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Post by rob4590 on Oct 29, 2022 6:37:35 GMT -5
Is the 'chipping on greens' rule staying the same Scott? ie over 75ft or obstructed, you can chip? I would assume so, as with the balls that slow greens down (and the fact that slower speeds will be necessary for CC (and maybe pro tours) due to the increased overall green speeds) anything longer and uphill won't reach!
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Post by Kie on Oct 29, 2022 7:13:38 GMT -5
Will courses, conditions, pin positions and green speeds be set so that greens are fair and playable using default ball. Or will we have to use a 'special ball' in order to make green speeds fair and playable in some rounds?
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Post by b101 on Oct 29, 2022 7:25:13 GMT -5
Will courses, conditions, pin positions and green speeds be set so that greens are fair and playable using default ball. Or will we have to use a 'special ball' in order to make green speeds fair and playable in some rounds? From a designer's point of view, almost everyone I've spoken to is still designing around the basic ball. None of us have any interest in the ball sleeves, so whilst they can give an advantage, they won't be required. Additionally, rangers are mostly testing using default balls. The sooner they are able to be locked out of competitive societies, the better.
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Post by hmammoth on Oct 29, 2022 7:56:52 GMT -5
Will courses, conditions, pin positions and green speeds be set so that greens are fair and playable using default ball. Or will we have to use a 'special ball' in order to make green speeds fair and playable in some rounds? For the kinetic, all settings are being done with the default ball, I hope most people will use the default ball, I wish everyone would but somehow I doubt that but to play the courses the way I have set them up, as in certain days and pin sets to play a certain way, somedays easy, somedays hard, the default ball should be used.
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Post by ColeStyle on Oct 29, 2022 8:45:44 GMT -5
Difficulty SettingsSwing Difficulty: Master Swing Timing: On Distance Control Meter (Platinum/Elite/Kinetic/Challenge Circuit): Off Distance Control Meter (Beer League): On Distance Control Assist: Off Putt Preview: 0 Course Yardage: Book Only Pro Vision: All off Scout Camera: UI Off Lie Grid: Open Green Grid: Open Pin Preference: Open Aim Marker: Marker Only Wind Display (Platinum/Elite/Kinetic): Meter Only Wind Display (Challenge Circuit/Beer League): Open Distance Display: Carry Swing Input (Platinum/Elite/Kinetic/Challenge Circuit): Swing Stick Swing Input (Beer League): 3-Click
TLDR:
- Main Tours all Master, Beer League also Master
- Main Tours swing stick only
- Beer League 3-click only
Are these official and when does Q school begin? I’m pleased about every setting except I wish you guys would just turn course yardage on. What’s the reasoning behind course yardage being book only? Kind of annoying having to change my settings every round I play TGC tours just to get yardage info and don’t believe book only makes it much more difficult.
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Post by Kie on Oct 29, 2022 8:49:43 GMT -5
Will courses, conditions, pin positions and green speeds be set so that greens are fair and playable using default ball. Or will we have to use a 'special ball' in order to make green speeds fair and playable in some rounds? From a designer's point of view, almost everyone I've spoken to is still designing around the basic ball. None of us have any interest in the ball sleeves, so whilst they can give an advantage, they won't be required. Additionally, rangers are mostly testing using default balls. The sooner they are able to be locked out of competitive societies, the better. Thanks Ben, good news.
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Post by Doyley on Oct 29, 2022 8:53:25 GMT -5
Are these official and when does Q school begin? I’m pleased about every setting except I wish you guys would just turn course yardage on. What’s the reasoning behind course yardage being book only? Gives a little less information and cleans up the screen (less clutter in the middle).
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Post by ColeStyle on Oct 29, 2022 8:56:41 GMT -5
Are these official and when does Q school begin? I’m pleased about every setting except I wish you guys would just turn course yardage on. What’s the reasoning behind course yardage being book only? Gives a little less information and cleans up the screen (less clutter in the middle). Are these difficulty settings official and when is Q school?
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Post by InsanericK on Oct 29, 2022 13:11:47 GMT -5
Is the 'chipping on greens' rule staying the same Scott? ie over 75ft or obstructed, you can chip? I would assume so, as with the balls that slow greens down (and the fact that slower speeds will be necessary for CC (and maybe pro tours) due to the increased overall green speeds) anything longer and uphill won't reach! Exaclty! It could be out of reach for 50f putt with several feets of elevation if we play a round on 120 gree. Chipping should be like PGA, do whatever you want. If someone thinks he's gonna have an edge by chipping everything in the green, than do it! When you face a very steep short and red downhill slope and you have to make the ball break 2f after that slide, chipping is the only solution again. There's no difference about this or having the fringe in your way, the slope is in your way and it's impossible to putt. The Par 5 on official course of Phoenix (somehwere between hole #2 and #5) with a 2-steps greens is a perfect example. It's nearly impossible to not go into the fringe if you putt from the high step to the other.
