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Post by anquila1978 on Dec 18, 2014 8:47:05 GMT -5
Maybe Aces has decided not to play in this tour due other reasons, perhaps he has the same feeling as a few on the ps4 and this thread on HB has not exactly helped. www.hb-studios.com/forum/index.php?topic=8132.0Or if say he was to read this thread and wonder if I hit 60-63 then the place rounds on him for 'he is using the hori again' If you were friends with him on the ps4 then I'm sure you could ask him rather than speculate here and cast aspertions that the guy requires help to play the game. Maybe he should have just not cheated in the first place then he wouldn't have had to worry about perception HB has taken a very liberal stance and almost hugged the cheaters actually so not sure why any of those guys think like they do. It is interesting that you say cheat when the rules of the league that triggered this were not clearly defined, in the spirit of the game sure Aces was on the wrong side of the fence but the process of sorting it out was flawed and the punishment meated out over the top. Perception is fine if the standard it maintained, seems to be fine for a person to unwittingly use software and then to fess up not to be dq'd here but in the other place the even though he admitted using the Hori before the rule was instatuted he is banned for 6 months in the 1st instance, for it now been dragged here so all the lggt info is relevant. There is zero evidence of Aces being poorer by a significant amount, not hitting 55-56 yeah but it seem fair here to have a pop at him without the chance of recourse. Everyone likes a level playing field but it has been evident by actual dq's and the odd rant in the forum that others are in fact trying to circumvent the fairness, my issue here is this thread has turned on one named person (gametag). HB took the right stance from their perspective because they cannot disenfranchise anyone who may want to buy the game, they are trying to address it the right way. He is not here to defend his position and therefore the thread should be locked and if Aces come into the fold then he is given the chance/verification required.
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Post by Mitchblue on Dec 18, 2014 9:31:44 GMT -5
I don't think it's been said if he went with stock controller he couldn't be playing here..It was in his park if he wanted to be here or not. 2 reason's why he's probably not here: 1.) He doesn't find it interesting or 2.) He doesn't want to play fair. Nonetheless, he's not here (his fault) case closed.
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Post by SweetTeeBag on Dec 18, 2014 9:53:32 GMT -5
Maybe he should have just not cheated in the first place then he wouldn't have had to worry about perception HB has taken a very liberal stance and almost hugged the cheaters actually so not sure why any of those guys think like they do. It is interesting that you say cheat when the rules of the league that triggered this were not clearly defined, in the spirit of the game sure Aces was on the wrong side of the fence but the process of sorting it out was flawed and the punishment meated out over the top. Perception is fine if the standard it maintained, seems to be fine for a person to unwittingly use software and then to fess up not to be dq'd here but in the other place the even though he admitted using the Hori before the rule was instatuted he is banned for 6 months in the 1st instance, for it now been dragged here so all the lggt info is relevant. There is zero evidence of Aces being poorer by a significant amount, not hitting 55-56 yeah but it seem fair here to have a pop at him without the chance of recourse. Everyone likes a level playing field but it has been evident by actual dq's and the odd rant in the forum that others are in fact trying to circumvent the fairness, my issue here is this thread has turned on one named person (gametag). HB took the right stance from their perspective because they cannot disenfranchise anyone who may want to buy the game, they are trying to address it the right way. He is not here to defend his position and therefore the thread should be locked and if Aces come into the fold then he is given the chance/verification required. My point is I was in another league with him (not LGGT) and his scores were removed from there too. Again, same situation he was told not to use the HORI, he agreed, and then used it anyway. I want my name up in lights too but come on. The point about his shots being looked at, yeah they should. You can't say one thing and go back to your old ways and not expect people to question it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2014 10:02:30 GMT -5
This thread should not be locked but deleted.
He (aces) would be welcome to come and play here with the controller of his choosing as well the way I have read the policy. Only controllers that are configured to hit consistently absolutely straight are going to be a problem. And that goes for any controller, as any controller on any platform can be configured to hit consistently absolutely straight.
