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Post by SteelVike on Jun 25, 2022 12:29:56 GMT -5
I think this is a great idea. It will give a lot of players more incentive to play, especially for the average players in plat where our only goal each week is to make a cut because winning or even top 10 is out of the question. Big thanks for all that you and the TGC volunteers do for this community!
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Post by axelvonfersen on Jun 27, 2022 10:43:02 GMT -5
Could this be something to replace the currently hapless Beer League with? And while we're at it, maybe allow tour card holders on Beer as well?
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Post by JosiaDB on Jun 29, 2022 8:15:16 GMT -5
sounds cool.
regarding donations-
I donated what little I could while I was actively playing. I have no problem donating. When we went from master to pro, I stopped playing, so I stopped donating. No reason to donate to something if you aren't using it. I've often said if we go back to master, I'll start playing again, and thus start donating again.
That said, I think that the main tour should be donate only. If everyone that played gave only 5 bucks, things would be paid for. And the competition might be less people, but it would be people that actually cared enough to help. Thats just my thought.
So this sounds cool, but only if its master, it it stays pro then I wouldn't play but mainly because of that. I'd also be up for fun or crazy courses even.
thanks to all admins for doing this site, I think you guys do a great job, and hope you understand my positions!
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Post by OldManGaming606 on Jun 29, 2022 20:49:29 GMT -5
I would love to expand donation options in general as I feel there's a lot of cool things you could do there. Considering how tournament names are fairly generic currently (something something championship/invitational) I think a cool perk would be to donate to name one potentially Not against this at all Q, However, if the "donation" allows them to name the tournament after say a business or corporation, I don't believe it is any longer considered a donation. Instead, I believe it now becomes advertisement. Not sure what the legal ramifications would be if any. Surely out of 8000+ members or so there is a corporate attorney in the bunch. I'll donate to name the first one. Art of Resolution, LLC (where everyone wins of course) LOL |
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Post by inflames47 on Jun 30, 2022 6:29:11 GMT -5
I like the 'thinking out of the box' approach and I am all for it.
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Post by Coniglio on Jul 1, 2022 11:47:42 GMT -5
Hey Guys, Been a while since I've been plugged in, but re-engaging a bit more. Before I share this next crazy idea of mine, I want to give a bit shoutout to Scott and Jeff (Doyley and SmilingGoats), and all the guys volunteering behind the scenes that have kept this crazy idea of mine going for almost 8 years. Our initial goal of 500 when we started was shattered within the first 6 months of launching. Almost 40K players later who have joined this community at some time or another, we are still going strong! Thanks to all of the players that have generously donated in the past and especially this year to cover the costs. In the next week or so, we will be pushing changes to our donation platform that will allow you to see all the donors along with their donation levels (Gold, Silver, and Bronze), with the added ability to setup recurring donations. So now, for my idea. Idea: Build an internal official TGCT Handicapping system that mimics the GHIN. The Why: To allow players a fun alternative way to play in tournaments and compete against others in a fair, yet fun way! The How: * In no way, would the handicap events be a replacement in the "official" tour stops. * Only official completed/verified tour rounds will be used in the handicap rating. * Designers would be allowed to establish their own course rating and slope within certain guidelines that will be published for any course used on Tour. * Just like the real GHIN (Golf Handicap Information Network) you would need 20 official rounds before the handicap would publish. * The handicap would use your best 10 differentials in your last 20 rounds * Handicaps will be adjusted weekly. * Max handicap index will max out at 36.4 * Only official tour card holders would be eligible. What do we do with these handicaps?Great question. I would love to provide a fun alternative event each week (Think True Sim), that would allow everyone to complete but we will rank the leaderboard based on "net" score. I'm still thinking about how to limit the events so we are not playing against 2K people. Have thought of also only allowing entry for those that have donated a minimum amount of $5 to the community. (Currently we have only had 117 players donate at least $1 this season). I'm also floating around the idea of creating an internal challenge system on the site to allow you to matchmaker against others within +- handicap range and have relegated handicap leagues.. Just another crazy idea. Anyway, just trying to find some ways to pump some new and fresh ideas into the community. Now flood this thread with your thoughts and ideas! Yes. I don't play anymore so I would be happy to maybe do this, even with the donations. I would also love to also have something extra on top of that. Like the challenge system you mentioned. (I can't believe the game doesn't have something like that, nor that it doesn't let you choose what kind of opponents you want to have. Aka. Swing levels). It would be amazing to have a quick chat room, maybe built-in the forum or a side thing,where one could go and try to find someone to have a quick round with. If you ever do this, please send an email (if you can) for those like me, which aren't really in the site anymore. |
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Post by bmells33 on Jul 3, 2022 0:49:51 GMT -5
Devils advocate here....but isnt TGCT already broken down by skill level, Platinum thru the many levels of CC? It really is essentially handicapped already.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2022 15:33:22 GMT -5