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Post by jeseterr on Oct 29, 2022 13:19:42 GMT -5
After seeing the difficulties I won't be playing TGC Tours as I am not capable of playing on master even in the Beer League. It's too bad that there was no consideration for those of us who's ability to play is on Pro. Look I understand how it is and I don't begrudge TGC Tours as I have the utmost respect for them and what they do, how much free time they put in to make TGC Tours what it is a very good tour. I have been playing the tour since inception I have enjoyed it very much. I am sure there many players who feel the same way as it's too bad that us pro players (and I'm sure there are a lot of us) couldn't get a tour for us, but I understand. It's been a great ride and good luck TGC Tours and again thanks for all the hard work that you and all the volunteers have put into the TGC Tour. Mate there are the same conditions for all of us. The cut line is going to be higher. It isn’t good dont make the cut with -15 after two rounds in CC-L.
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Post by Giraffe72 on Oct 29, 2022 18:32:14 GMT -5
Is the 'chipping on greens' rule staying the same Scott? ie over 75ft or obstructed, you can chip? I would assume so, as with the balls that slow greens down (and the fact that slower speeds will be necessary for CC (and maybe pro tours) due to the increased overall green speeds) anything longer and uphill won't reach! Is this still a thing? I'm putting off the fairways!
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Post by JosiaDB on Oct 29, 2022 19:10:06 GMT -5
Gives a little less information and cleans up the screen (less clutter in the middle). Are these difficulty settings official and when is Q school?
Just the fact that they posted it means it is official.
Somewhere I read that Q school start is TBD, they are still doing API testing. Be at least one more week of practice.
I'm looking forward to this season, getting back in it. Thank you admins and all who are working behind the scenes on this, appreciate all your work!
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Post by dodgyau on Oct 30, 2022 3:47:48 GMT -5
3 click only being in beer league isn’t great, but I understand the reasons. I’m not interested in going back to stick, so not sure if I’ll bother signing up. Will be interesting to see how participation goes with CC only being stick and masters difficulty. Have fun!
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Post by paddyjk19 on Oct 30, 2022 6:40:41 GMT -5
After seeing the difficulties I won't be playing TGC Tours as I am not capable of playing on master even in the Beer League. It's too bad that there was no consideration for those of us who's ability to play is on Pro. Look I understand how it is and I don't begrudge TGC Tours as I have the utmost respect for them and what they do, how much free time they put in to make TGC Tours what it is a very good tour. I have been playing the tour since inception I have enjoyed it very much. I am sure there many players who feel the same way as it's too bad that us pro players (and I'm sure there are a lot of us) couldn't get a tour for us, but I understand. It's been a great ride and good luck TGC Tours and again thanks for all the hard work that you and all the volunteers have put into the TGC Tour. So you are not even going to try? Wow! Just give up before even qualifying? Practice and repetitions will improve your ability to play master. I am not where I want to be with master at this present time but I’ll get back to where I am satisfied. The game itself will help you improve by just playing rounds to collect and use the fittings, ect. Don’t throw in the towel just yet. At least give it a go in qualifying. I agree with this, I’ve been playing legend which then makes Masters seem easier, always important to push on with harder difficulties to improve. Also the tours are flighted, I’m sure the lower CC tours will have folks who struggle a bit on Masters, that’s the whole idea of flighted tours
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Post by paddyjk19 on Oct 30, 2022 6:47:17 GMT -5
Exaclty! It could be out of reach for 50f putt with several feets of elevation if we play a round on 120 gree. Chipping should be like PGA, do whatever you want. If someone thinks he's gonna have an edge by chipping everything in the green, than do it! When you face a very steep short and red downhill slope and you have to make the ball break 2f after that slide, chipping is the only solution again. There's no difference about this or having the fringe in your way, the slope is in your way and it's impossible to putt. The Par 5 on official course of Phoenix (somehwere between hole #2 and #5) with a 2-steps greens is a perfect example. It's nearly impossible to not go into the fringe if you putt from the high step to the other. I agree with this. Chipping is a touch harder than previous games so I see no real advantage to chipping on the green so I’d suggest just have at it
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