and 4, just to give you an idea. Wow, that's really weird. I play on PC, and I've never seen anything like that. So strange that it's not just a graphical glitch, it actually seems to impact the sculpting. Maybe the course file is becoming corrupted as it downloads?
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ffrog
Amateur Golfer
Posts: 247
TGCT Name: Dave Richards
Tour: Challenge Circuit
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Post by ffrog on Aug 4, 2019 13:03:49 GMT -5
I haven't been playing much on the tour recently, I've been busy with work, holidays, and designing. But my holidays for the year are now done, I've published my course and work is slightly less crazy. So I'm back!
Opened up with a -5 in round 1 this week. Actually very happy with that, my tempo was all over the place, so could have been a lot worse. But I'll need to sort out my tempo issues if I'm going to get rid of either of my demotion marks.
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Post by ezzinomilonga on Aug 4, 2019 13:43:46 GMT -5
DoubtfulObelisk as requested, some pics, of holes 2 and 4, just to give you an idea. Wow, that's really weird. I play on PC, and I've never seen anything like that. So strange that it's not just a graphical glitch, it actually seems to impact the sculpting. Maybe the course file is becoming corrupted as it downloads? I was hoping exactly this. And for this reason, among the enormous number of things I tried, I not only reinstalled two (edit : not correct, actually I did it four) times the game, but I also tried to create another steam user, I tweaked every possible setup in my graphic card, I formatted my PC..and every kind of thing (even really weird ) you can imagine. But nothing works. The most absurd thing for me, is that the courses affected are still and always the same. And they are affected always and only in the same way. It will by always a mystery for me..but while some time ago I was desperate for this..now i simply understand that I can be probably thankful cause this absurd and stupid issue let me play actually a lot of courses. What could i do of different?
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Post by DoubtfulObelisk on Aug 4, 2019 19:51:46 GMT -5
DoubtfulObelisk as requested, some pics, of holes 2 and 4, just to give you an idea. 1) Hole 2 Fairway imgur.com/7E13hrV2) Hole 2 Fairway detail imgur.com/aqjhvnr3) Hole 2 Green imgur.com/fOCkOjm1) Hole 4 Fairway imgur.com/zifXWlu2) Hole 4 Green imgur.com/2H85bFn3) Hole 4 Green detail imgur.com/9Z5zxMKThe second pin, on the hole 2, is a lot worst than the first. If you miss the cup the ball rolls back by many meters. a 12 is almost automatic. Anyway, i decided to stay with my initial idea, to don't play tournaments when i suspect that something is wrong, cause..who knows? Maybe in some hole a green is too messed up, while it could be a bit easier in some other hole...i think that, after all, the right thing to do is just don't partecipate. And to play only the courses in which i'm sure to play the same course that are playing all the other guys. The only lucky thing, in all this, is that's always pretty easy to recognize when a course suffers this issue or when it works flawlessly. So..good luck to anyone this week. I'll concentrate myself simply on checking courses for my lists and playing the bass. Is not so bad, after all. Good golf That's how the course is supposed to look, not sure what you're talking about... All joking aside, that really sucks. What a weird glitch. A shame that you can't compete this week, but I totally understand; I wouldn't play either if the course looked like that. Good luck the rest of the season.
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Post by cephyn on Aug 4, 2019 20:58:34 GMT -5
168th out of 171 this week and lost all my promo marks. I mean the good news is I had a kid this week, mom and baby are healthy. But it completely torpedoed my season. Somehow Smedley kept his game up when he had a kid!!!
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Post by ezzinomilonga on Aug 4, 2019 21:06:54 GMT -5
DoubtfulObelisk thank you. Honestly i'm pretty sad every time I'm forced to quit a tourney. I'm also in a good moment and the challenge offered by your course seems to be really near to the one offered by Royal Portrush a pair of weeks ago. And, until now, it stays the toughest and in some way funniest challenge I encountered on this tour. 4 rounds in which if you lose your concentration or your swing, then you're lost. And there's no mercy. I have not checked the conditions for the tournament, but I'm pretty sure that if the wind blows, your course should be a real beast. Anyway, if your course should be criticized too much, don't take it personally. Is not the everyone's cup of tea. But, except for that stupid issue, as far as I can see and for the little I can understand, your course is simply a different looking, absolutely fair and tough one. You know? I still don't know if I like him or not, to be honest, but I appreciate his different style. And differences are what makes everything a bit better. You can be proud of your work. Good luck for your future works (I'll try both of your others and I'll say what I see ) and good golf.
