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Post by yaters on Oct 11, 2022 14:57:00 GMT -5
Looking for any advice on the short game for this new iteration.
I haven't played this game in a long time and my first hole resulted in a max-score because I couldn't get out of a green side bunker. Shameful. It was all tempo based (Very Fast or Very Slow) where I couldn't get the ball elevated.
1. First request - any advice around the Splash shot in a bunker? (currently using Master Swing w/o power meter or vibration). How does that swing differ from other swing types, where I didn't seem to have such drastic tempo issues?
2. Second request - any thoughts in the 20-30-40 yard range in terms of using chip or flop? Any good chip for me in this game feels lucky right now. Maybe it is a preference thing and I just have to choose a path, but interested in opinions.
3. Last request - I used to have some silly formula in my head for putting. Don't want to go deep on that - but what's the general rule where to move your marker for uphill/downhill putts?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2022 15:40:59 GMT -5
Looking for any advice on the short game for this new iteration. I haven't played this game in a long time and my first hole resulted in a max-score because I couldn't get out of a green side bunker. Shameful. It was all tempo based (Very Fast or Very Slow) where I couldn't get the ball elevated. 1. First request - any advice around the Splash shot in a bunker? (currently using Master Swing w/o power meter or vibration). How does that swing differ from other swing types, where I didn't seem to have such drastic tempo issues? 2. Second request - any thoughts in the 20-30-40 yard range in terms of using chip or flop? Any good chip for me in this game feels lucky right now. Maybe it is a preference thing and I just have to choose a path, but interested in opinions. 3. Last request - I used to have some silly formula in my head for putting. Don't want to go deep on that - but what's the general rule where to move your marker for uphill/downhill putts? Thanks! The tempo changes with intent for partial shots, so the more you bring back the marker and slow your backswing down you also have to hit a slower tempo shot. Good place to practice the shots is chipping green using mulligans. Great place to learn distance feel for chip,splash and pitch shots. |
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Post by yaters on Oct 11, 2022 15:46:35 GMT -5
The tempo changes with intent for partial shots, so the more you bring back the marker and slow your backswing down you also have to hit a slower tempo shot. Good place to practice the shots is chipping green using mulligans. ok, so if I try to unpack this, you are saying that a partial shot will have a slower swing and therefore needs a slower matching tempo. That might only make sense in my head but I think I see what you are talking about. The key is to match the tempo throughout the swing |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2022 15:55:19 GMT -5
ok, so if I try to unpack this, you are saying that a partial shot will have a slower swing and therefore needs a slower matching tempo. That might only make sense in my head but I think I see what you are talking about. The key is to match the tempo throughout the swing Yeah it takes practice to slow the tempo down but it does give a slower backswing to help manage shorter chips. Partial pitch was my shot for 2 years as I didn't play splash outside of bunkers, you will learn a muscle memory for partial shots if you practice and they are very rewarding. I also noticed there is a bit of a roll out for splash bunker shots, maybe loft or spin needed to check the ball up out of sand, or just allow for the rollout. You can change club and back again to reset intent and hit normal tempo but the backswing will be fast. It was like this for 2K21 and I think it is the same for 2K23. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2022 15:57:36 GMT -5
ok, so if I try to unpack this, you are saying that a partial shot will have a slower swing and therefore needs a slower matching tempo. That might only make sense in my head but I think I see what you are talking about. The key is to match the tempo throughout the swing Experiment moving marker towards you which will slow your backswing down, the closer the marker to you and the slower your backswing the slower your tempo (forward swing speed) needs to be. |
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Post by yaters on Oct 11, 2022 16:06:47 GMT -5
ok, so if I try to unpack this, you are saying that a partial shot will have a slower swing and therefore needs a slower matching tempo. That might only make sense in my head but I think I see what you are talking about. The key is to match the tempo throughout the swing Experiment moving marker towards you which will slow your backswing down, the closer the marker to you and the slower your backswing the slower your tempo (forward swing speed) needs to be. Moving the marker towards you slows your backswing? Whoa...that might explain a ton of my struggles last evening. |
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Post by SloanerTW on Oct 11, 2022 18:37:44 GMT -5
90% of the bunkers you can chip out of
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Post by Doyley on Oct 11, 2022 22:48:06 GMT -5
90% of the bunkers you can chip out of 2K23 - splash only in bunkers 2K25 - no pitch, flop, chip, putt in bunkers
haha, I kid!
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Post by yaters on Oct 12, 2022 9:53:26 GMT -5
90% of the bunkers you can chip out of When I read this I thought "well that's cheap", but it's probably the most solid tip I've received yet. So thanks for the reminder of thinking outside the box a bit. I ruined a good round last evening taking four shots out of a bunker (likely not one I could chip out of though). I'm not great with tempo in general, but the splash shot type is giving me fits. |
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Post by Demonondalinks on Oct 12, 2022 9:53:43 GMT -5
90% of the bunkers you can chip out of Wish this weren't true. |
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Post by yaters on Oct 12, 2022 10:27:06 GMT -5
90% of the bunkers you can chip out of Wish this weren't true. Agreed. But it's weird how this game chooses where to emphasize tempo and the associated penalties for poor tempo. Zero tempo on putting, but severe penalty for chipping (which is essentially the same stroke...not exact...but close). I get it though, if you had no tempo associated with chipping the game would be way too easy. I find the game difficult, so I'm enjoying it. Also seeing people talking about how easy this version is, which baffles me. I'm happy with 60% GIR right now. |
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Post by Demonondalinks on Oct 12, 2022 10:38:40 GMT -5
Agreed. But it's weird how this game chooses where to emphasize tempo and the associated penalties for poor tempo. Zero tempo on putting, but severe penalty for chipping (which is essentially the same stroke...not exact...but close). I get it though, if you had no tempo associated with chipping the game would be way too easy. I find the game difficult, so I'm enjoying it. Also seeing people talking about how easy this version is, which baffles me. I'm happy with 60% GIR right now. Just warning you. I had a 5 minute period yesterday where every shot was a VF or VS. I quit game and came back a few mins later. I'd say it was server work being done. I hit a few duffs that like 10 feet. |
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Post by sanchez on Oct 12, 2022 11:31:48 GMT -5
I have found if you have a very short chip that you can't putt ie 5 yds aim quite a bit right as you nearly always get vf.
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Post by yaters on Oct 12, 2022 12:59:47 GMT -5
Just realized also that I'm level 14-15 or something but haven't done a single thing with fittings or skills or anything. That's not some advanced strategy I have - just completely forgot about them.
I did switch my archetype from Rhythm to Power just because I wanted hit some bombs.
I might have to join the sim crowd where none of that will matter and you can trust the honor system. Traditionally didn't like it because the putting makes zero sense to me (no matter how many times it is explained or videos I watch)
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Post by sanchez on Oct 12, 2022 13:51:41 GMT -5
Just realized also that I'm level 14-15 or something but haven't done a single thing with fittings or skills or anything. That's not some advanced strategy I have - just completely forgot about them. I did switch my archetype from Rhythm to Power just because I wanted hit some bombs. I might have to join the sim crowd where none of that will matter and you can trust the honor system. Traditionally didn't like it because the putting makes zero sense to me (no matter how many times it is explained or videos I watch) you are not alone as i think Michael Jackson said. But i digress..i struggle to putt on grids so as good as sim sounds to me i know i would never be good at that..you should try it i know you are a very good player..you might surprise yourself. |
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