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Post by nevadaballin on Apr 27, 2022 16:09:52 GMT -5
I’ve posted about this issue before. Being essentially an original member of TCGTours, I’m well aware of where my particular leaderboard is.
What I don’t know is the players in my flight from week to week. It’s easy to *say* ignore the leaderboard but when it is on the screen after every hole, it’s not a realistic ask.
The issue I was coming across the most is how a lot of players are unaware that there are top tier players using CC society setup for their own needs and are not connected to the CC flights they are on.
These players, a lot of them are newer player to this league, see those scores and get really discouraged. The mental impact is a real thing and it’s what causes all of the cheating accusations.
Personally I don’t care because I know what’s going on.
TGCTours should *not* have to create separate societies for each flight.
I am confused as to why the 3rd party participants don’t create their own society to play in using the easier CC course schedule?
If it’s the courses that are the main deal for them, recreate it in another Society. The schedule and conditions are all posted well ahead of time. Y’all just lazy or am I missing something? Lol.
Again, personally I don’t care. I’m more or less advocating a point that I understand from others.
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Post by sroel908 on Apr 27, 2022 16:21:48 GMT -5
What I don’t know is the players in my flight from week to week. It’s easy to *say* ignore the leaderboard but when it is on the screen after every hole, it’s not a realistic ask. Sure it is...like you said, all it takes is the realization that anyone can play in any society. Pro tour players, all CC players, and even those who don't have a TGCT account can hop in and play. It should be no surprise to anyone, even newer players, that societies in PGA 2K21 are open to basically anyone. If you signed up for TGCT, you should know the leaderboard for your flight is on the website, not in the game. If you're coming to the forums to complain about this, then you definitely should know how all this works. And even then, if you truly didn't know after all that, you should realize all this when others here tell you that's the case! I've been around TGCT for a long time, too...and never once, even back when I first entered events, did I look at the in-game scoreboard and get discouraged because I thought those scores where the ones I was playing against. I used the website for that, because it was clear to me up front where the scores I needed to worry about were posted.
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Post by nevadaballin on Apr 27, 2022 16:35:53 GMT -5
What I don’t know is the players in my flight from week to week. It’s easy to *say* ignore the leaderboard but when it is on the screen after every hole, it’s not a realistic ask. Sure it is...like you said, all it takes is the realization that anyone can play in any society. Pro tour players, all CC players, and even those who don't have a TGCT account can hop in and play. It should be no surprise to anyone, even newer players, that societies in PGA 2K21 are open to basically anyone. If you signed up for TGCT, you should know the leaderboard for your flight is on the website, not in the game. If you're coming to the forums to complain about this, then you definitely should know how all this works. And even then, if you truly didn't know after all that, you should realize all this when others here tell you that's the case! I've been around TGCT for a long time, too...and never once, even back when I first entered events, did I look at the in-game scoreboard and get discouraged because I thought those scores where the ones I was playing against. I used the website for that, because it was clear to me up front where the scores I needed to worry about were posted. That’s a lot if assuming of what new players should know or not know lol. And it’s not about you or your experience. Didn’t answer my question about the 3rd parties creating their own societies.
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Post by ErixonStone on Apr 27, 2022 16:49:18 GMT -5
I am confused as to why the 3rd party participants don’t create their own society to play in using the easier CC course schedule? If it’s the courses that are the main deal for them, recreate it in another Society. The schedule and conditions are all posted well ahead of time. Y’all just lazy or am I missing something? Lol. Societies we create ourselves are not cross-platform. The work would need to be done 3 times. Also, you would have to recruit admins from other platforms or lay out extra funds for copies of the game on all platforms.
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Post by sroel908 on Apr 27, 2022 17:03:14 GMT -5
Sure it is...like you said, all it takes is the realization that anyone can play in any society. Pro tour players, all CC players, and even those who don't have a TGCT account can hop in and play. It should be no surprise to anyone, even newer players, that societies in PGA 2K21 are open to basically anyone. If you signed up for TGCT, you should know the leaderboard for your flight is on the website, not in the game. If you're coming to the forums to complain about this, then you definitely should know how all this works. And even then, if you truly didn't know after all that, you should realize all this when others here tell you that's the case! I've been around TGCT for a long time, too...and never once, even back when I first entered events, did I look at the in-game scoreboard and get discouraged because I thought those scores where the ones I was playing against. I used the website for that, because it was clear to me up front where the scores I needed to worry about were posted. That’s a lot if assuming of what new players should know or not know lol. And it’s not about you or your experience. I am assuming that, if you went to the TGCT tours website to sign up and then went thru with qualification, you'd see that the scoreboards for each flight are housed there on the site, considering you get a specific CC flight card and not a general "Challenge Circuit" card. On the website, CC is broken out by A-L, again, not as a general "Challenge Circuit" flight. And I brought up my experience because you said, "I’ve posted about this issue before. Being essentially an original member of TCGTours, I’m well aware of where my particular leaderboard is." So I thought I'd share my experience, too. I was just saying that, like you, not only do I as long time member of TGCT know where to look for my flight scoreboard now, but I never once DIDN'T know where to look for my flight. I knew it was on the website, right from the start. It's quite clear how this works. Sure, not everyone's situation is exactly the same. And maybe you don't get it right off the bat. But after one week of playing, how would you not know where to look, and that the rest of the in-game scores are not related to your CC group?
