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Post by zzfr33b1rdzz on Sept 28, 2021 9:16:59 GMT -5
It's a shame this came out AFTER season 8 started. REALLY wish we could've stayed on Master swing as that, IMO, was the separation factor. CC Tour - 2 round -10 Season 8 = miss cut, 2 round -10 Season 7 = make cut and in top 30 or so.. I know TGCT was not really concerned about the increase in scoring - but what will happen now is I believe participation will increase initially, but then folks will get frustrated shooting 2 round -15's and missing the cut - participation will then drop off again and the tours (at least in CC) will be even worse if there are only 80 people playing the cut line will be somewhere around 50 making it even harder to get anywhere. Will need to play a flawless round and average AT LEAST -9 to even think about making cuts..
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karacakes
Amateur Golfer
Posts: 174
TGCT Name: Kara Santos
Tour: Platinum
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Post by karacakes on Sept 28, 2021 9:18:37 GMT -5
Seriously. This is ridiculous. So many months overdue these buffs to the swing. Always just months later than it should be. Would have been a much more nuanced debate on switching to pro from master's if these buffs came out earlier. Sigh.
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Post by parbuster1962 on Sept 28, 2021 9:27:03 GMT -5
TGC Tours back to Master please!!
It boggles the mind that 2k would not have given some advance notice on this change to TGCTours. Hll they don't even mention the swing change on the patch notes.
2k/HB is truly useless, this is basic customer service. They deserve to lose customers to EA if this is how they continue to treat their loyal players.
If you want to play TGCTours Masters settings join Global Golf Tour Master which is available on PS4
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Post by sroel908 on Sept 28, 2021 9:45:17 GMT -5
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Post by catcherman22 on Sept 28, 2021 9:48:26 GMT -5
This doesn’t change the initial reason why we moved to pro in the first place… it didn’t change anything about the gray fast zone, just the penalty level.
So for the reason why we moved to pro hasn’t changed… so neither should we. Moving to pro is still the right move. It’s just like we said… we won’t see much increase in scores at the top, but it brings a whole bunch more people Into the fold.
Those who worried about needing to shoot -70’s to win are being shown to be unwarrented
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Post by moneyman273 on Sept 28, 2021 9:55:43 GMT -5
They've addressed my real bugbear with the ridiculous penalties (imo) on approach/partial/pitches etc so from that point of view I'm happy with the changes. Now if only they could limit the DS4 controller to the same constraints as the XB controller and they'd be on a winner!!This is mostly the true issue going on. But it deserves some nuance in the reviews of nuance. In the end in this purely a hypothetical situation and I stress that, so would we here at TGCTours accept some random results in reducing PS results to XBox levels? For me, what happens on XBox is a flaw in some unknown part of its base design within this game. I am of the opinion to fix this flaw rather than reduce the results of the more accurate results on PS4/5 because no one really wants "random" for the sake of random. I am playing on PS5 with the DualSense (PS5 defau lt controller ) and it does play mildly more difficult than PS4 (DS4 as you mention), but it really is still much more difficult than a XB controller on the XB system no matter which one. Again, fixing the problems is much better than creating flaws in what works well, IMO. Edit: Did something change where BOLDing text doesn't do anything on the forums? I have to increase the text size to get a similar result as I used to when adding BOLD to text. Is this purely a ProBoards thing? There was a thing within the last week where we had the #1 in the web browser in the upper left and then the font of these forums seemed to have changed at that same time. Coincidentally or not, at this same time this coincided with the switch of seasons here at TGCTours. What say you Doyley and SmilingGoats Just wait for them to release patch notes
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Post by moneyman273 on Sept 28, 2021 9:58:33 GMT -5
Funny thing is I said in the shout box yesterday (sarcastically), that the update was going to have a banner ad that stated red fast distances returning. I wasn't far off base!
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Post by moneyman273 on Sept 28, 2021 10:00:32 GMT -5
TGC Tours back to Master please!! It boggles the mind that 2k would not have given some advance notice on this change to TGCTours. Hll they don't even mention the swing change on the patch notes. 2k/HB is truly useless, this is basic customer service. They deserve to lose customers to EA if this is how they continue to treat their loyal players. If you want to play TGCTours Masters settings join Global Golf Tour Master which is available on PS4 Let's put these requests to bed. TGCT is on Pro difficulty this season. Evolve, enjoy and realize that even with this mind blowing ADDITIONAL server tweak to swing, this was the BEST move for TGCT to make, for the well being of the entire community base.
