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Post by axelvonfersen on Jan 19, 2022 8:05:01 GMT -5
The ultra tour? I agree and it should be open to everyone already on a tour. Agreed. Similar to the way TST is set up with you being able to play both a Master swing league and your usual TGCT rounds. Doyley pretty please, with sugar on top.
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Post by Art Vandelay on Jan 19, 2022 8:23:37 GMT -5
The ultra tour? I agree and it should be open to everyone already on a tour. Agreed. Similar to the way TST is set up with you being able to play both a Master swing league and your usual TGCT rounds. With the aids of course, otherwise it would be TST. Might regenerate interest. Onward?
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Post by fransslabak on Jan 19, 2022 8:30:41 GMT -5
The ultra tour? I agree and it should be open to everyone already on a tour. Agreed. Similar to the way TST is set up with you being able to play both a Master swing league and your usual TGCT rounds. Agreed!
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Post by axelvonfersen on Jan 19, 2022 8:41:06 GMT -5
Straight up TGC Tours settings from last year.
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Post by moneyman273 on Jan 19, 2022 10:40:27 GMT -5
Let's be honest here.
This version of the game has been horrid from the beginning. From the released game not even close to being complete (full of bugs) to server tweaks, then untweaks, then errors and bugs that STILL effect the authenticity of this game.
Without a doubt, out of all of the TGC games, this is the one I've played the least and I have no regrets in doing so as it's been a trash game pretty much from the get go.
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Post by moneyman273 on Jan 19, 2022 10:50:37 GMT -5
Straight up TGC Tours settings from last year. Let's not forget that Doyley and company changed the difficulty to Pro in order to increase attendance (which it did) and egregiously, HB did a server update a few days before the season started that basically reversed/eliminated the horrid distance lost on a red fast/slow. They did everything they could for the good of Tours and the community but it almost felt like HB did that server reversal on purpose regarding the timing of it. Plus, no other platform but PS will be able to consistently win/top 10/25 etc. Is what it is there. I think everyone would agree that if the swing difficulty were to stay the same throughout the remainder of this game's life cycle, Tours should be at master difficulty. That by no means was anyone at TGCT's fault, the blame lies with a crap game HB/2K have spit out that has never been right to begin with.
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Post by fransslabak on Jan 19, 2022 12:24:52 GMT -5
Can we maybe not have yet another discussion about HB and so on and use this thread to focus on an apparent wish among TGCTOURS players to consider changing the beer league into a master swing league in which we could play alongside our regular tour rounds… so as a request for something we would love instead of discussing what’s wrong with HB/the game again.
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Post by sandsaver01 on Jan 19, 2022 12:56:55 GMT -5
Can we maybe not have yet another discussion about HB and so on and use this thread to focus on an apparent wish among TGCTOURS players to consider changing the beer league into a master swing league in which we could play alongside our regular tour rounds… so as a request for something we would love instead of discussing what’s wrong with HB/the game again. Frans I think the idea of changing Beer League to a Masters League is fine. I probably would not join it though because it would basically be an extension of the Platinum/Elite brackets with those players occupying the top 50-100 spots. What would us scrubs have to play for?
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Post by fransslabak on Jan 19, 2022 13:24:36 GMT -5
Can we maybe not have yet another discussion about HB and so on and use this thread to focus on an apparent wish among TGCTOURS players to consider changing the beer league into a master swing league in which we could play alongside our regular tour rounds… so as a request for something we would love instead of discussing what’s wrong with HB/the game again. Frans I think the idea of changing Beer League to a Masters League is fine. I probably would not join it though because it would basically be an extension of the Platinum/Elite brackets with those players occupying the top 50-100 spots. What would us scrubs have to play for? Fair point.
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Post by moneyman273 on Jan 19, 2022 14:53:20 GMT -5
Can we maybe not have yet another discussion about HB and so on and use this thread to focus on an apparent wish among TGCTOURS players to consider changing the beer league into a master swing league in which we could play alongside our regular tour rounds… so as a request for something we would love instead of discussing what’s wrong with HB/the game again. Original post had nothing to do with an 'apparent wish among TGCTOURS players to consider the beer league into a master swing league...........' OP indicated he wasn't having fun with the game anymore. I said what I said and I have every right to say what I said.
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Post by SkyBlueBen on Jan 19, 2022 15:38:42 GMT -5
Can we maybe not have yet another discussion about HB and so on and use this thread to focus on an apparent wish among TGCTOURS players to consider changing the beer league into a master swing league in which we could play alongside our regular tour rounds… so as a request for something we would love instead of discussing what’s wrong with HB/the game again. Frans I think the idea of changing Beer League to a Masters League is fine. I probably would not join it though because it would basically be an extension of the Platinum/Elite brackets with those players occupying the top 50-100 spots. What would us scrubs have to play for? I'd argue that TST is like that but I still enjoy my rounds every week. We'd play simply for pleasure! To be fair I was happy that TGCT went Pro initially but the latest patch changed my view of Master level and I enjoy playing it nowadays. Perhaps if a Master swing league proved popular enough it could be flighted? The process of promotion and demotion from what I see is reasonably automatic and only requires intervention when something goes wrong. I'm not suggesting more work for the TGCT staff, only if it was possible with minimal input.