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Post by nevadaballin on Apr 27, 2022 17:06:42 GMT -5
I am confused as to why the 3rd party participants don’t create their own society to play in using the easier CC course schedule? If it’s the courses that are the main deal for them, recreate it in another Society. The schedule and conditions are all posted well ahead of time. Y’all just lazy or am I missing something? Lol. Societies we create ourselves are not cross-platform. The work would need to be done 3 times. Also, you would have to recruit admins from other platforms or lay out extra funds for copies of the game on all platforms. Ok that makes sense and answers my question, thanks. I have a suggestion to add a bit of that info in the message section of the CC society. In those boxes on the right side. Just to let ppl know, and remind others, as to why the leaderboard is the way it is.
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Post by nevadaballin on Apr 27, 2022 17:09:24 GMT -5
That’s a lot if assuming of what new players should know or not know lol. And it’s not about you or your experience. I am assuming that, if you went to the TGCT tours website to sign up and then went thru with qualification, you'd see that the scoreboards for each flight are housed there on the site, considering you get a specific CC flight card and not a general "Challenge Circuit" card. On the website, CC is broken out by A-L, again, not as a general "Challenge Circuit" flight. And I brought up my experience because you said, "I’ve posted about this issue before. Being essentially an original member of TCGTours, I’m well aware of where my particular leaderboard is." So I thought I'd share my experience, too. I was just saying that, like you, not only do I as long time member of TGCT know where to look for my flight scoreboard now, but I never once DIDN'T know where to look for my flight. I knew it was on the website, right from the start. It's quite clear how this works. Sure, not everyone's situation is exactly the same. And maybe you don't get it right off the bat. But after one week of playing, how would you not know where to look, and that the rest of the in-game scores are not related to your CC group? There are some people who don’t even know where to find out what flight they qualified for when they first get here. Again, personally don’t care but I understand the concern of the others.
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Post by sroel908 on Apr 27, 2022 17:19:30 GMT -5
I am assuming that, if you went to the TGCT tours website to sign up and then went thru with qualification, you'd see that the scoreboards for each flight are housed there on the site, considering you get a specific CC flight card and not a general "Challenge Circuit" card. On the website, CC is broken out by A-L, again, not as a general "Challenge Circuit" flight. And I brought up my experience because you said, "I’ve posted about this issue before. Being essentially an original member of TCGTours, I’m well aware of where my particular leaderboard is." So I thought I'd share my experience, too. I was just saying that, like you, not only do I as long time member of TGCT know where to look for my flight scoreboard now, but I never once DIDN'T know where to look for my flight. I knew it was on the website, right from the start. It's quite clear how this works. Sure, not everyone's situation is exactly the same. And maybe you don't get it right off the bat. But after one week of playing, how would you not know where to look, and that the rest of the in-game scores are not related to your CC group? There are some people who don’t even know where to find out what flight they qualified for when they first get here. Again, personally don’t care but I understand the concern of the others. I can understand if someone legitimately doesn't know something and asks for that information. I enjoy helping others and want everyone here to have the best time possible. But the people who were complaining here in this thread were saying things like there is "fake scoring (possibly hacked)" on these leaderboards, and that non-CC players should "Get out of your momma’s basement and do something else instead of tying up leaderboards of average joe tgc players". I mean, c'mon.
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Post by nevadaballin on Apr 27, 2022 18:15:27 GMT -5
There are some people who don’t even know where to find out what flight they qualified for when they first get here. Again, personally don’t care but I understand the concern of the others. I can understand if someone legitimately doesn't know something and asks for that information. I enjoy helping others and want everyone here to have the best time possible. But the people who were complaining here in this thread were saying things like there is "fake scoring (possibly hacked)" on these leaderboards, and that non-CC players should "Get out of your momma’s basement and do something else instead of tying up leaderboards of average joe tgc players". I mean, c'mon. Yep. Saw that. Kind of why I chimed in. Just wanted to redirect to what I thought was a legit gripe (discouraged players feeling overwhelmed) and the question I had that E answered. I forget that TGCTours has some society super powers 🙂 I do think an informational disclaimer in the society message box in-game that explains why those scores are there would help.
