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Post by SweetTeeBag on Dec 30, 2016 18:15:34 GMT -5
So is he ever going to allowed back? I understand he gets a bit frustrated but a perma-ban from the forums? Really? One of the better players we have on tour not being able to talk about his weekly rounds. We have some really potty mouths on here and they have got banned for a few days but are allowed to come back. IMO the way he is being treated is a bit harsh and I honestly think some leniency should be allowed. Just my thoughts
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Post by staypuft39 on Dec 30, 2016 18:45:03 GMT -5
Maybe I'm mistaken but didn't he ask for a perma-ban, numerous times? At some point, I'm sure, the admins just granted the wish and moved on.
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Post by Crazycanuck1985 on Dec 30, 2016 19:57:53 GMT -5
Matt is correct. He asked multiple times to be banned and it was done. I know he wants back in now, but dealing with the rage, the quitting, etc became a real headache for admins and everyone subjected to reading his posts. He had multiple chances and blew all of them. I don't have a say in the matter, but I think this is for the best that he stay off the forums indefinitely.
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Post by SweetTeeBag on Dec 30, 2016 21:21:11 GMT -5
Matt is correct. He asked multiple times to be banned and it was done. I know he wants back in now, but dealing with the rage, the quitting, etc became a real headache for admins and everyone subjected to reading his posts. He had multiple chances and blew all of them. I don't have a say in the matter, but I think this is for the best that he stay off the forums indefinitely. I've quit multiple times and came back. I have even posted as such. Heck, even you have said you were quitting Andre and here you are.
I know I get frustrated at times as well. I think his mistake was asking to get removed and he was. The best bet for Dan was to just take a break like many of us have and come back refreshed. Dan is a nice guy and he lets his emotions get the best of him. I
I have been talking with him lately and he understands. He really does. After all it is just a game. I don't stick my neck out for most people but like I said hopefully the admins will come up with some sort of agreement and maybe the start is him only being able to post on his tourney rounds. And don't tell me he will b%& and moan about those sometimes because we also have some poor results as I think we all do that. Even Sweeney when he shoots -65
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Post by reebdoog on Dec 31, 2016 1:00:43 GMT -5
if we can perma-ban him from the shoutbox that would be enough for me...
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Post by rod81simo on Dec 31, 2016 1:08:24 GMT -5
if we can perma-ban him from the shoutbox that would be enough for me... Lol!!! Haha He means well undoubtedly and he's a good guy but he can get himself down and out, be it thru bad tourneys or even practice rounds which he then vented profusely in the shoutbox. Definately a tough call but maybe banning from shoutbox posts is a start
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Post by jtcurrent on Dec 31, 2016 9:07:09 GMT -5
I'm still trying to figure out why someone moaning about his own play would bother anyone else? Isn't not reading his posts an option we all have? I don't and so he's perfectly charming if you ask me.
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Post by mde8965 on Dec 31, 2016 9:13:55 GMT -5
Hey all. I don't know Dan personally. But I am on his friend list on Steam. LOL. If Dan really wants back in I hope the power s that be will consider it. We need more characters around here. Things have grown a bit stagnant on the forums recently. Don't take that to mean I am relishing in his angst when he is going through his "episodes" but it does add an element of drama that draws folks in.
That said I'm not privy to if he has been a challenge to the admins with the "I want in". "I'm leaving" "I want in" "I'm leaving" stuff. If so then I see that side of it too.
But if the ban is a "tough love" thing imposed my admins or by Dan's request" to rehabilitate his rage issues and he feels he is ready to handle the ups and downs of this game, then I enjoyed reading some of his posts.
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Post by smurfblade88 on Dec 31, 2016 9:58:57 GMT -5
Dan is a well meaning lad but this game is not healthy for him and his issues.
From an admin point of view i think they hav taken the correct action as his "episodes" on here and specifically on the shout box which is the 1st thing ppl see when comin on the forums is not good for TGCT and for Dan himself.
If i was in charge i wudn want new ppl comin on and the 1st thing they see is someone havin a mental breakdown or mentioning suicide. Thats not good for anyone.
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Post by reebdoog on Dec 31, 2016 10:17:42 GMT -5
If i was in charge i wudn want new ppl comin on and the 1st thing they see is someone havin a mental breakdown or mentioning suicide. Thats not good for anyone. I know I've left the site more than once because of that.
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Post by Moe Slorkman on Dec 31, 2016 11:04:42 GMT -5
Personally from the point of view of a fellow member with mental issues who can on occasions fly off the handle I think a permanent ban is way over the top.
Yes i understand Dan's posts can be hard to read and yes he goes beyond but its no far from locking your problem child in the attic when the neighbours come to visit.