TGCtours has implemented systems in place to control, monitor and enforce the policy, this is such a non issue, as the playing field here will be fair for all to join in on the fun without fear whatsoever that the field is not somehow fair.
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Post by SweetTeeBag on Dec 18, 2014 10:12:27 GMT -5
This thread should not be locked but deleted. He (aces) would be welcome to come and play here with the controller of his choosing as well the way I have read the policy. Only controllers that are configured to hit consistently absolutely straight are going to be a problem. And that goes for any controller, as any controller on any platform can be configured to hit consistently absolutely straight. TGCtours has implemented systems in place to control, monitor and enforce the policy, this is such a non issue, as the playing field here will be fair for all to join in on the fun without fear whatsoever that the field is not somehow fair. You have the right to your opinion whether I agree or not. This is a forum where we can discuss. My opinion is he should have played this tour as I think he could have done well. Why he didn't is beyond me. Shot straightness is going to be checked no matter who it is but his may be looked at more due to prior offenses. If his scores stood we would know he is playing they way it was intended.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2014 10:56:08 GMT -5
This thread should not be locked but deleted. He (aces) would be welcome to come and play here with the controller of his choosing as well the way I have read the policy. Only controllers that are configured to hit consistently absolutely straight are going to be a problem. And that goes for any controller, as any controller on any platform can be configured to hit consistently absolutely straight. TGCtours has implemented systems in place to control, monitor and enforce the policy, this is such a non issue, as the playing field here will be fair for all to join in on the fun without fear whatsoever that the field is not somehow fair. You have the right to your opinion whether I agree or not. This is a forum where we can discuss. My opinion is he should have played this tour as I think he could have done well. Why he didn't is beyond me. Shot straightness is going to be checked no matter who it is but his may be looked at more due to prior offenses. If his scores stood we would know he is playing they way it was intended. You are quite right of course, however the second anyone got singled out and called a cheater, is the very same second this thread should of been deleted.
I would not make any assumptions either, everything that needed to be said, has been clearly stated.
And this part is "not" for you as it is clear to me you get it, but for anyone else who may be concerned about any individual or device. I certainly cannot force anyone to clearly understand at just how fair these tours are going to be and how welcome each and every individual is to come in and join the fun.
The management staff here are outstanding at what they do, they do nothing at all half arsed. If you are told there is a policy, shown the policy, and read it will be enforced, you should believe that like it was chiselled in stone.
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Post by Mitchblue on Dec 18, 2014 14:22:00 GMT -5
This thread should not be locked but deleted. He (aces) would be welcome to come and play here with the controller of his choosing as well the way I have read the policy. Only controllers that are configured to hit consistently absolutely straight are going to be a problem. And that goes for any controller, as any controller on any platform can be configured to hit consistently absolutely straight. TGCtours has implemented systems in place to control, monitor and enforce the policy, this is such a non issue, as the playing field here will be fair for all to join in on the fun without fear whatsoever that the field is not somehow fair. You have the right to your opinion whether I agree or not. This is a forum where we can discuss. My opinion is he should have played this tour as I think he could have done well. Why he didn't is beyond me. Shot straightness is going to be checked no matter who it is but his may be looked at more due to prior offenses. If his scores stood we would know he is playing they way it was intended. I hate bashing on a guy but the way you say it sounds like you blame something else or someone else for him not being here? He's not here because of one person, himself. Maybe he likes playing with his Hori, maybe he thinks we're all idiots. Who knows..but no one here, to my understanding, has said "you can't play.'
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Post by SweetTeeBag on Dec 18, 2014 14:33:35 GMT -5
You have the right to your opinion whether I agree or not. This is a forum where we can discuss. My opinion is he should have played this tour as I think he could have done well. Why he didn't is beyond me. Shot straightness is going to be checked no matter who it is but his may be looked at more due to prior offenses. If his scores stood we would know he is playing they way it was intended. I hate bashing on a guy but the way you say it sounds like you blame something else or someone else for him not being here? He's not here because of one person, himself. Maybe he likes playing with his Hori, maybe he thinks we're all idiots. Who knows..but no one here, to my understanding, has said "you can't play.' I'm just surprised he didn't want to play on tour with us all. There aren't any other good leagues other than LGGT I am aware of.