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Post by sroel908 on Apr 27, 2022 18:42:50 GMT -5
I can understand if someone legitimately doesn't know something and asks for that information. I enjoy helping others and want everyone here to have the best time possible. But the people who were complaining here in this thread were saying things like there is "fake scoring (possibly hacked)" on these leaderboards, and that non-CC players should "Get out of your momma’s basement and do something else instead of tying up leaderboards of average joe tgc players". I mean, c'mon. Yep. Saw that. Kind of why I chimed in. Just wanted to redirect to what I thought was a legit gripe (discouraged players feeling overwhelmed) and the question I had that E answered. I forget that TGCTours has some society super powers 🙂 I do think an informational disclaimer in the society message box in-game that explains why those scores are there would help. Ok, fair enough. And I agree...some more info within the society home page would probably not hurt.
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Post by Giraffe72 on Apr 28, 2022 3:37:25 GMT -5
I would say that everyone using this forum is well aware of how the Tours work or at the very least has come to the right place to find out. "Boo hoo, people are better than me so they're either cheating or living in Mummy's basement. horusphoenix is making me feel inferior again, BAN HIM!!" Honestly, it's pathetic. 🤷 And anyone who doesn't know this site exists either can't or doesn't want to follow the very simple instructions stickied on every society front page, so that's on them.
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Post by SkyBlueBen on Apr 28, 2022 5:35:51 GMT -5
Best thread I've read in ages blimey really? I play CC society as part of the HTF run society and nobody winges and moans about my Crapster scores showing up on IN GAME leaderboard all I know is, that my name and scores do not show up on any CC leaderboard on TGCT Site. As previously mentioned anybody from John O Groats to Timbuktu can play any given society within the game and I, like you have no control over that, unless you are President of an in game society. I've heard it on the grapevine that the lower PS players are actively encouraging you to play CC to make them feel better about themselves Joking aside, I can see why HTF use CC despite the courses probably being too easy for them for the reasons stated above. A lot of backbreaking work to set up a cross platform society that caters for 60 players. Me? I like to see the better (non CC) players on the in game leaderboard because it gives me an idea of how well I'm doing. I strive to get as near as them as possible because the closer I get the benefit is seen on the only leaderboards that matter, my CC division and more importantly The Brew Crew which makes Rounds 3 and 4 worthwhile even when I miss the cut.
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Post by timh on Apr 28, 2022 12:02:21 GMT -5
A few points to make. Most of the folks showing up on the in game leader board I know or know of. I'll see someone shooting lights out and recognize that person belonging to Platinum or Elite and assume that they are playing a society or just casual play. BTW...they should be lighting up the boards based on their skills, but it certainly doesn't bother me. Again, it's people that I know or know of.
I did the reverse this week. I went to the Platinum society and played round 1 for this week. Shot crap but enjoyed the challenge. Next week I plan to play the Beer League society just to play on Axel's CC of Charleston tour course. Played his Lidar version and enjoyed it very much.
With due respect for the OP of this thread, it can work both ways. It's the willingness to find different avenues to enjoy this game regardless of one's tier placement.
In the end, it's just a video game.
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Post by Brenelan on Apr 28, 2022 12:14:25 GMT -5
A few points to make. Most of the folks showing up on the in game leader board I know or know of. I'll see someone shooting lights out and recognize that person belonging to Platinum or Elite and assume that they are playing a society or just casual play. BTW...they should be lighting up the boards based on their skills, but it certainly doesn't bother me. Again, it's people that I know or know of. I did the reverse this week. I went to the Platinum society and played round 1 for this week. Shot crap but enjoyed the challenge. Next week I plan to play the Beer League society just to play on Axel's CC of Charleston tour course. Played his Lidar version and enjoyed it very much. With due respect for the OP of this thread, it can work both ways. It's the willingness to find different avenues to enjoy this game regardless of one's tier placement. In the end, it's just a video game. Yeah, I tend to play the Plat rounds every week just to see where my game's at, and I use Beer League tourney as warm up rounds throughout the week. Also, the worry about Plat/Kinetic/Elite players crowding the in-game CC tourney scoreboard seems nonsensical to me. If I'm in a CC division, there are 11 other CC division's players competing in the same society. So my in-game leaderboard is going to be a mishmash of people that I'm mostly not competing against regardless. Agree with the poster above, maybe just adding a few sentences on the TGC site explaining the in-game scoreboards might help a few people - but this is really a non-problem IMO.
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Post by horusphoenix on Apr 28, 2022 13:15:30 GMT -5
I would say that everyone using this forum is well aware of how the Tours work or at the very least has come to the right place to find out. "Boo hoo, people are better than me so they're either cheating or living in Mummy's basement. horusphoenix is making me feel inferior again, BAN HIM!!" Honestly, it's pathetic. 🤷 And anyone who doesn't know this site exists either can't or doesn't want to follow the very simple instructions stickied on every society front page, so that's on them.
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