By all means suspend for a day then let back the 2 days 3,4 etc. Boom Boom threatened legal action amongst other things and didn't get a forum ban??? Another Canadian comes on to the forum regularly and publicly say's he's here to piss someone off and has never been banned.
I won't speak about Dan as I don't know his head nor am I qualified to speak on his behalf.
So from my point of view and knowing my head if I was banned permanently from something that deep down I love (this forum) In real life I would be a nightmare and physical damage would be done to objects in my home and it would drive me potentially to a total breakdown and/or panic attack.
I don't know the full story I don't know Dan's mindset
I am just saying my bit. now ill go back into my box
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2016 11:30:56 GMT -5
Hey all. I don't know Dan personally. But I am on his friend list on Steam. LOL. If Dan really wants back in I hope the power s that be will consider it. We need more characters around here. Things have grown a bit stagnant on the forums recently. Don't take that to mean I am relishing in his angst when he is going through his "episodes" but it does add an element of drama that draws folks in. That said I'm not privy to if he has been a challenge to the admins with the "I want in". "I'm leaving" "I want in" "I'm leaving" stuff. If so then I see that side of it too. But if the ban is a "tough love" thing imposed my admins or by Dan's request" to rehabilitate his rage issues and he feels he is ready to handle the ups and downs of this game, then I enjoyed reading some of his posts. Michael, if you need some excitement, I can bring Jerry out of the closet.
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Post by smurfblade88 on Dec 31, 2016 11:33:32 GMT -5
Personally from the point of view of a fellow member with mental issues who can on occasions fly off the handle I think a permanent ban is way over the top. Yes i understand Dan's posts can be hard to read and yes he goes beyond but its no far from locking your problem child in the attic when the neighbours come to visit. By all means suspend for a day then let back the 2 days 3,4 etc. Boom Boom threatened legal action amongst other things and didn't get a forum ban??? Another Canadian comes on to the forum regularly and publicly say's he's here to piss someone off and has never been banned. I won't speak about Dan as I don't know his head nor am I qualified to speak on his behalf. So from my point of view and knowing my head if I was banned permanently from something that deep down I love (this forum) In real life I would be a nightmare and physical damage would be done to objects in my home and it would drive me potentially to a total breakdown and/or panic attack. I don't know the full story I don't know Dan's mindset I am just saying my bit. now ill go back into my box I respectfully disagree. From what i can see.. -Dan is no child of TGCT admin. -Dan has had many big issues with TGCT admin in the past. -This is not a mental health clinic. -As we found out a few months back they are entitled to run it any way they want. They owe us nothing. Proffesional help is whats needed, not TGCTours.
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Post by Brighttail on Dec 31, 2016 11:57:43 GMT -5
The problem is there comes a time where the line has to be drawn. How many times do you forgive? Two, three, five, ten? Dan's had a LOT of chances already. I counted Dan as a friend from long ago, I put up with his rage quitting rounds while we practiced together and all the ranting that went with it for over 18 months. Each time he'd apologize and come back and do it again. In the end I gave up and that is on a personal level.
From an administration level, it is clear Dan has some rage issues. It is clear that there have been many people (including myself) who have suggested a break, meditation, medication and professional help. He laughs it all off, saying he knows he has issues but in the end has done nothing to improve his situation. He rants, quits, gets bored/lonely, begs to come back and then does it all over again and again and again and again. He has asked to be banned on multiple occasions and has begged to come back. It isn't a healthy cycle and sadly his being on the boards does very little in a positive manner for the community.
You are right Burton, you, Crazy even myself has taken time off and had a few woeful/pissed off rants, but that all pales in comparison to Daniel.
The Admin here is very forgiving, but even they have their limits. Even they realize that there is a line which once crossed cannot be undone. The admin has given him many chances and my guess is he has used them all up. Personally I think he is lucky to be able to play on the tour considering the headache he has been to the Admin, so not being able to post seems a reasonable compromise to me. If the Admin were to allow him back on the boards and he were to go off again, I'd probably say he'd lose the ability to play in the tournies as well, so this may be for the best as is.
I really hold no ill will towards, Dan. I really do wish him the best and hope he finds happiness in his life, but until he seeks the help I feel he needs, I have to ignore his friends requests as _I_ do not wish to surround myself with people cause that type of drama. I simply don't need it and I believe the Admins don't need/want it either.
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Post by Airik3333 on Dec 31, 2016 11:57:49 GMT -5
He shot a 163 in the 4th round on the True Sim Tour a month ago... The dude is one of the best players here and that round was surely a big time meltdown - rage quit - controller tossing contest - on his part.. Who would take the time to finish that ?? I'm surprised he didn't leave his ball 2 feet from the hole on 18 and drop the mic
Daniel Waring +83 63 73 68 163 367 $37,200 Scorecards
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