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Post by SkyBlueBen on Sept 28, 2021 1:44:48 GMT -5
*Nice timing HB in more ways than one!! 🤣
*sarcasm
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Post by Kie on Sept 28, 2021 2:24:05 GMT -5
Just incredible beyond belief that:
1. HB/2K give no advanced warning of this; 2. Even when the update has been implemented they don't issue patch notes / an explanatory note or tweet explaining what they have done.
It's like a murder mystery trying to work out what they have done this time.
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Post by SkyBlueBen on Sept 28, 2021 2:27:09 GMT -5
Just incredible beyond belief that: 1. HB/2K give no advanced warning of this; 2. Even when the update has been implemented they don't issue patch notes / an explanatory note or tweet explaining what they have done. It's like a murder mystery trying to work out what they have done this time. Useless communication. Not sure I'll be in such a rush to get hold of the next game. A lot will depend on what EA come up with.
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Post by Kie on Sept 28, 2021 2:37:12 GMT -5
Just incredible beyond belief that: 1. HB/2K give no advanced warning of this; 2. Even when the update has been implemented they don't issue patch notes / an explanatory note or tweet explaining what they have done. It's like a murder mystery trying to work out what they have done this time. Useless communication. Not sure I'll be in such a rush to get hold of the next game. A lot will depend on what EA come up with. Yes, I'm certainly looking forward to having a look at the new EA game in April.
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Post by Cecil Harvey on Sept 28, 2021 2:41:10 GMT -5
Just incredible beyond belief that: 1. HB/2K give no advanced warning of this; 2. Even when the update has been implemented they don't issue patch notes / an explanatory note or tweet explaining what they have done. It's like a murder mystery trying to work out what they have done this time. Useless communication. Not sure I'll be in such a rush to get hold of the next game. A lot will depend on what EA come up with. Long standing opinions on HB/2K, but especially HB because this history pre-dates the 2K days: Pros: They often, but not always respond to their communities' issues, even if at random and in a slow manner. This has gotten better in the last few years. Cons: Their PR team has always been sh*t on communicating with its player base and has some history of antagonizing this relationship (see their forums). So, in the end, it is up to the base to figure out what is going on with the changes.
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Post by BillySastard976 on Sept 28, 2021 2:42:38 GMT -5
Credit to them for doing it but a big minus as usual for their customer relations. I'm afraid I just don't understand their attitude to paying customers. Its going to harm them and indeed I would think it already has.
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Post by Giraffe72 on Sept 28, 2021 3:22:02 GMT -5
It's like they're trolling you! I mean, I've got to give them credit for not giving up on this game but for the love of God, would it hurt them to communicate something now and again?! Anything! The swing changes aren't even in the patch notes!! Honestly, it's unbelievable.
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Post by Mart_1980 on Sept 28, 2021 3:42:39 GMT -5
2k Boardroom Monday Morning
Ceo: "Right Gentlemen, the game is free to all Playstation Plus subscribers next week, how can we make the game more accessible and offset the losses of giving the game away for free?"
Finance Manager: "We could really do with selling more virtual coin packs to be honest"
Developer: "I suppose we could make the swing more forgiving, making it easier for all these new players, they might buy those rediculous virtual coin packs then if they want a flamingo putter head or an oversized baseball cap"
Ceo: "Great idea, get it done"
Developer: "But what about those poor folks at TGC Tours who have just started their new season?"
Ceo: "Who?? Get it done!!"
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Post by Giraffe72 on Sept 28, 2021 5:01:27 GMT -5
To be fair I'm not sure this makes too much difference to the change to Pro. Sure, it will make it less frustrating but we'll still have the same issue on Xbox with hitting significantly more red shots than the PS4/5 guys. There's only so many 25 footers you can make!
Early signs are the change has worked at least to some extent. We've got very few Xbox players on the Pro tours after the debacle of the last couple of years. But we've got guys at the top end of Elite and Kinetic (and maybe a couple of made cuts from our 2 Platinum players!), 3 in the top 10 in CCA, similar story down through the levels. I'm not sure that would be happening on Master even with the relaxing of the penalties. Might have been nice to have a look though!