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Post by sroel908 on Sept 28, 2021 10:02:00 GMT -5
This doesn’t change the initial reason why we moved to pro in the first place… it didn’t change anything about the gray fast zone, just the penalty level. So for the reason why we moved to pro hasn’t changed… so neither should we. Moving to pro is still the right move. It’s just like we said… we won’t see much increase in scores at the top, but it brings a whole bunch more people Into the fold. Those who worried about needing to shoot -70’s to win are being shown to be unwarrented I think the concern will come from what was mentioned in a previous post...sure, winning scores might not change too much, but now just making cuts requires almost a prefect round since, as you said, more people are "into the fold". This is more so the case, now that penalties are not as severe and the settings are on Pro. It's just gonna be a ton of lower scores, and even these "good" rounds are going to cause people to get cut and get demotion marks. That doesn't seem fun, either. It's all just moving the goalposts.
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Post by cliffs on Sept 28, 2021 10:40:35 GMT -5
I thought changes to the swing were server side? If so, they would not mention it in patch notes as they never mentioned they were changing the red fasts a couple months ago, right??
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Post by sandbagger on Sept 28, 2021 10:40:42 GMT -5
This new update made me love master swing again.It plays way more realistic and fair on the Xbox now.This pro swing on tgc tours was a good move at the time.But having to shoot -20 or more just to make a cut isn’t realistic for me.Thanks for making this more enjoyable for all.But I’m going to seek out master swing only societies now
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Post by sroel908 on Sept 28, 2021 10:44:50 GMT -5
I thought chnages to the swing were server side? If so, they would not mention it in patch notes as they never mentioned they were changing the red fasts a couple months ago, right?? You're correct...the previous swing changes were said to be server side. And there weren't notes for the red fast nerf or the follow up, but they did at least put out official Tweets that said a swing change was made. There has been no such Tweet this time.
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Post by martbloke on Sept 28, 2021 11:12:48 GMT -5
I thought chnages to the swing were server side? If so, they would not mention it in patch notes as they never mentioned they were changing the red fasts a couple months ago, right?? You're correct...the previous swing changes were said to be server side. And there weren't notes for the red fast nerf or the follow up, but they did at least put out official Tweets that said a swing change was made. There has been no such Tweet this time. I think now though as there was an update to actually download, these changes are now client side and part of the download. Only way to tell for sure is loading the game up offline and having a practice to see if you lose roughly 20 yards hitting a red fast. If so, then we've downloaded the swing updates; if not, then it is again a server side update.
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Post by catcherman22 on Sept 28, 2021 11:20:25 GMT -5
This doesn’t change the initial reason why we moved to pro in the first place… it didn’t change anything about the gray fast zone, just the penalty level. So for the reason why we moved to pro hasn’t changed… so neither should we. Moving to pro is still the right move. It’s just like we said… we won’t see much increase in scores at the top, but it brings a whole bunch more people Into the fold. Those who worried about needing to shoot -70’s to win are being shown to be unwarrented I think the concern will come from what was mentioned in a previous post...sure, winning scores might not change too much, but now just making cuts requires almost a prefect round since, as you said, more people are "into the fold". This is more so the case, now that penalties are not as severe and the settings are on Pro. It's just gonna be a ton of lower scores, and even these "good" rounds are going to cause people to get cut and get demotion marks. That doesn't seem fun, either. It's all just moving the goalposts. Cut right now on CC - A is -18, leader is at -29. Both are about on line with what I would expect.
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Post by randysruns on Sept 28, 2021 11:21:57 GMT -5
This new update made me love master swing again.It plays way more realistic and fair on the Xbox now.This pro swing on tgc tours was a good move at the time.But having to shoot -20 or more just to make a cut isn’t realistic for me.Thanks for making this more enjoyable for all.But I’m going to seek out master swing only societies now I'm leaning the same way as a PS4 player. I played the first two rounds in CC-G for this week and shot 64-63. It looks like I'm going to make the cut, but I'm not close to contending for the win or even a promotion mark, by the looks of things. I like the game to be challenging and don't want to feel like I'm giving up shots to the field when I make a par.
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