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Post by Cecil Harvey on Sept 6, 2021 22:51:30 GMT -5
-13 and -11. Two dumb bogies in there.
Not a CC player, so I will let that opinion fall to others, but I think there could be a case for having the Lie grid off and/or the Scout Cam as well on the Pro (P/E/K) tours as an additional threshold to cross when moving up from CC-A if we are all going to play Pro swing difficulty. Just my .02.
Edit: I would prefer both off for the Pro tours.
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Post by wseitz26 on Sept 6, 2021 22:59:16 GMT -5
For the record, I'm in the "no changes needed" camp. That said, definitely nice to be more confident over the ball with the pro swing, though not as rewarding when you hit it well. No lie grid is fine. I didn't even notice for the first six or seven holes.
No scout cam, on the other hand, kind of sucked. I feel like the scout cam is kind of like a caddie that can give you yardages to certain hazards, and lines off the tee, and probably has a green book in his bib. I feel like the guys who have an advantage are the guys who have A LOT more time to put in for practice rounds to figure all of that stuff out and learn every fairway ripple, and I'm guessing most of us don't have that kind of time. I would vote lie grid off, scout cam on. Though I'd be fine if the yardage indicator was turned off. Would make putting harder.
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9ironanon
Amateur Golfer
Posts: 168
TGCT Name: Jackson Quagmire
Tour: Challenge Circuit
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Post by 9ironanon on Sept 6, 2021 23:11:15 GMT -5
Shot 13 under which was around what I expected if you take away the four back nine bogies it could have been better, I can live without scout cam but the downside of that is that PC guys can just game it with F10/11 and get an overhead grid, can't aim from there but you can get a great idea of what to do using the yardage book as a reference.
At the top level, screwing with the settings beyond what they already are might be an idea, but at CC while I could get used to it, I'm not sure the rest of CC would agree.
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Post by IGolfBad on Sept 6, 2021 23:13:02 GMT -5
DoyleyI had previously mentioned in the “What about Season 8?” thread that the pro swing could be left on and assists turned off as follows: - Swing Timing off - Distance Control Meter off - Distance Control Assist off Further down the line: Distance Display carry only I also think that while you are considering Legend with tempo (Swing Timing) off for the new Beer League, that a similar approach could be done with the Master swing for the tour leagues, which seems to be the ultimate source of imbalance. Just a thought. For those who have pointed out that these settings are not adjustable in Societies, I have tested it and they actually are. Thanks for the time and great luck with coming to a happy medium!
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Post by Griz891 on Sept 6, 2021 23:16:02 GMT -5
Well I haven't played league since all the crazy swing changes but I did give this a go. IMO, it seems more realistic without the lie grid and scout cam and it's way better than the Master setting. I've been playing so dam long now without swing tempo that it will take quite some time for me to get the hang of it again. But for those that have been playing with swing tempo, I think there will be some incredible scoring going on. Do I think it's worth coming back and playing leagues again? Probably not, although I might give that very first week a try and make a decision after that. Kind of 50/50 whether or not to play again......well see.
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Post by IGolfBad on Sept 6, 2021 23:28:01 GMT -5
DoyleyI had previously mentioned in the “What about Season 8?” thread that the pro swing could be left on and assists turned off as follows: - Swing Timing off - Distance Control Meter off - Distance Control Assist off Further down the line: Distance Display carry only I also think that while you are considering Legend with tempo (Swing Timing) off for the new Beer League, that a similar approach could be done with the Master swing for the tour leagues, which seems to be the ultimate source of imbalance. Just a thought. For those who have pointed out that these settings are not adjustable in Societies, I have tested it and they actually are. Thanks for the time and great luck with coming to a happy medium! Tagging on to this - I’m finding that with swing timing (tempo) turned off, all the swings difficulties behave identically, at least in my very limited experience. Going to give the Legend swing/no tempo society a run and see how it feels
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xNolanRyan34x
Caddy
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Post by xNolanRyan34x on Sept 6, 2021 23:31:50 GMT -5
Loving the possibility of these changes. Played the test rounds and had a lot of fun again, which is important. Haven't played in TGC since the changes, so this brings new life to the game, at least for me.
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Post by up mup kupen nup on Sept 6, 2021 23:36:26 GMT -5
I wonder why nobody is considering removing the aim marker. I played that in LitjFoxn's True Grid Tour on PC some time ago and I'm a big fan of that!
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Post by Q on Sept 6, 2021 23:58:49 GMT -5
Lie Grid off is my fav. I agree that scout cam can be completely gamed by F10 use on PCs but I do love no scout cams too. As Someone who comes from the designer side of things, no scout cam really can emphasize a good course with how well the holes are framed off the tee. Love it and hope it's an option for pro tours as CC should very much have it on
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Post by zooby97 on Sept 7, 2021 0:14:55 GMT -5
What society are these test events in?
NM
They popped up, I just had to back out and refresh.
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damay6977
Weekend Golfer
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TGCT Name: Damian Knott
Tour: Kinetic
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Post by damay6977 on Sept 7, 2021 0:28:08 GMT -5
Lie Grid off is my fav. I agree that scout cam can be completely gamed by F10 use on PCs but I do love no scout cams too. As Someone who comes from the designer side of things, no scout cam really can emphasize a good course with how well the holes are framed off the tee. Love it and hope it's an option for pro tours as CC should very much have it on Does the F10 flyover in PC show the green grid or not ? If it does then its a big advantage over console players when the scout cam is turned off, if it does not show green grid then maybe its still an advantage but not so much, console players can still use the yardage book / overhead hole layout (circle button in PS4/5) to check pin positions, distances to landing areas, distances to hazards, etc
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Post by geordieboy85 on Sept 7, 2021 0:39:14 GMT -5
Ain't played yet but echo what's been said about PC ganing a massive advantage with the flyovers, if scout cam is removed, also as I am on console I like to look about the created courses as much as the scout cam allows me to do.
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9ironanon
Amateur Golfer
Posts: 168
TGCT Name: Jackson Quagmire
Tour: Challenge Circuit
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Post by 9ironanon on Sept 7, 2021 0:44:43 GMT -5
Lie Grid off is my fav. I agree that scout cam can be completely gamed by F10 use on PCs but I do love no scout cams too. As Someone who comes from the designer side of things, no scout cam really can emphasize a good course with how well the holes are framed off the tee. Love it and hope it's an option for pro tours as CC should very much have it on Does the F10 flyover in PC show the green grid or not ? It absolutely does.
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Post by fransslabak on Sept 7, 2021 0:46:25 GMT -5
Does the F10 flyover in PC show the green grid or not ? It absolutely does. Then that’s a no go because the reason for going to pro is cross platform competition and this would then ruin that.
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Cy Langers BSG
Amateur Golfer
Posts: 152
TGCT Name: Si Langley
Tour: Challenge Circuit
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Post by Cy Langers BSG on Sept 7, 2021 0:56:42 GMT -5
Lie Grid off is my fav. I agree that scout cam can be completely gamed by F10 use on PCs but I do love no scout cams too. As Someone who comes from the designer side of things, no scout cam really can emphasize a good course with how well the holes are framed off the tee. Love it and hope it's an option for pro tours as CC should very much have it on I was a CC-H player and absolutely loved these settings . Was a good challenge and really showed off the strategy of the designer skills as it forces you to use strategy . Hope this sticks for CC . Loved it
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