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Post by misternic on Nov 5, 2014 12:31:41 GMT -5
On average how often do you use the draw fade adjusters in a given round? Fairly certain everyone is using high/low a good deal, but I hear a lot of talk about crosswinds, or tree overhangs and very little about people compensating with the shot making tools. Maybe it is just not discussed. Also, how often do you adjust the high/low on your driver for general distance control? I never do, just curious.
Just curious. I probably use draw/fade 3-4 times a round. Usually I will "play the wind", but sometimes that is not possible, or I want to really turn the ball over for some reason or another. I also use it to work my way around water. I think there may be a wide range here, but thought I would start the discussion.
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Post by bentfivewood on Nov 5, 2014 12:36:11 GMT -5
I frequently use draw and fade to get a more favourable angle of approach to a pin, particularly if pins are well hidden (as they often are) and/or the greens are firm and fast. Son gual is a good example of where u use it a lot.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2014 13:51:19 GMT -5
I would probably use the Draw/fade tool if I could count on my thumb to hit the ball straighter. But, since I use a trackball mouse ... there is no guarantee that will be the case. I do change the loft of the club almost every shot (open/close of the face of the club). This is a total guessing game when doing such, but it is a must when in between club distances, and if you're trying to stop the ball around fast greens ... (both at which I'm still not great at ... even in real life) ... LOL
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2014 15:10:49 GMT -5
I frequently use draw and fade to get a more favourable angle of approach to a pin, particularly if pins are well hidden (as they often are) and/or the greens are firm and fast. Son gual is a good example of where u use it a lot. I'm about the same. High cuts to stop the ball quicker, draws from the tee for more carry. I tend to use draw/fade less in higher winds...too much margin for error in those situations. |
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Post by Mitchblue on Nov 5, 2014 18:10:37 GMT -5
I use it rarely..long approach going into a par 4 and tree blocks my way so I'll use it to get around it. Doesn't happen much though..
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Post by coruler2 on Nov 6, 2014 1:44:06 GMT -5
Very rarely. Only in situations where I have to (trees, etc), or where I have a long iron/wood to the green and the green runs away in a certain direction and I want to maximize the roll I get on the green. Other than that I try to go straight arrow
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Post by onhobobobohno on Nov 6, 2014 10:01:45 GMT -5
I frequently use draw and fade to get a more favourable angle of approach to a pin, particularly if pins are well hidden (as they often are) and/or the greens are firm and fast. Son gual is a good example of where u use it a lot. Exactly, if i have a right pin location and wind is blowing right to left, i'm working the fade. Same goes for the opposite. Dogleg left with helping wind, I'm drawing it for that extra distance. I feel that a course that is well designed requires you to hit those shots multiple times a round. Not a lot, but its a necessary tool in professional golf to be able to shape shots, not just rely on the wind. |
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Post by bentfivewood on Nov 6, 2014 10:44:19 GMT -5
I frequently use draw and fade to get a more favourable angle of approach to a pin, particularly if pins are well hidden (as they often are) and/or the greens are firm and fast. Son gual is a good example of where u use it a lot. Exactly, if i have a right pin location and wind is blowing right to left, i'm working the fade. Same goes for the opposite. Dogleg left with helping wind, I'm drawing it for that extra distance. I feel that a course that is well designed requires you to hit those shots multiple times a round. Not a lot, but its a necessary tool in professional golf to be able to shape shots, not just rely on the wind. Funny you should mention that. When I am laying fairways, sometimes I am thinking of a specific shaped shot that the player will need to execute to get the maximum distance. I think the mistake some people make (including me sometimes) is that they design the holes with no outs when conditions make a certain shaped shot impossible. |
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Post by BeamerCA on Nov 6, 2014 11:34:29 GMT -5
Rarely , depends on the situation . I play the wind more, trying to manage course better.
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Post by onhobobobohno on Nov 6, 2014 12:17:15 GMT -5
Exactly, if i have a right pin location and wind is blowing right to left, i'm working the fade. Same goes for the opposite. Dogleg left with helping wind, I'm drawing it for that extra distance. I feel that a course that is well designed requires you to hit those shots multiple times a round. Not a lot, but its a necessary tool in professional golf to be able to shape shots, not just rely on the wind. Funny you should mention that. When I am laying fairways, sometimes I am thinking of a specific shaped shot that the player will need to execute to get the maximum distance. I think the mistake some people make (including me sometimes) is that they design the holes with no outs when conditions make a certain shaped shot impossible. Just published my 1st course "Rolling Lakes C.C." check it out.... I feel there are some good shots where you need to shape and club selection too... |
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Post by Sassy Lady on Nov 6, 2014 13:43:24 GMT -5
I use it whenever the situation calls for it, which is uncommon, but not that rare. I'm designing a course that has one hole that pretty much requires it. If you want to hit that green in regulation, anyway. The hole is setup to require it as a test of a golfer's shot shaping ability. I guess you could not use it and go for par, but where's the fun in that?
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Post by Sassy Lady on Nov 6, 2014 14:31:47 GMT -5
Just published my 1st course "Rolling Lakes C.C." check it out.... I feel there are some good shots where you need to shape and club selection too...
Just played the course. At first I thought it was auto-generated, but upon closer examination, I see it's not. It's a good course. Hole 10 requires a right to left shaped shot if you want to put yourself in position for a not too difficult GIR. I was fully prepared to shape right to left on hole 14 to drive the green but the wind was such, I didn't need to. Drove the green and just missed the eagle.
I gave it a 9 because I don't see why a country club would have fast greens. A links course, a desert course, a boreal course maybe, but a rural Country Club course? Especially with all that water around? Just my opinion.
I'd definitely play it again. Good work for a first submission. You should submit it to TGC tours for inclusion in the course listings.
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Post by bouldazgmoney on Nov 8, 2014 14:40:37 GMT -5
I use it a lot in high winds. I like to draw and fade against the wind to have a more controlled line of flight. Be careful, however, because working against the wind can take a few yards off your calculated yardage.
Some of the better designed courses have drives/2nd shots that require draw/fade in order to find yourself in a good scoring position.
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Post by bruce on Nov 11, 2014 7:42:51 GMT -5
Same here, use it for high winds , in combination with aiming the ball slightly left or right as well.. I would say I almost use it on every hole, unless the winds are 5mph or under. My problem now is overcompensating, especially If the wind suddenly changes.
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Post by CongoGB on Nov 11, 2014 9:14:33 GMT -5
Very rarely for me - for example, normally only if I really have to bend the ball around trees to get onto a par 5 in 2. My days playing Links have left me a pretty good judge of the wind (famous last words...)
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