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Post by settlerofcatan on Jul 27, 2015 13:59:31 GMT -5
Any tips on managing winds blowing "diagonal"? (like "/" or "\" ) It's a guessing game - basically using the angles to predict the % of distance to take off or add on. For instance, if a wind is in my face 10mph, I typically take off 125% of that (i.e., 12.5 yards, depending on loft of club). However, if the wind is at a 45* angle, I just take half of that, so I'd account for 6-ish yards shorter and also aim slightly into the wind to account for ball movement as well. This way, I have a "base" number to look at if the wind is 100% in my face, and I take a percentage of that based on the angle of the wind. Nate |
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Post by canthitstraight on Aug 10, 2015 2:02:40 GMT -5
Any tips on managing winds blowing "diagonal"? (like "/" or "\" ) It's a guessing game - basically using the angles to predict the % of distance to take off or add on. For instance, if a wind is in my face 10mph, I typically take off 125% of that (i.e., 12.5 yards, depending on loft of club). However, if the wind is at a 45* angle, I just take half of that, so I'd account for 6-ish yards shorter and also aim slightly into the wind to account for ball movement as well. This way, I have a "base" number to look at if the wind is 100% in my face, and I take a percentage of that based on the angle of the wind. Nate You could always use a little trigonometry. If you're facing north and the wind is blowing due north east at 10 mph, you can treat the wind as the hypotenuse of an isosceles right triangle with the length of 10 units. By the ratios inherent to 45-45-90 triangles, the leg lengths should be the length of the hypotenuse of the triangle divided by rad 2. This gives you about 7.1 mph Then you can apply whatever rules you apply to winds for 1) a wind travelling 7 mph north and 2) a wind travelling 7 mph east. If the wind was instead travelling instead at just 20 degrees east of north, you can construct a 20-70-90 triangle to figure out your wind values. Probably not worth the trouble trying to figure it out with a calculator, (with sines and cosines) so you can just take a guesstimate of 1) a wind travelling 9 mph north and 2) a wind travelling 3 mph east. Of course from my experience, if I actually take the time to try to figure all this out on top of all the other calculations, the wind will have changed on me by the time I swing. |
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Post by NCFCRulz on Aug 10, 2015 3:59:44 GMT -5
It's a guessing game - basically using the angles to predict the % of distance to take off or add on. For instance, if a wind is in my face 10mph, I typically take off 125% of that (i.e., 12.5 yards, depending on loft of club). However, if the wind is at a 45* angle, I just take half of that, so I'd account for 6-ish yards shorter and also aim slightly into the wind to account for ball movement as well. This way, I have a "base" number to look at if the wind is 100% in my face, and I take a percentage of that based on the angle of the wind. Nate You could always use a little trigonometry. If you're facing north and the wind is blowing due north east at 10 mph, you can treat the wind as the hypotenuse of an isosceles right triangle with the length of 10 units. By the ratios inherent to 45-45-90 triangles, the leg lengths should be the length of the hypotenuse of the triangle divided by rad 2. This gives you about 7.1 mph Then you can apply whatever rules you apply to winds for 1) a wind travelling 7 mph north and 2) a wind travelling 7 mph east. If the wind was instead travelling instead at just 20 degrees east of north, you can construct a 20-70-90 triangle to figure out your wind values. Probably not worth the trouble trying to figure it out with a calculator, (with sines and cosines) so you can just take a guesstimate of 1) a wind travelling 9 mph north and 2) a wind travelling 3 mph east. Of course from my experience, if I actually take the time to try to figure all this out on top of all the other calculations, the wind will have changed on me by the time I swing. brings back memories of my mathematics degree  Most people if the wind is 10mph blowing NE exactly do make the mistake of taking half of what they would normally take however as illustrated above this is fundamentally and mathematically incorrect. Will always work out to around 65% or so give or take |
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Post by burdinho on Aug 24, 2015 10:19:33 GMT -5
Great tips here, appreciate. Problem iam having is swinging consistently at 100% with ps4 controller. You can get the maths perfect but if you hit it 88% then good luck. Got to push the stick a bit harder forward consistent iam guessing. Practice practice practice. thats exactly the problem I have. I too often only hit with 85-90% and its very frustrating. I push forward harder on the left stick, and I introduce a massive hook... |
