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Post by KenTremendous on Jan 9, 2017 11:15:18 GMT -5
Fair or foul?
Having just played my first round on Web this week, some of the ghosts i played with were often using the neighbouring fairway, three or four times at least i think.
Now i can see why, it can offer wider landing spots and easier, shorter approaches but i didnt follow their lead, just wouldnt be done in real life (purposely) so wouldnt feel right for me to do it in this game.
Whats the general thoughts on it?
I wouldnt call it cheating outright (maybe you would? As its not playing the hole as intended at all) but to me, yeah, its just not cricket.
Thoughts?
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Post by staypuft39 on Jan 9, 2017 11:27:29 GMT -5
Fair or foul? Having just played my first round on Web this week, some of the ghosts i played with were often using the neighbouring fairway, three or four times at least i think. Now i can see why, it can offer wider landing spots and easier, shorter approaches but i didnt follow their lead, just wouldnt be done in real life (purposely) so wouldnt feel right for me to do it in this game. Whats the general thoughts on it? I wouldnt call it cheating outright (maybe you would? As its not playing the hole as intended at all) but to me, yeah, its just not cricket. Thoughts? I think good design can put a stop to most of those types of shots, but some courses have a few that slip through and offer an advantage. Now, that said, a course like St Andrews often has players swinging into other fairways to get a better angle depending on wind or tees, so it's not unheard of in pro tourneys. My take is, in tournaments, anything is fair game within the rules. Especially when it comes to playing the course you are given. In a perfect world, designers would be on the lookout for things like that, as it's their course's experience being hurt by shortcuts.
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Post by andybarrell on Jan 9, 2017 11:34:37 GMT -5
unless neighbouring fairways are designated O/B from tee then it is fine, sometimes it is just the best route to the hole, and the aim of the game is to get the little round thing into the hole in as fewer strokes as possible
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Post by KenTremendous on Jan 9, 2017 11:34:59 GMT -5
Take all those points entirely, my response is that its as i said, you are not playing the hole as the designer intended.
Against the rules? Strictly no. Does it feel right to me? No.
That said, plenty probably think its fine, its an interesting discussion.
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Post by misternic on Jan 9, 2017 11:37:13 GMT -5
I say if it makes more sense to use the other fairway, then do so. You wont change the behavior of others and in taking a "moral" stance you are hindering your performance. It is the designers job to keep this from happening, and I know I work to try and keep it from being an option whenever possible. I agree with your thinking, but it is one of the quirks of electronic golf sometimes.
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Post by rjwils30 on Jan 9, 2017 12:08:25 GMT -5
I actually like designing courses that allow for the use of other fairways. As said above St. Andrews is meant to be played that way. By widening the playing angles it introduces a huge amount of strategy and creativity to the game. The key from a design standpoint is to make the use of the other fairway not the best route every time depending on wind and pin placement. If the player uses the other fairway every time then it's a design fail.
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Post by Airik3333 on Jan 9, 2017 12:31:46 GMT -5
I see no issue with it at all.. You see a better path to the hole down another fairway.. Go for it.. I've done that a few times and got down to the ball and said to myself, that wasn't the best shot here.. LOL..
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Post by KenTremendous on Jan 9, 2017 13:06:01 GMT -5
Reading these replies is making me reconsider my view actually, perhaps ill just say to hell with any supposed morals, just do it, as you say, some courses are even designed that way, so yeah, maybe i am getting looking at it too deeply
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Post by joegolferg on Jan 9, 2017 13:58:53 GMT -5
Only designers with poor routing skills allow this to happen.
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Post by Airik3333 on Jan 9, 2017 19:38:35 GMT -5
Only designers with poor routing skills allow this to happen. Designers with really good routing skills leave you a small tee box to aim for surrounded by heavy rough
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Post by Spyral on Jan 11, 2017 23:52:31 GMT -5
I noticed the same thing as I was in Web for the first time this week as well.
However, I just went ahead and followed the ghosts. Anything to give me a shot at getting a Web card!
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Post by Brighttail on Jan 15, 2017 19:34:16 GMT -5
There is no rule saying you can't do this. It is simply a 'flaw' in the design of the course. Rangers and even the players will often find these 'alternative routes" and sometimes the admin will make changes. For example Hole #2 on Magnolia allowed people to fire a ball down the 8th fairway. In the end the designer put a tree to discourage this.
Bottom line is that many people do it. Last week the course had firm greens and some holes were more accessible if you drove into another fairway. The approach shot was longer but you had more green to work with.
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Post by Generic_Casual on Jan 17, 2017 8:54:01 GMT -5
What's a fairway?
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Post by c6vette2010 on Jan 26, 2017 17:10:50 GMT -5
Just wondering if OB is clearly indicated on the overhead view?
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Post by AFCTUJacko on Jan 26, 2017 17:36:58 GMT -5
Just wondering if OB is clearly indicated on the overhead view? Yep. It's Bright Red
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