Devils advocate here....but isnt TGCT already broken down by skill level, Platinum thru the many levels of CC? It really is essentially handicapped already. There is a huge disparity between the players within the tours, especially in CC where new quickly improving players race up through the tours. Having an accurate handicap allows any player to have a competitive match or tournament against any player on any tour. HB tried to design a handicap system with 2KPGA21 and a play mode for handicapped matches, but the handicap system has never worked properly. Part of the challenge of creating a handicap in this game is that in real golf, a players handicap (Index), is based off the differentials between the players score and course rating and currently we don’t have course ratings on courses. But I think we could use scoring average as a starting basis for handicap and then add an adjustment based on the tour level the player is on. |
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Post by martbloke on Jul 5, 2022 17:20:24 GMT -5
Devils advocate here....but isnt TGCT already broken down by skill level, Platinum thru the many levels of CC? It really is essentially handicapped already. There is a huge disparity between the players within the tours, especially in CC where new quickly improving players race up through the tours. Having an accurate handicap allows any player to have a competitive match or tournament against any player on any tour. HB tried to design a handicap system with 2KPGA21 and a play mode for handicapped matches, but the handicap system has never worked properly. Part of the challenge of creating a handicap in this game is that in real golf, a players handicap (Index), is based off the differentials between the players score and course rating and currently we don’t have course ratings on courses. But I think we could use scoring average as a starting basis for handicap and then add an adjustment based on the tour level the player is on. The HB HCP does work perfectly fine, it's the course ratings on user created courses that don't which are affecting the HCP. Anyhow, I don't see why a HCP system should be used on easy Pro settings here. If done correctly with realistic course ratings, then it would be better to do on a more skill relevant setting like Master. It's a great idea though. |
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Post by Q on Jul 5, 2022 17:22:43 GMT -5
Yeah, this is a big hurdle, i want to stress that the courses played on Plat right now are so ridiculously difficult, that a winning score during the US Open week (Barton Hills) was greater than -40 on a course that Im fairly certain no CC player could even break par on. Seriously I dare any CC or even Kinetic player to try it on default settings with high winds and you'll see the problem with handicaps based purely on scoring without course ratings |
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Post by martbloke on Jul 5, 2022 17:25:37 GMT -5
Yeah, this is a big hurdle, i want to stress that the courses played on Plat right now are so ridiculously difficult, that a winning score during the US Open week (Barton Hills) was greater than -40 on a course that Im fairly certain no CC player could even break par on. Seriously I dare any CC or even Kinetic player to try it on default settings with high winds and you'll see the problem with handicaps based purely on scoring without course ratings Hang on! I can't take this seriously if you're saying to play the course WITH HIGH WINDS. If the course is difficult, then there's no need to artificially up the difficulty with God powers. It should be difficult on default settings including normal/low winds. That makes a difficult course in my book. |
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Post by Q on Jul 5, 2022 19:32:57 GMT -5
Hang on! I can't take this seriously if you're saying to play the course WITH HIGH WINDS. If the course is difficult, then there's no need to artificially up the difficulty with God powers. It should be difficult on default settings including normal/low winds. That makes a difficult course in my book. It was the single most difficult course Ive ever scheduled, I also threw on High winds because Plat never plays more than one round below it these days. We're playing on pro, any course that would be as hard as this on default settings wouldnt even be considered TW because the course is tricked up so much. |
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Post by trailducker on Jul 6, 2022 1:59:29 GMT -5
Yeah, this is a big hurdle, i want to stress that the courses played on Plat right now are so ridiculously difficult, that a winning score during the US Open week (Barton Hills) was greater than -40 on a course that Im fairly certain no CC player could even break par on. Seriously I dare any CC or even Kinetic player to try it on default settings with high winds and you'll see the problem with handicaps based purely on scoring without course ratings Hang on! I can't take this seriously if you're saying to play the course WITH HIGH WINDS. If the course is difficult, then there's no need to artificially up the difficulty with God powers. It should be difficult on default settings including normal/low winds. That makes a difficult course in my book. Dude, you’re talking to the Platinum scheduler so I’m sure he knows what he’s talking about. Also Barton Hills is a chore to break par on low winds but he’s saying Plat players are so damn good even the most tricked up courses need high winds to challenge them. |
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Post by axelvonfersen on Jul 6, 2022 2:10:58 GMT -5
So essentially we need the Master swing to return now that HB has fixed the swing mechanics.
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Post by SkyBlueBen on Jul 6, 2022 2:33:32 GMT -5
So essentially we need the Master swing to return now that HB has fixed the swing mechanics. As somebody who complained about the severity of some of the Master penalties (short game especially), a lot, I agree. HB/2K eventually made the level playable, and enjoyable, for a hacker like me and I would be happy to see it return. Depends though on whether HB/2K drop a new game and then we’ll all be off on the rollercoaster again 🤣 |
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