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Post by Doyley on Jul 11, 2015 21:36:59 GMT -5
Challenge Circuit Flights B through Z To earn an exemption you must be within 10 shots of highest (worst) scoring leader in all flights above yours. Previously it was within 10 of leader in flight immediately above yours.
Ex. Flight Winning Score CC-A -33 CC-B -31 CC-C -39 CC-D -29 CC-E -25 CC-Z -10
Exemptions given to… CC-A Top 5+ ties CC-B all scores 23-under and lower CC-C all scores 21-under and lower CC-D all scores 21-under and lower (taken from CC-B's leader) CC-E all scores 19-under and lower CC-Z all scores 15-under and lower ***
***new*** CC-Z players shooting 10-under or better for the tournament automatically earn CC-E card
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Post by Doyley on Jul 11, 2015 21:37:50 GMT -5
Props to Tim for being able to code this stuff!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2015 21:48:30 GMT -5
If someone were to be within ten strokes of a winner multiple flights above, then would the exemption be in that flight they beat, or would the exemption still be for one flight up?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2015 21:53:35 GMT -5
Using your example, would the -39 CC-C winner get an exemption to CC-A or CC-B?
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Post by Doyley on Jul 11, 2015 21:55:36 GMT -5
Just one flight up so the -39 CC-C winner would bump up to CC-B
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2015 22:49:46 GMT -5
Wow! CC-Z folks scoring -5 or better get an exemption?
That's awesome!
I'll never earn one, but that's awesome!
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Post by Doyley on Jul 12, 2015 0:15:51 GMT -5
Wow! CC-Z folks scoring -5 or better get an exemption? That's awesome! I'll never earn one, but that's awesome! Not an exemption, they get a CC-E tour card.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2015 0:16:36 GMT -5
Well, I won't be getting that either.
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Post by Doyley on Jul 12, 2015 0:27:50 GMT -5
I'm going to send you a link to that post the day you get your CC-E card!
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Post by Mick on Jul 12, 2015 8:01:50 GMT -5
I'm really liking all these new changes because there is much more of an incentive to be competitive while the grouping constantly gets rotated to keep things interesting. You guys are doing an amazing job, thanks again.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2015 8:37:34 GMT -5
I'm going to send you a link to that post the day you get your CC-E card! No need...if that happens, I'll likely drop dead of a heart attack right there in the living room.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2015 11:16:45 GMT -5
I'm going to send you a link to that post the day you get your CC-E card! No need...if that happens, I'll likely drop dead of a heart attack right there in the living room. What a way to go though!
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Post by Doyley on Jul 12, 2015 19:28:35 GMT -5
Now with W27 data...
Flight Winning Score CC-A -42 CC-B -41 CC-C -36 CC-D -40 CC-E -27 CC-Z -10
Exemptions given to… CC-A Top 5+ ties CC-B all scores 32-under and lower CC-C all scores 31-under and lower CC-D all scores 26-under and lower CC-E all scores 26-under and lower (taken from CC-C's leader) CC-Z all scores 17-under and lower ***
CC-Z - anyone shooting 5-under or lower automatically gets CC-E tour card (that applies to two CC-Z members this week)
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Post by Doyley on Jul 12, 2015 20:05:45 GMT -5
Under the old system CC-E players would have had to shoot 30-under or better...which just doesn't seem fair since CC-D only need 26-under.
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Post by Orion on Jul 12, 2015 22:27:34 GMT -5
Scott,
This is a great way to get only the best of the best to have the chance to be able to earn an exemption to give it a shot at a higher level. Bravo, think the system will work to help limit the number of exemptions that get handed out. On the other side of this coin is the average, middle of the road golfer who will never again see the opportunity to earn an exemption. To be real, there are limits to some of us who will never attain those skill levels to shoot those fantastic low scores. But, there was always that hope that on one week, you might play well enough to earn a chance to play up. With now having to compete directly with the CC-A players and their great scores, that hope is now a much more distant destination and is effectively removed. Based upon your examples above, my best ever finish, -23, would not get me close enough for the opportunity to possibly play up to the D level and see if I could join the lower portion of that group. Looking at the stats of the lower CC-D, I could live quite comfortably there now, if I had the chance to get there. Now, no way, and losing out the opportunity to try, well, a little demoralizing I would say. Yes, practice and practice more and one day I might get there. Well, I do practice a lot, but with the hope for the chance to get up now effectively gone, will still practice and enjoy myself, but now must really get ready for a permanent home here in CC-E. Maybe I should strike out, go down to CC-Z, shoot a -5 under (which is very realistic for me) and re-earn a CC-E card and then feel like I have earned an opportunity to have moved up. I am not crying foul here or trying to be a bad, disgruntled player, but there was always that realistic hope that I could get the exemption, play up and do well enough to earn the new card and feel like I was given the opportunity, took it, earned it by finishing good enough to get the card. It was about the opportunity that was within my reach, now I feel that is gone. I know my playing limits, but do not feel that I am not good enough for the 2 levels that are currently above me. I see the stats, mine would be good enough for those 2, but now the chance to get there is gone now, and only a miracle in my skill level will I have the chance. I say that I am good enough, not based upon the way we were sorted into our current levels, I look at the tournament scores and see where I would have placed if I had been playing up at that level. It has nothing to do with avg. final round scoring, avg. score, it was the tournament results and what I had shot that I say this. Just wanted to say what I think a lot of average players may be feeling with these changes. I know that it is best for the better players, but I am not one of them and I think that us average players are of such a number that we just would still like a more realistic chance of getting the opportunity to at least try to move up, even if it were only one or two levels, the chance would still be there and that is very motivating in of itself. This is not about not wanting a challenge, or something that is too hard, it is about knowing your limits and trying to better yourself with a goal that could be within the reach of current skill sets. This new setup is good, but not for the average, skill limited group of players who must now accept the fact that with the bar going up, what else can be done to have a chance to move up, or just accept it and accept that this level is now our home, forever most likely. I feel that I would rather strike out and get demoted from a level rather than never being able to meet the new requirements to try out to play at that level. My saying that I never will get the opportunity to play up is based solely on knowing my skill level rather than saying that I am being denied access to play up. Just to be clear on that. No one or this change is denying me the opportunity, it is there, just not realistic for me and maybe for a lot more than what you might think that is out here. Maybe I am the only one stupid enough to say all of this in an open forum, but do not care, it is what I feel and think that I am not alone in these feelings at the moment.
Thanks for reading all of this( if you actually do), is meant only to express a viewpoint and is in no way a criticism of the new guidelines, although it could be viewed that way, it was not my intention to do so. More of an expression of permanence.
Orion..................
Under the old system CC-E players would have had to shoot 30-under or better...which just doesn't seem fair since CC-D only need 26-under.
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