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ffrog
Amateur Golfer
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TGCT Name: Dave Richards
Tour: Challenge Circuit
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Post by ffrog on Aug 5, 2019 10:56:55 GMT -5
168th out of 171 this week and lost all my promo marks. I mean the good news is I had a kid this week, mom and baby are healthy. But it completely torpedoed my season. Somehow Smedley kept his game up when he had a kid!!! Congratulations! Now, if you’re playing with the controller in one hand and changing a nappy with the other, I might stand a chance of scoring better than you 😀
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Post by moneyman273 on Aug 5, 2019 13:44:01 GMT -5
DoubtfulObelisk as requested, some pics, of holes 2 and 4, just to give you an idea. 1) Hole 2 Fairway imgur.com/7E13hrV2) Hole 2 Fairway detail imgur.com/aqjhvnr3) Hole 2 Green imgur.com/fOCkOjm1) Hole 4 Fairway imgur.com/zifXWlu2) Hole 4 Green imgur.com/2H85bFn3) Hole 4 Green detail imgur.com/9Z5zxMKThe second pin, on the hole 2, is a lot worst than the first. If you miss the cup the ball rolls back by many meters. a 12 is almost automatic. Anyway, i decided to stay with my initial idea, to don't play tournaments when i suspect that something is wrong, cause..who knows? Maybe in some hole a green is too messed up, while it could be a bit easier in some other hole...i think that, after all, the right thing to do is just don't partecipate. And to play only the courses in which i'm sure to play the same course that are playing all the other guys. The only lucky thing, in all this, is that's always pretty easy to recognize when a course suffers this issue or when it works flawlessly. So..good luck to anyone this week. I'll concentrate myself simply on checking courses for my lists and playing the bass. Is not so bad, after all. Good golf That's how the course is supposed to look, not sure what you're talking about... All joking aside, that really sucks. What a weird glitch. A shame that you can't compete this week, but I totally understand; I wouldn't play either if the course looked like that. Good luck the rest of the season. Check the HB forum bug report. This same type of thing occurred for a few users on PC where they were uploading pictures like this that were completely outrageous yet was exactly what the PC user was seeing. Nothing to do with the course designer and these outrageous things aren't occurring on console. Absolutely amazing and weird to see this! As per HB and their response to bug reports, they either ignored it or had no way to fix it.
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Post by ezzinomilonga on Aug 5, 2019 14:39:25 GMT -5
moneyman273 Thank you for the advice but there's already a my thread in that section of the hb forum full of pics and in which I well explained everything. And also what I tried to solve the issue. The only thing i obtained doing this, had been a pair of answer by Keith who said that he was stunned, never seen something like bla bla bla, he should ask immediately to developers of the game for bla bla. All this happened when we played at Tantallon Castle. Never an answer. And now i honestly expect exactly nothing, from hb. In fact i don't check that thread by more than a month. And there is no reason to check it, i could bet on it. I can just consider myself lucky to play at least a lot of courses flawlessly. The only sad thing is that I'm absolutely sure that i can't be the only one with this issue, cause my PC is not an old one, at all...and is also a pretty common one.
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Post by moneyman273 on Aug 5, 2019 14:45:58 GMT -5
moneyman273 Thank you for the advice but there's already a my thread in that section of the hb forum full of pics and in which I well explained everything. And also what I tried to solve the issue. The only thing i obtained doing this, had been a pair of answer by Keith who said that he was stunned, never seen something like bla bla bla, he should ask immediately to developers of the game for bla bla. All this happened when we played at Tantallon Castle. Never an answer. And now i honestly expect exactly nothing, from hb. In fact i don't check that thread by more than a month. And there is no reason to check it, i could bet on it. I can just consider myself lucky to play at least a lot of courses flawlessly. The only sad thing is that I'm absolutely sure that i can't be the only one with this issue, cause my PC is not an old one, at all...and is also a pretty common one. This made me chuckle
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ffrog
Amateur Golfer
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TGCT Name: Dave Richards
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Post by ffrog on Aug 8, 2019 13:41:21 GMT -5
Just finished my rounds for the week. I've got a couple of demotion marks at the moment, so my aim is to get top 100 and clear one of them. After the first 3 rounds of -5, -4, -5 I wasn't too hopeful - but on the softer greens of R4 I managed to score -10, which gives -24 for the week. I'm hoping that final round is enough to sneak me into the top 100... I'll be watching the leaderboards carefully!
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Post by wellsa27 on Aug 11, 2019 7:13:25 GMT -5
Cracked on with this weeks course today, and boy glad I did.
R1 -10 R2 -7 R3 -11 R4 -9
Finished -37 overall, pretty much had constant P/P on masters (Xbox) throughout.
Really happy with my score, though I did leave A LOT of putts out there, so that's my only disappointment.
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