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Post by SkyBlueBen on Oct 24, 2022 1:51:40 GMT -5
Still using analog swing on PS5. Elite event: This was a really nice course, especially with the visuals. I had some poor tempo in R1, a bit better in R2, and then it was good for R3 and R4. Master does seem like the way to go for the majority of the main tours. Not sure about Legend. Perhaps for Platinum only, but I'll defer to the true elite players on that, and to those in charge of making that decision. Went -5/-7/-14/-14 for a -40 event. Still way back of the leaders. Had a few more hole-outs from off of the green than I think I would normally have in a typical event. That’s why I would suggest Legend for the Pro Tours. You can see from the scores (including yours) that the better players have easily conquered Master. I know Doyley doesn’t want a step up in difficulty between CC and Pro but if some of the top players in CC-A don’t want a promotion to a higher difficulty level then you have to wonder why not in a competitive environment. To put it in context I was over par for the tournament 🤣 |
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terryhenry44
Caddy
Posts: 19
TGCT Name: TerryHenry_44
Tour: Platinum
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Post by terryhenry44 on Oct 24, 2022 1:55:28 GMT -5
This is what a lot of people don’t seem to understand. It doesn’t matter the difficulty… The better golfers are almost always going be on top. “A rising tide lifts all boats” Making it easier or harder isn’t going to to close or separate the gap in skill. Ditto. Contrary to others on here I am finding master similar to 2k21, just because there aren't red fasts anymore doesn't mean you're not hitting bad shots. I find master extremely difficult and inconsistent, ruins the enjoyment completely for me on the career mode and societies. Again, the best will be the best either way, I vote pro for all tours except plat maybe. |
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Post by Cecil Harvey on Oct 24, 2022 2:14:47 GMT -5
Still using analog swing on PS5. Elite event: This was a really nice course, especially with the visuals. I had some poor tempo in R1, a bit better in R2, and then it was good for R3 and R4. Master does seem like the way to go for the majority of the main tours. Not sure about Legend. Perhaps for Platinum only, but I'll defer to the true elite players on that, and to those in charge of making that decision. Went -5/-7/-14/-14 for a -40 event. Still way back of the leaders. Had a few more hole-outs from off of the green than I think I would normally have in a typical event. That’s why I would suggest Legend for the Pro Tours. You can see from the scores (including yours) that the better players have easily conquered Master. I know Doyley doesn’t want a step up in difficulty between CC and Pro but if some of the top players in CC-A don’t want a promotion to a higher difficulty level then you have to wonder why not in a competitive environment. To put it in context I was over par for the tournament 🤣 My swing was far from perfect and I was 61% FIR through the first two rounds. Given a Legend setup I would score significantly worse across the board. I am not a Platinum level talent. Putting the top three tours at Legend versus just the top tour (Platinum) is a debate that I think we should have, but I think there is quite a talent difference from Kinetic to Platinum, especially when you take into consideration that Platinum alone is a significant talent distribution in of itself from the top to bottom. |
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Post by rob4590 on Oct 24, 2022 4:06:04 GMT -5
I think we are in a position with this game where there can be changes to the difficulty setup throughout the tours. Thus maybe the top two pro tours on legend - but with other settings being easier on Elite than Plat (eg possibly lie grid, yardage book, wind speed, Aim Marker) Then Kinetic on Master to be split into say 4 levels (K-A to K-D) - but having all those aids off. (effectively the old CC-Pro from TGC2) CC all on Master (say 8 tiers - the old CC-Am) - but with some / all of those aids back on. Thus you now get a gradual increase of difficulty as you rise through the tiers, more people in the 'pro tours'... And if people don't like the increased difficulty if they are promoted - well I hate to say it, but this is supposed to be a competitive setup, where everyone should be challenged by others who are around the same level as they are - rather than beating up on those who aren't as good as they are, week after week.
Edit: Beer League (forgot about it) - should be 3-click only
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Post by M.Bel_Trame on Oct 24, 2022 5:44:47 GMT -5
IMHO,3 click needs separate league, analog stick and 3 click button are two different sports, my2cents
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Post by martbloke on Oct 24, 2022 6:00:38 GMT -5
Wonder if it's possible to show input type (3C or Analog) and potentially ball type on the leaderboards if you don't want to DSQ those not using default ball (if you can see them of course). Feel like it's possible as difficulty was displayed before and may be interesting seeing this.
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Post by Koop on Oct 24, 2022 7:10:45 GMT -5
I think we are in a position with this game where there can be changes to the difficulty setup throughout the tours. Thus maybe the top two pro tours on legend - but with other settings being easier on Elite than Plat (eg possibly lie grid, yardage book, wind speed, Aim Marker) Then Kinetic on Master to be split into say 4 levels (K-A to K-D) - but having all those aids off. (effectively the old CC-Pro from TGC2) CC all on Master (say 8 tiers - the old CC-Am) - but with some / all of those aids back on. Thus you now get a gradual increase of difficulty as you rise through the tiers, more people in the 'pro tours'... And if people don't like the increased difficulty if they are promoted - well I hate to say it, but this is supposed to be a competitive setup, where everyone should be challenged by others who are around the same level as they are - rather than beating up on those who aren't as good as they are, week after week.
