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Post by LKeet6 on Jun 13, 2019 15:46:15 GMT -5
No weirder than posting a video of a dying fish to laugh at.
Cherry picking the foreign sounding names and identifying them as the "other" not worthy of consideration or empathy. No idea how anyone could deem that to be casual racism... Why do we keep feeding this bigoted troll? He knows we can't/won't report because then mods will lock the thread. If he wants to out himself as racist, so be it... It makes him feel good, but it also makes me feel good. Ignorant? Check? Racist? Check? Nothing of any importance of relevance to say? Check. Desperate for attention by ANY means necessary? Check. We might have to put up with seeing stuff we hate IRL, but it's also good to have your suspicions confirmed.
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Post by mcbogga on Jun 14, 2019 4:26:47 GMT -5
Why do we keep feeding this bigoted troll? He knows we can't/won't report because then mods will lock the thread. If he wants to out himself as racist, so be it... It makes him feel good, but it also makes me feel good. Ignorant? Check? Racist? Check? Nothing of any importance of relevance to say? Check. Desperate for attention by ANY means necessary? Check. We might have to put up with seeing stuff we hate IRL, but it's also good to have your suspicions confirmed. Don’t attribute to racism what can be explained by classism. The racist card is way overplayed nowadays.
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Post by LKeet6 on Jun 14, 2019 5:55:46 GMT -5
He knows we can't/won't report because then mods will lock the thread. If he wants to out himself as racist, so be it... It makes him feel good, but it also makes me feel good. Ignorant? Check? Racist? Check? Nothing of any importance of relevance to say? Check. Desperate for attention by ANY means necessary? Check. We might have to put up with seeing stuff we hate IRL, but it's also good to have your suspicions confirmed. Don’t attribute to racism what can be explained by classism. The racist card is way overplayed nowadays.
Completey agree about class; it's a point i ALWAYS make.
completely DISAGREE about what his intent was. Completely stand by my comment, for this particular person and comment...
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Post by cliffs on Jun 14, 2019 5:56:24 GMT -5
He knows we can't/won't report because then mods will lock the thread. If he wants to out himself as racist, so be it... It makes him feel good, but it also makes me feel good. Ignorant? Check? Racist? Check? Nothing of any importance of relevance to say? Check. Desperate for attention by ANY means necessary? Check. We might have to put up with seeing stuff we hate IRL, but it's also good to have your suspicions confirmed. Don’t attribute to racism what can be explained by classism. The racist card is way overplayed nowadays. So "foreign" sounding names being used in the context it was used is now classism not bigotry/racism? Little Johnny and Susan are going to be mad they live in poverty but aren't important enough to have their social status revealed. If you (or anyone else) had written what was written, we may have reacted in a different way but once a troll always a troll and no matter how it gets spun, what was said was said and the author has to live with the fallout.
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Post by mcbogga on Jun 14, 2019 6:11:23 GMT -5
Don’t attribute to racism what can be explained by classism. The racist card is way overplayed nowadays. So "foreign" sounding names being used in the context it was used is now classism not bigotry/racism? Little Johnny and Susan are going to be mad they live in poverty but aren't important enough to have their social status revealed. If you (or anyone else) had written what was written, we may have reacted in a different way but once a troll always a troll and no matter how it gets spun, what was said was said and the author has to live with the fallout. As he pointed out - those are not “foreign sounding names”. Those are American lower class names. I challenge you to find a “DeJanquino” outside of the US.... Those names are of course indicative of ethnicity, but that can just as well be because those ethnicities are over-represented among the group he wanted to portray. He may just as well have used trailer park white trash names - but maybe that is not what lower class looks like where he lives... Saying people should not have free school lunch because they are black, Hispanic or a mix is racist. Saying that if they cannot pay for the lunch they should not get it for free is not rasist, and that is what seems to have been the point here. Now, this is of course no proof that the poster is not racist, he may or may not be. All I’m saying is that such conclusions cannot be drawn from that post. Fair point on earlier post history, but have there been any racism there? Most likely not.