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Post by Mitchblue on Dec 18, 2014 14:48:10 GMT -5
I hate bashing on a guy but the way you say it sounds like you blame something else or someone else for him not being here? He's not here because of one person, himself. Maybe he likes playing with his Hori, maybe he thinks we're all idiots. Who knows..but no one here, to my understanding, has said "you can't play.' I'm just surprised he didn't want to play on tour with us all. There aren't any other good leagues other than LGGT I am aware of. I don't know. Not everyone with the TGC game plays here. I don't worry about it..
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Post by NCFCRulz on Dec 18, 2014 14:57:06 GMT -5
Tbh I couldn't care less about whether he joins the tour or not. Fact of the matter is this is a forum where opinions are welcome and mine is I believe he won't play as he doesn't like submitting below average scores.
If he wants to come on and state otherwise he is welcome too! He knows where this forum is and I'm sure he has viewed this thread... The fact he hasn't tells me I'm probably right!
But at the end of the day who cares! I don't really want to play with anyone who plays games like that anyway! Again, this is my opinion!
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Post by Mitchblue on Dec 18, 2014 15:29:58 GMT -5
Tbh I couldn't care less about whether he joins the tour or not. Fact of the matter is this is a forum where opinions are welcome and mine is I believe he won't play as he doesn't like submitting below average scores. If he wants to come on and state otherwise he is welcome too! He knows where this forum is and I'm sure he has viewed this thread... The fact he hasn't tells me I'm probably right! But at the end of the day who cares! I don't really want to play with anyone who plays games like that anyway! Again, this is my opinion! Is that your baby? So cute..
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Post by dlw1964 on Dec 18, 2014 16:04:13 GMT -5
My guess is he feels like scruffy that pc players have an advantage over console players.(scruffy and him are friends) I tried very hard to talk scruffy into playing but he wont. I love competition and the tgc has the best competition. Also whether you guys believe it or not, I prefer to play with my stock controller than my hori. The golfing world I came from, the tw series a hori or some other good 3rd party controller was a necessary evil if you wanted to compete. (Very high % of players used them) Surprisingly to me the % of players using them in this game is very low. I know some players aren't going to trust my scores so to them I say have fun watching my rounds.
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Post by djdavefl on Dec 18, 2014 16:14:36 GMT -5
Two pages of threads speculation on why a certain individual isn't playing..... Jeez, honestly who cares? Or why should we care?
Kinda like the artist whose paintings become more valuable after his death.
More people are talking about this individual because he didn't play, than are talking about the 570 odd people who played all six rounds.
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Post by NCFCRulz on Dec 18, 2014 16:27:34 GMT -5
Tbh I couldn't care less about whether he joins the tour or not. Fact of the matter is this is a forum where opinions are welcome and mine is I believe he won't play as he doesn't like submitting below average scores. If he wants to come on and state otherwise he is welcome too! He knows where this forum is and I'm sure he has viewed this thread... The fact he hasn't tells me I'm probably right! But at the end of the day who cares! I don't really want to play with anyone who plays games like that anyway! Again, this is my opinion! Is that your baby? So cute.. Yeah it is thanks! Just under 4 months old! Tgctours is the only game I currently am able to find time for!
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Post by dlw1964 on Dec 18, 2014 16:44:07 GMT -5
Two pages of threads speculation on why a certain individual isn't playing..... Jeez, honestly who cares? Or why should we care? Kinda like the artist whose paintings become more valuable after his death. More people are talking about this individual because he didn't play, than are talking about the 570 odd people who played all six rounds. For me I want all the best ps4 players to play. Scruffy is a very good and legit player. Yes ace uses a hori but I believe he would do just fine with a stock if he wanted too. Actually I'm surprised that this thread hasn't been locked or even deleted by now.
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