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Post by HeMan1202 on Aug 24, 2015 10:37:34 GMT -5
Great tips here, appreciate. Problem iam having is swinging consistently at 100% with ps4 controller. You can get the maths perfect but if you hit it 88% then good luck. Got to push the stick a bit harder forward consistent iam guessing. Practice practice practice. thats exactly the problem I have. I too often only hit with 85-90% and its very frustrating. I push forward harder on the left stick, and I introduce a massive hook... I do not play on PS4 so I have no idea, but it is not necessarily how hard but how fast. I find that a fast flick gets 100% every time. Also, with a flick, you lessen the chance of a mishit (granted that you can flick straight up). |
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Post by burdinho on Aug 24, 2015 10:38:07 GMT -5
from looking at the videos of very good players, it's interesting how draw/fade is used to counter the effects of strong winds, rather than just compensating by aiming to the left/right as required
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 10:40:26 GMT -5
from looking at the videos of very good players, it's interesting how draw/fade is used to counter the effects of strong winds, rather than just compensating by aiming to the left/right as required Depending on the shot (a drive off the tee or an approach to the green) and the firmness of the greens, I often use a half draw/fade approach and move the aiming circle what I think is half the distance. Into headwinds this exaggerates the effects of the wind, so more distance is needed. Its not an exact science, to be sure. |
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Post by settlerofcatan on Aug 24, 2015 11:01:32 GMT -5
from looking at the videos of very good players, it's interesting how draw/fade is used to counter the effects of strong winds, rather than just compensating by aiming to the left/right as required Depending on the shot (a drive off the tee or an approach to the green) and the firmness of the greens, I often use a half draw/fade approach and move the aiming circle what I think is half the distance. Into headwinds this exaggerates the effects of the wind, so more distance is needed. Its not an exact science, to be sure. Agreed on this. The last month I've been doing very little aiming left/right and instead have been using almost entirely draw/fade. I do left/right compensation when winds get above 15mph from the side, as I've found that takes more than one grid square of fade/draw to correct. On the driver I use the combination if the wind is really heavy and I have a small target to hit. Been working all right so far! Definitely takes a lot of experimentation to get right. Nate |
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Post by dorksirjur on Sept 29, 2015 13:10:24 GMT -5
Many many thanks for these tips and tricks! Following this and getting some info from Scruffy has really ramped up my game in the past day, I wasn't even using the aim thingy for putting, it helps immensely.
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Post by billybudd0623 on Sept 29, 2015 14:08:44 GMT -5
Sorry if this has been discussed. Say you have a 6 or 7 yd chip shot with a level lie. Cross wind of say 8 yds. How many, if any, clicks do you adjust for the wind?
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Post by marino313131 on Sept 29, 2015 14:26:23 GMT -5
I have found that I do better by playing my rounds based more off of feel than calculations. Don't think that my approach is the norm but for instance I don't even look at the distance on my putts now. It's all feel & my scores have improved since I made the change
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Post by dorksirjur on Sept 29, 2015 14:38:31 GMT -5
I have found that I do better by playing my rounds based more off of feel than calculations. Don't think that my approach is the norm but for instance I don't even look at the distance on my putts now. It's all feel & my scores have improved since I made the change I've been playing like that for about two months marino, then I spent all last night working out the calculations etc and hit my first ever -16 today! I still get the calculations wrong from time to time and add when I should subtract so I end up 40 yards past the green, but I'm getting there. |
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Post by onehotelfoxtrot on Oct 15, 2015 18:22:21 GMT -5
Thank you so much for this guide!! Made me 100 x better than I was!!!!!!!  |
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Post by blackaces13 on Oct 15, 2015 19:45:45 GMT -5
This game is pure math. Feel be damned.
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Post by dorksirjur on Oct 15, 2015 19:52:31 GMT -5
I still use feel for slopes on putting, can't work out math on those.
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