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Post by martbloke on Jan 19, 2022 16:02:49 GMT -5
I mean my preference would be for the tours to go back to Master but that ain't gonna happen. My 2nd preference is for the option to have the tours open to Pro and Master but that is not possible from the society options I believe - shame...unless the TGC peeps either wanna make it open on the premise they only accept Pro or Master swing or create new societies that pull in Master but that's unfair on them.
That of course leaves the Beer league to change to Master but then it's 1 league with no promos and demos so seems a bit plain Jane.
My last option is not to play haha. I just knew that yes Pro would get more peeps playing, but it quickly turns sour as there's no real skill and challenge that tee to green gets boring and turns into a putting contest. Ah well. Maybe the next game will be better for cross platform play? Maybe?
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Post by greyosprey on Jan 19, 2022 16:59:56 GMT -5
Some quick thoughts. 1. I could be wrong, but I thought societies could be set to "open" swing difficulty, allowing people to choose pro, Masters, Legend....rookie . Peeps on both sides would probably be against that. 2. There is a TGCTours (TBA) still hanging out there. I'm assuming there is one for each platform, so technically, you could have a Masters "funner" and not have to change the Beer League. That being said, I've mentioned using it as a Legend "funner" league in the past and got no traction with it. I'm guessing it would have no website support as far as rankings, leaderboard, etc, but there could be a society thread created where peeps could follow things. Maybe even someone posting leaderboards for the various platforms. 4. People would have to go into with the understanding that Pro level players will be playing and shooting great scores, relegating avg/casual players to the very bottom of the totem pole. Take a look at TST's leaderboard for an example of what to expect, with the exception that there will probably be a larger fall off/gap from top to bottom. 5. Course selection/set-up. Anyone that's ventured into the Pro societies knows that the greenskeeper(s) have been plagued by a red fire ant infestation for years. They play some pretty challenging courses/conditions/pins/etc. So selecting a course that appeases both ends of the spectrum will be impossible. 6. At current rate of donations, it's probably all a mute point. If you see Jeff's comment from Nov 29th, not reaching the donation goal would end TGCTours. I'm not sure what the deadline is - when the donations dry up? End of season? I guess that's for Jeff and/or Scott to advise if/when they feel the need to do so. 7. Playstation players should be required to use their hdcp's. Especially in TST so I can make a cut!
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Post by liebs44 on Jan 19, 2022 18:07:35 GMT -5
Can we maybe not have yet another discussion about HB and so on and use this thread to focus on an apparent wish among TGCTOURS players to consider changing the beer league into a master swing league in which we could play alongside our regular tour rounds… so as a request for something we would love instead of discussing what’s wrong with HB/the game again. Frans I think the idea of changing Beer League to a Masters League is fine. I probably would not join it though because it would basically be an extension of the Platinum/Elite brackets with those players occupying the top 50-100 spots. What would us scrubs have to play for? Why couldn't they exclude Platinum, Elite & Kinetic and make it only for CC & Beer League players only.
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Post by martbloke on Jan 20, 2022 17:39:37 GMT -5
Some quick thoughts. 1. I could be wrong, but I thought societies could be set to "open" swing difficulty, allowing people to choose pro, Masters, Legend....rookie . Peeps on both sides would probably be against that. 2. There is a TGCTours (TBA) still hanging out there. I'm assuming there is one for each platform, so technically, you could have a Masters "funner" and not have to change the Beer League. That being said, I've mentioned using it as a Legend "funner" league in the past and got no traction with it. I'm guessing it would have no website support as far as rankings, leaderboard, etc, but there could be a society thread created where peeps could follow things. Maybe even someone posting leaderboards for the various platforms. 4. People would have to go into with the understanding that Pro level players will be playing and shooting great scores, relegating avg/casual players to the very bottom of the totem pole. Take a look at TST's leaderboard for an example of what to expect, with the exception that there will probably be a larger fall off/gap from top to bottom. 5. Course selection/set-up. Anyone that's ventured into the Pro societies knows that the greenskeeper(s) have been plagued by a red fire ant infestation for years. They play some pretty challenging courses/conditions/pins/etc. So selecting a course that appeases both ends of the spectrum will be impossible. 6. At current rate of donations, it's probably all a mute point. If you see Jeff's comment from Nov 29th, not reaching the donation goal would end TGCTours. I'm not sure what the deadline is - when the donations dry up? End of season? I guess that's for Jeff and/or Scott to advise if/when they feel the need to do so. 7. Playstation players should be required to use their hdcp's. Especially in TST so I can make a cut! What happened to number 3? haha. Some good points and I knew they would just up the conditions to balance the ease of the swing. Some may think that's good but for me it's so artificial and annoying because of it. The majority if the challenge should be the course itself where playing in even mildish conditions, it can be somewhat of a challenge depending on the pin positions. Having to up firmness and speeds to add challenge to the course that otherwise would be a sitting duck just means the swing is waaaay too easy offering very little dispersion that golf has and needs to be enjoyable. It's about hitting (executing) that good shot which for most, Pro eliminates IMO - not for all, but for most. Ah well. Just glad that I wasn't playing since they changed otherwise I would've gone mad! haha Is TST still Pro? If so, still lacking on the TS part of TST I see!
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