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Post by GW_Hope on Jan 16, 2022 1:45:43 GMT -5
I don’t post much anymore. I’m having a hard time just playing my tour rounds to keep some type of feel for the game just hoping for a new edition to come out. I really hope we hear something soon. Why it’s not fun is I am not a math player anymore, I played that way and was effective but it wasn’t fun. I am purely a feel player now and could hold my own because my swing consistency was pretty good even with masters swing. I was able to be competitive that way. I know I could develop the math to get closer to the pin and learn the clicks and read the greens but I just have no motivation to do so. I miss the skill aspect of The Golf Club. This just feels like Rory II to me now. The reason the I came to TGC Tours in the first place was For a challenge. I have held out on this post because I know it means nothing to most but I can’t believe I’m alone in these thoughts. I’ll keep playing my tour rounds but that’s about all I play now. It’s sad, I used to play 4-5 societies event day!
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Post by Art Vandelay on Jan 16, 2022 1:56:30 GMT -5
I get you. I've always been a feel player but I've never been great (was good enough one week to get a W but that's it).
For me it IS the society aspect that keeps me here but just from a forum perspective.
I still love the game, maybe because I can't crank out sub 60 rounds at will.
Hope you find your passion again for the game, otherwise it is more of a chore than fun, right?
Onward!
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Post by fransslabak on Jan 16, 2022 1:58:50 GMT -5
I don’t post much anymore. I’m having a hard time just playing my tour rounds to keep some type of feel for the game just hoping for a new edition to come out. I really hope we here something soon. Why it’s not fun is I am not a math player anymore, I played that way and was effective but it wasn’t fun. I am purely a feel player now and could hold my own because my swing consistency was pretty good even with masters swing. I was able to be competitive that way. I know I could develop the math to get closer to the pin and learn the clicks and read the greens but I just have no motivation to do so. I miss the skill aspect of The Golf Club. This just feels like Rory II to me now. The reason the I came to TGC Tours in the first place was For a challenge. I have held out on this post because I know it means nothing to most but I can’t believe I’m alone in these thoughts. I’ll keep playing my tour rounds but that’s about all I play now. It’s sad, I used to play 4-5 societies event day! You are most certainly not alone - feel player as well and had good tempo on Masters, which got me to Platinum and was climbing the WGR. My tempo was my strength, my putting my weakness. Now that everyone hits it straight and close… and the forums on the regular tours have just gone silent… I understand and agree with the decision to go to pro but it has turned playing my rounds into just not trying to suck instead of enjoying the challenge… 😩 For example, first two rounds of Plat this week: a few missed putts on the slippery greens, -19 after two, and another missed cut… pffff
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Post by trentmcneely on Jan 16, 2022 3:53:50 GMT -5
Nah the game feels like a chore now for me. I go pick up the controller Monday or Tuesday and there are already like 10 people sub -30 in plat. This week I started bad with a couple missed tempos and couldn't make a putt so had a -3 front 9, and I know that's just it, I already can't win. Literally if I birdied every hole the rest of the tourney I wouldn't have won. If you're not within like 3 of the lead after 2 you don't have a shot because there's just no ground to make up anymore. But that's just the way it is now. As a wise man once said, "Git Good".
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Post by up mup kupen nup on Jan 18, 2022 2:43:18 GMT -5
Hmm... I'm a feel player as well, so I feel like I'm concerned to a certain extent.
I think the game is a blast! I wouldn't mind if it were a little more difficult in terms of executing the right swing (legend diff with pro swing grey area and a smoother distribution of misses, as has been discussed here plenty of times), but there's many Master societies out there if I want some of that challenge.
On TGCTours, I have always enjoyed competing with the mindset of trying to get as far as I can with my approach of playing the game. I did that when the red fast was available (going for perfects), I did it in previous TGC games when I couldn't get out of CC-B for a full season, and I do it now that math players seem to be taking over. I just moved down from Plat to Elite last week, and instead of being bothered, I just enjoy the competition in Elite for as long as I stay there. A balanced competition where everyone plays exactly the same game is not feasible anyway (Hello XBoxers!), so I think it's better not letting yourself be dragged down by that.
As for forum activity, I noticed that' I've been drawn a little more to Discord recently.
Cheers and good luck in finding that motivation again!
Edit: And this, ladies and gentlemen, is my 2000th post! 🥳🥳🥳
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Post by axelvonfersen on Jan 18, 2022 3:39:36 GMT -5
If we are to keep the pro-swing tours, I think a Master swing tour would be swell. Maybe with a Tier A and Tier B. Knowing that a bogey has ruined your entire weekend and you'll never able stand a chance to regain those strokes lost is just boring.
But then again the participation numbers are up and up so I guess we're in the minority. It's just not as fun and the feeling of accomplishment after an eagle is just gone.
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Post by Craig / Hendomedes on Jan 18, 2022 3:39:39 GMT -5
Similar boat to you guys. I don't play JUST on feel because I'm sure I do some subconscious basic math when I see the wind and lie just from playing so much but yeah nothing overly overt. AND I play on Xbox so there's that.
Fwiw I think for me personally I just can't view TGCT as anything other than a bit of fun now because without being able to play wired you simply can't compete on the top tour consistently even on Pro swing. The misses are still different enough coupled with the punishing courses to make it simply too different a game. Not that winning is everything of course but that coupled with the fact I also don't enjoy Pro swing anywhere near as much as Masters even on Xbox means I both can't compete at that level I climbed to and find it too easy scoring wise to be enjoyable.