Edit: Beer League (forgot about it) - should be 3-click only
Yes please, Using masters swing on CC. |
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Post by sybawoods on Oct 24, 2022 7:29:00 GMT -5
IMHO,3 click needs separate league, analog stick and 3 click button are two different sports, my2cents This is a rocky road to go down i.m.h.o. Then we need to start separating people who play with a mouse vs a controller, someone using an elite controller vs a PS4 controller, someone using a big screen vs a tiny monitor, someone using two thumbs on their controller, vs someone using 2 fingers... |
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Post by SkyBlueBen on Oct 24, 2022 7:37:39 GMT -5
IMHO,3 click needs separate league, analog stick and 3 click button are two different sports, my2cents This is a rocky road to go down i.m.h.o. Then we need to start separating people who play with a mouse vs a controller, someone using an elite controller vs a PS4 controller, someone using a big screen vs a tiny monitor, someone using two thumbs on their controller, vs someone using 2 fingers... The 3 click is a different ball game to be fair. All the other control methods use a similar draw back and push through motion. I'm not saying 3 click is any easier or harder but it's most certainly a totally different way of playing. Personally I agree with the OP, needs it's own Society. Having said that I'll accept whatever TGCT deem fair. |
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jjbuzzotta
Amateur Golfer
Posts: 254
TGCT Name: Justin Buzzotta
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Post by jjbuzzotta on Oct 24, 2022 8:23:23 GMT -5
I think we are in a position with this game where there can be changes to the difficulty setup throughout the tours. Thus maybe the top two pro tours on legend - but with other settings being easier on Elite than Plat (eg possibly lie grid, yardage book, wind speed, Aim Marker) Then Kinetic on Master to be split into say 4 levels (K-A to K-D) - but having all those aids off. (effectively the old CC-Pro from TGC2) CC all on Master (say 8 tiers - the old CC-Am) - but with some / all of those aids back on. Thus you now get a gradual increase of difficulty as you rise through the tiers, more people in the 'pro tours'... And if people don't like the increased difficulty if they are promoted - well I hate to say it, but this is supposed to be a competitive setup, where everyone should be challenged by others who are around the same level as they are - rather than beating up on those who aren't as good as they are, week after week.
Edit: Beer League (forgot about it) - should be 3-click only
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mttJames
Caddy
Posts: 19
TGCT Name: BATTLEDEM0N69
Tour: Elite
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Post by mttJames on Oct 24, 2022 10:03:36 GMT -5
CC-C player from 2K21. Decided to give both Kinetic and CC a go again, started with Kinetic...
R1: -4
R2: -7
R3: -10
R4: -9
-30 which I'd be very happy with, then tried CC...
R1: -14
R2: -18 (best ever round)
Decided to stop there.
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lamonzz23
Caddy
Posts: 18
TGCT Name: Mike LaMonica
Tour: Kinetic
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Post by lamonzz23 on Oct 24, 2022 10:26:00 GMT -5
This is what a lot of people don’t seem to understand. It doesn’t matter the difficulty… The better golfers are almost always going be on top. “A rising tide lifts all boats” Making it easier or harder isn’t going to to close or separate the gap in skill. Ditto. Contrary to others on here I am finding master similar to 2k21, just because there aren't red fasts anymore doesn't mean you're not hitting bad shots. I find master extremely difficult and inconsistent, ruins the enjoyment completely for me on the career mode and societies. Again, the best will be the best either way, I vote pro for all tours except plat maybe. Disagree. The console disparities make the easier modes even harder for XB players. On pro, anyone that can keep a good tempo can go -15 because it’s point and shoot at the pin. Masters makes you play a more realistic version of golf so those who are more strategic will rise. |
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Post by j3ngs_ on Oct 24, 2022 10:41:22 GMT -5
I don't know what it is, but I feel like there is just a huge gap between pro and master again this year. I have no problem shooting -15 or better on Pro, but struggle to break par on master. Never seen anything like it.
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Post by CoinHen77 on Oct 24, 2022 11:50:05 GMT -5
I think we are in a position with this game where there can be changes to the difficulty setup throughout the tours. Thus maybe the top two pro tours on legend - but with other settings being easier on Elite than Plat (eg possibly lie grid, yardage book, wind speed, Aim Marker) Then Kinetic on Master to be split into say 4 levels (K-A to K-D) - but having all those aids off. (effectively the old CC-Pro from TGC2) CC all on Master (say 8 tiers - the old CC-Am) - but with some / all of those aids back on. Thus you now get a gradual increase of difficulty as you rise through the tiers, more people in the 'pro tours'... And if people don't like the increased difficulty if they are promoted - well I hate to say it, but this is supposed to be a competitive setup, where everyone should be challenged by others who are around the same level as they are - rather than beating up on those who aren't as good as they are, week after week.
Edit: Beer League (forgot about it) - should be 3-click only
This just makes way too much sense for it to actually happen, but I'm backing you 100% rob4590 . This also allows people to rise and fall as they play the game an inevitably increase the stats on their character. Everyone in here is commenting on how they're playing and how difficult the settings are, but I think everything really needs to be taken with a grain of salt as only a very small amount of people (pre-release and the grinders) have fully fitted golfers. I've been up and down all the pro tours over the past couple games, with brief stints in Plat that were TOUGH... but to be honest, those were some of the most rewarding rounds because i felt actual pressure and wasn't just going through the motions speed making birdies. In my eyes, difficulty is fine as long as it's fun, and so far I've felt that way across all the Legend test events. |
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Post by GW_Hope on Oct 24, 2022 12:52:30 GMT -5
PS5 Played elite, plat and TST - Pretty much gash in them all. No issues performance wise, even with rain. Didn't particularly like the rain round, but performed fine. Master swing is about right for my patience / tolerance, and think it's the way to go broadly. My legend swing round was after a bottle of wine and a few beers, but I didn't find the full swing tempo too bad, but the short game I think would be too frustrating to bother to try and play with for all my tour rounds. The best players are always going to rip it up, and there will be some that find ways to score incredibly, with whatever swing we have. Master for TGCT harmony IMO. I agree with Masters. It has the shot penalties and difficulty similar to TGC2. Not easy to be dead on without dispersion but with practice you will be rewarded. Legend has that annoying random feel to it. Masters I can sense the adjustment I need to make. |
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