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Post by SkyBlueBen on Sept 28, 2021 5:06:54 GMT -5
To be fair I'm not sure this makes too much difference to the change to Pro. Sure, it will make it less frustrating but we'll still have the same issue on Xbox with hitting significantly more red shots than the PS4/5 guys. There's only so many 25 footers you can make! Early signs are the change has worked at least to some extent. We've got very few Xbox players on the Pro tours after the debacle of the last couple of years. But we've got guys at the top end of Elite and Kinetic (and maybe a couple of made cuts from our 2 Platinum players!), 3 in the top 10 in CCA, similar story down through the levels. I'm not sure that would be happening on Master even with the relaxing of the penalties. Might have been nice to have a look though! They've addressed my real bugbear with the ridiculous penalties (imo) on approach/partial/pitches etc so from that point of view I'm happy with the changes. Now if only they could limit the DS4 controller to the same constraints as the XB controller and they'd be on a winner!!
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Post by oswinner on Sept 28, 2021 5:08:48 GMT -5
Just played four rounds on master swing. Fantastic update. Well done to HB for making the game better.
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Post by Cecil Harvey on Sept 28, 2021 5:16:47 GMT -5
To be fair I'm not sure this makes too much difference to the change to Pro. Sure, it will make it less frustrating but we'll still have the same issue on Xbox with hitting significantly more red shots than the PS4/5 guys. There's only so many 25 footers you can make! Early signs are the change has worked at least to some extent. We've got very few Xbox players on the Pro tours after the debacle of the last couple of years. But we've got guys at the top end of Elite and Kinetic (and maybe a couple of made cuts from our 2 Platinum players!), 3 in the top 10 in CCA, similar story down through the levels. I'm not sure that would be happening on Master even with the relaxing of the penalties. Might have been nice to have a look though! They've addressed my real bugbear with the ridiculous penalties (imo) on approach/partial/pitches etc so from that point of view I'm happy with the changes. Now if only they could limit the DS4 controller to the same constraints as the XB controller and they'd be on a winner!!This is mostly the true issue going on. But it deserves some nuance in the reviews of nuance. In the end in this purely a hypothetical situation and I stress that, so would we here at TGCTours accept some random results in reducing PS results to XBox levels? For me, what happens on XBox is a flaw in some unknown part of its base design within this game. I am of the opinion to fix this flaw rather than reduce the results of the more accurate results on PS4/5 because no one really wants "random" for the sake of random. I am playing on PS5 with the DualSense (PS5 defau lt controller ) and it does play mildly more difficult than PS4 (DS4 as you mention), but it really is still much more difficult than a XB controller on the XB system no matter which one. Again, fixing the problems is much better than creating flaws in what works well, IMO. Edit: Did something change where BOLDing text doesn't do anything on the forums? I have to increase the text size to get a similar result as I used to when adding BOLD to text. Is this purely a ProBoards thing? There was a thing within the last week where we had the #1 in the web browser in the upper left and then the font of these forums seemed to have changed at that same time. Coincidentally or not, at this same time this coincided with the switch of seasons here at TGCTours. What say you Doyley and SmilingGoats
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Post by SkyBlueBen on Sept 28, 2021 5:25:09 GMT -5
They've addressed my real bugbear with the ridiculous penalties (imo) on approach/partial/pitches etc so from that point of view I'm happy with the changes. Now if only they could limit the DS4 controller to the same constraints as the XB controller and they'd be on a winner!!This is mostly the true issue going on. But it deserves some nuance in the reviews of nuance. In the end in this purely a hypothetical situation and I stress that, so would we here at TGCTours accept some random results in reducing PS results to XBox levels? For me, what happens on XBox is a flaw in some unknown part of its base design within this game. I am of the opinion to fix this flaw rather than reduce the results of the more accurate results on PS4/5 because no one really wants "random" for the sake of random. I am playing on PS5 with the DualSense (PS5 defau lt controller ) and it does play mildly more difficult than PS4 (DS4 as you mention), but it really is still much more difficult than a XB controller on the XB system no matter which one. Again, fixing the problems is much better than creating flaws in what works well, IMO. The comment was a bit tongue in cheek because it is an issue that will not be addressed. The game isn't designed to be cross platform so they are not going to spend time ensuring a level playing field for controllers, and it's probably an impossible task anyway. It's probably the reason why the Tours should be played at Pro level as it narrows the gap.
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Post by sroel908 on Sept 28, 2021 8:23:31 GMT -5
Hilarious timing in relation to TGCT Season 8, no info released allowing everyone to squirm and figure out for themselves what changed. We're 13 months into this game's life, and yet we still get the runaround on this.
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Post by rhino4life on Sept 28, 2021 9:13:15 GMT -5
I would find it hard to believe there was no intent behind this with HB. Double middle digits to tours.
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