And I find some of the courses needed now on Pro to be closer to over the limit but that's just personal preference and I totally get the reasoning behind creating those designs and making those selections.
I've just been dipping in for four or five rounds a week on Xbox True Sim Masters societies and Band of Brothers for some team-based Pro swing and still having fun on them though.
Unfortunately I think the possibility of wired means it'll always be this way for Xbox players (no-ones fault, it's possible, of course people will do it, why wouldn't they), and the popularity of the game means people will do the math so feel players will feel up against it also (no-ones fault etc...) So more and more I do think the whole notion of TGCT may fall by the wayside as sad as that makes me as a player since TGC2.
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Post by SkyBlueBen on Jan 18, 2022 3:58:20 GMT -5
I've given up worrying about TGCT. I play by feel and that ain't changing. 20 minutes max per round suits me (even in TST). Sometimes I get lucky, sometimes I don't. BUT. The true enjoyment I get from the game is now focused away from TGCT and THE CUT. If I make it fine, if I don't fine, because all that matters is those scores count for The Brew Crew (team based comp based around TGCT scores). TST rounds I love the courses chosen, if I make the cut it's a bonus and the final 2 rounds get to count.
I'm a PC player but I've also upgraded my XB recently and got myself involved in Band of Brothers, another team based set up. This, along with The Brew Crew make the forum's worth visiting and have retained my love of the game. And the randomness of the XB adds another level of challenge!!
There's plenty of fun out there but you need to go out looking for it nowadays.
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Post by up mup kupen nup on Jan 18, 2022 4:18:47 GMT -5
Haha thanks for the reminder SkyBlueBen! Soooo... GW_Hope there's a team competition for Pro Tour players as well if you're interested! I happen to run it.
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Post by Griz891 on Jan 18, 2022 5:18:39 GMT -5
It's one of those deals for me that when I commit to something I'm going to finish it out regardless. It's not any fun anymore for sure!!
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Post by hammers1man on Jan 18, 2022 15:30:17 GMT -5
The subject here is feel but when you have a short game where virtually every shot is a full shot where you cycle through distances per club and a shot shaper to fine tune that shot stone dead. Since when does a chip shot have a back stop in real life or do we play different clubs for distance with a wide open clubface for splash or flop shots. The splash shot takes all the skill out the short game, it plays unrealistically out of fairway/rough and makes the short game so easy and forgiving, it's worse than the flop from previous games. Want to make the game more challenging on every level if you miss a green don't play the splash outside the bunkers as it makes the short game brain dead with little skill or imagination needed. Learn some partial shots and feel. 17 yards out should I play a partial LW pitch or a tough chip into the upslope. All of a sudden that shot is not a given, it takes some skill and imagination and it starts to feel more like golf than using an arcade dart shot to get you out of trouble. Too much about set up than execution if you play a skill level that is not right for you, tempo should be tough or you go up a difficulty and the short game should not be dart board golf with that god awful splash shot. To the original poster try playing the game on master difficulty (as you said more your level) and only play splash inside bunkers and you will see a game more about feel.
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Post by greyosprey on Jan 18, 2022 18:20:31 GMT -5
I don’t post much anymore. I’m having a hard time just playing my tour rounds to keep some type of feel for the game just hoping for a new edition to come out. I really hope we hear something soon. Why it’s not fun is I am not a math player anymore, I played that way and was effective but it wasn’t fun. I am purely a feel player now and could hold my own because my swing consistency was pretty good even with masters swing. I was able to be competitive that way. I know I could develop the math to get closer to the pin and learn the clicks and read the greens but I just have no motivation to do so. I miss the skill aspect of The Golf Club. This just feels like Rory II to me now. The reason the I came to TGC Tours in the first place was For a challenge. I have held out on this post because I know it means nothing to most but I can’t believe I’m alone in these thoughts. I’ll keep playing my tour rounds but that’s about all I play now. It’s sad, I used to play 4-5 societies event day! You're definitely not alone. As a more casual xbox player, my enjoyment and desire to play the game has diminished drastically. I've reduced or eliminated all "mandatory" society rounds with the exception of CC Tour (2-4 rds). Outside of that, I treat the remaining TGCTours societies, including the [Pro Tour] TST society, as open societies and play a round or two of each and move on. Initially, I was in favor of the move to Pro difficulty, but in hindsight, it's turned into a "competitive" arcade birdie fest.
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Post by axelvonfersen on Jan 19, 2022 4:35:14 GMT -5
With numbers in Beer League dwindling and now dipping below 100 each week, perhaps that league would serve a greater purpose as a Master Swing League for those wanting to play that swing. I know I would.
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Post by crunchshark on Jan 19, 2022 7:35:27 GMT -5
With numbers in Beer League dwindling and now dipping below 100 each week, perhaps that league would serve a greater purpose as a Master Swing League for those wanting to play that swing. I know I would. The ultra tour? I agree and it should be open to everyone already on a tour.
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Post by SkyBlueBen on Jan 19, 2022 8:02:25 GMT -5
With numbers in Beer League dwindling and now dipping below 100 each week, perhaps that league would serve a greater purpose as a Master Swing League for those wanting to play that swing. I know I would. The ultra tour? I agree and it should be open to everyone already on a tour. Agreed. Similar to the way TST is set up with you being able to play both a Master swing league and your usual TGCT rounds.
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