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Post by B.Smooth13 on Jun 14, 2019 6:54:39 GMT -5
We can't even pass a law that says: if a foreign government breaks an existing federal elections law by offering "dirt" on a candidate to their opponent (a thing of "value"), and the opposing candidate who is offered the "thing of value" and is therefore a witness to the illegal act - i.e., becomes aware of a foreign adversary breaking US federal law and trying to influence our elections - then that candidate/campaign must notify law enforcement of the breaking of the law, notably the FBI. Nope, that makes entirely too much sense for the GOP and McConnell, but I guess he has a whole different set of worries on his hands given the outwardly obvious corruption that his wife is finally being called out on. Honestly, that dude is just the worst...
It should not be this hard.
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Post by cliffs on Jun 14, 2019 8:48:03 GMT -5
I challenge you to find a “DeJanquino” INside of the US....
I'm not going to go off topic about a poster and his trolling. So I agree to disagree with you. Opinions, ya know.
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Post by cliffs on Jun 14, 2019 8:49:25 GMT -5
We can't even pass a law that says: if a foreign government breaks an existing federal elections law by offering "dirt" on a candidate to their opponent (a thing of "value"), and the opposing candidate who is offered the "thing of value" and is therefore a witness to the illegal act - i.e., becomes aware of a foreign adversary breaking US federal law and trying to influence our elections - then that candidate/campaign must notify law enforcement of the breaking of the law, notably the FBI. Nope, that makes entirely too much sense for the GOP and McConnell, but I guess he has a whole different set of worries on his hands given the outwardly obvious corruption that his wife is finally being called out on. Honestly, that dude is just the worst... It should not be this hard. How about being a president that has been under investigation for this sh%$, saying that he probably wouldn't tell the FBI about any contacts.
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Post by mcbogga on Jun 14, 2019 11:34:38 GMT -5
I challenge you to find a “DeJanquino” INside of the US.... I'm not going to go off topic about a poster and his trolling. So I agree to disagree with you. Opinions, ya know. Alright. Back to Trump. But do I get a half point for the below google effort? ;-)
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Post by joegolferg on Jun 14, 2019 12:04:29 GMT -5
In the memory of a man who died for the freedom of others.
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Post by cliffs on Jun 14, 2019 15:43:12 GMT -5
I challenge you to find a “DeJanquino” INside of the US.... I'm not going to go off topic about a poster and his trolling. So I agree to disagree with you. Opinions, ya know. Alright. Back to Trump. But do I get a half point for the below google effort? ;-) No brownie points at all...different name and just for the record, your words - As he pointed out - those are not “foreign sounding names”. Those are American lower class names. Quino is as Spanish as it comes.
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Post by paulus on Jun 14, 2019 16:33:05 GMT -5
The requested half point from me, for the effort 👍 Let it go boys, we have bigger fish heads to fry...
Sarah Huckabee’s “moving on” went pretty quietly yesterday. Given she headed the fewest press briefings in White House history, not especially surprising.
Zero public accountability appears to be the end goal - you know the sort of thing dictators go for....
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Post by cliffs on Jun 15, 2019 6:38:54 GMT -5
With Sarah stepping down why do they need a press secretary...there are no briefings so what would the job entail except defending the president's lies on talk shows?
I like the story of Hannity and Ingrams doing a weekly press conference on air at Fox, talk about state run tv.
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Post by LKeet6 on Jun 16, 2019 7:57:27 GMT -5
This is ALL well worth a watch, but to revisit our past debates on socialism/cuba, skip to 49:45
The bit where he says he we can't have a grown up conversation about cuba/socialism and the childish dismission of it is SO on the money.
This guy has become an absolute favourite in recent years. If you want someone anti-establishment, who's not part of the political elite and all that, you could choose trump, or you could choose this guy; tough choice...
His oxford union lecture, about how black achievements through history (not recent history, talking 500-2000 years back) are whitewashed is amazing! so eye-opening.
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Post by cliffs on Jun 16, 2019 10:27:48 GMT -5
Reason for throwing up on a Sunday morn. His highney has tweeted!!
Donald J. Trump
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@realdonaldtrump
The Trump Economy is setting records, and has a long way up to go....However, if anyone but me takes over in 2020 (I know the competition very well), there will be a Market Crash the likes of which has not been seen before! KEEP AMERICA GREAT
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