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Post by meunier33 on Apr 15, 2025 12:44:43 GMT -5
If the swing bias was not there I would be playing the game as intended right now. Swing Bias....is intentional. And to be fair, you were looking for ways to get the "6 to 12" swing in 2K23 to "obey" you and "play as intended" as well. I don't change what I do in the game. I swing exactly how I did in the original TGC from 10 years ago. This is where the incomplete swing comes from. I have said before that I don't know how to change things and I don't know how to adapt to a new swing.
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Post by sroel908 on Apr 15, 2025 12:52:03 GMT -5
Swing Bias....is intentional. And to be fair, you were looking for ways to get the "6 to 12" swing in 2K23 to "obey" you and "play as intended" as well. I don't change what I do in the game. I swing exactly how I did in the original TGC from 10 years ago. This is where the incomplete swing comes from. This boggles the mind. I'm sorry, but playing this game, or even 2K23, the same way you played The Golf Club from 2015 and expecting the same result is just mindboggling.
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Post by zzfr33b1rdzz on Apr 15, 2025 12:57:47 GMT -5
I don't change what I do in the game. I swing exactly how I did in the original TGC from 10 years ago. This is where the incomplete swing comes from. This boggles the mind. LOL and he wonders why he's not shooting well.. classic
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Post by meunier33 on Apr 15, 2025 13:17:40 GMT -5
The incomplete swinging comes from a swing glitch from 10 years ago when the original TGC first came out. I have never figured out how to change or adapt my swing because of what I expect. I expect the computer to automatically take over my swing and complete it for me when I let go of the stick halfway through the swing, because this is what it did in the original game. All the unorthodox and weird things I do in this game are because they worked in the original TGC. I line up the putt with the side of the hole and not the center because this worked 10 years ago. I don't understand why if something worked in the past that it does not work now. I don't understand why backwards swing compatibility is not built into the game. I don't like changing or adapting to new things. I like getting a routine and sticking to it forever. In 23 I stayed in CC-H swinging the old way, was promoted a couple times even though I fell back, and I even qualified for a major once! Now that putts have full swings in this game, the incomplete swing problem bothers me in that also. I have to guess the putt strength and I'm not able to bring the putter back to the vibration. The same thing is causing me to have no distance control on pitches also.
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Post by martbloke on Apr 15, 2025 14:06:40 GMT -5
Quite simple to understand really. They built the game differently. It's like saying when the Devs build a new game that uses the A button to crouch instead of the B button that it was in the previous game that, "I don't know why when I press B it doesn't crouch anymore?!" 🤷🏼♂️
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Post by meunier33 on Apr 15, 2025 14:22:41 GMT -5
Quite simple to understand really. They built the game differently. It's like saying when the Devs build a new game that uses the A button to crouch instead of the B button that it was in the previous game that, "I don't know why when I press B it doesn't crouch anymore?!" 🤷🏼♂️ I don't understand something like that because I don't understand why it would be changed in the first place. Why make the game more complicated? I also use incomplete swings for reasons other than it being the original swing. I think if I use the incomplete swing I can deny input to to the computer and force it to give me a perfect swing every time because there is no downswing registered. Sometimes I will swing so cut off and fast my swing meter looks like "^" and the ball is chunked.
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Post by sroel908 on Apr 15, 2025 14:27:49 GMT -5
Quite simple to understand really. They built the game differently. It's like saying when the Devs build a new game that uses the A button to crouch instead of the B button that it was in the previous game that, "I don't know why when I press B it doesn't crouch anymore?!" 🤷🏼♂️ I don't understand something like that because I don't understand why it would be changed in the first place. Why make the game more complicated? I'm sorry, but the "why" of it doesn't really matter...the game mechanics have changed. And the interesting this is - many see this version as less complicated than previous versions despite the swing bias, now that tempo is no longer a thing. Just hit the two points on the meter in rhythm and you're good to go. The whole point is that, no matter what, playing PGA 2K25 the same way you played TGC 1, 2, 2019, 2K21, or 2K23 is futile. And then the frustrations and complaints about it ring hollow, because you're attempting to play a game in a way that it wasn't designed to be played.
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Post by b101 on Apr 15, 2025 14:36:59 GMT -5
Quite simple to understand really. They built the game differently. It's like saying when the Devs build a new game that uses the A button to crouch instead of the B button that it was in the previous game that, "I don't know why when I press B it doesn't crouch anymore?!" 🤷🏼♂️ I don't understand something like that because I don't understand why it would be changed in the first place. Why make the game more complicated? I also use incomplete swings for reasons other than it being the original swing. I think if I use the incomplete swing I can deny input to to the computer and force it to give me a perfect swing every time because there is no downswing registered. Sometimes I will swing so cut off and fast my swing meter looks like "^" and the ball is chunked. The same reason we change anything in any walk of life - with the aim (successfully, I might add) to make it better. I totally get how you view this but the ‘old’ methods you had won’t ever produce the results you are expecting as the game has moved on. I just really hope that you can some time finally accept that and enjoy the game for what it is rather than hating it (as it seems) for not being what it was.
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Post by meunier33 on Apr 15, 2025 14:46:19 GMT -5
Swing bias is 100% much harder for me than tempo because of how new it is and the curved swing. I would have been in CC-D or something if tempo had stayed based on my scores at the end of 2K23. I don't get how anyone is shooting under par now after years of straight swings and having to switch to a curved one. One thing I am wondering is if I should change to a pinch grip instead of touching the control as little as possible with my thumb.
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Post by martbloke on Apr 15, 2025 14:52:39 GMT -5
Just use a joystick! 🤪🤣😂
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Post by b101 on Apr 15, 2025 14:59:58 GMT -5
Swing bias is 100% much harder for me than tempo because of how new it is and the curved swing. I would have been in CC-D or something if tempo had stayed based on my scores at the end of 2K23. I don't get how anyone is shooting under par now after years of straight swings and having to switch to a curved one. One thing I am wondering is if I should change to a pinch grip instead of touching the control as little as possible with my thumb. Why not just rotate your controller?
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Post by meunier33 on Apr 15, 2025 15:15:36 GMT -5
I don't know how much of my weird swing comes from real golf either. When I played real golf in the past, I would swing so hard my glasses flew off my face half the time, and I basically let the club go where it wanted to at contact. I don't think swinging backwards with the controller upside down would work very well!
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Post by zzfr33b1rdzz on Apr 15, 2025 15:48:38 GMT -5
I mean, I don't know why it's so hard to pull back and push forward on a slight angle for this game. Anyway, you keep doing you. My guess is when you figure this out, 2K27 will drop and we'll rinse/repeat the process..
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Post by meunier33 on Apr 15, 2025 22:55:21 GMT -5
Another thing is that I have never played with the swing meter off. In all previous games I used the swing meter to visually guide my swing. I don't know how to swing by feel even with the vibration.
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Post by retteach on Apr 15, 2025 23:17:28 GMT -5
Marc,
The community is really trying to help. Try swinging through the ball like the rest of us and it will get better with practice. Any change is always difficult but give it some time through an entire season. You will get there. Good luck...be patient.
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