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Post by pollingpoints on Sept 4, 2021 23:21:54 GMT -5
Top three tours left on Master. Challenge Circuit on Pro would have been a good compromise I think.
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Post by HoneyBadgerHacker on Sept 4, 2021 23:30:52 GMT -5
Top three tours left on Master. Challenge Circuit on Pro would have been a good compromise I think. Agree. I donât know the logistics of it and believe it poses issues but totally agree with how that should be. I play for fun but the more I play itâs for competitiveness. Pro swing at least for me is pretty easy and not much fun. So if I want masters I feel like we are getting demoted to A ball with the same tough competition but no WGR ranking to give you an idea of how your progress against the best all in the name of balance?
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Post by catcherman22 on Sept 5, 2021 0:08:39 GMT -5
Top three tours left on Master. Challenge Circuit on Pro would have been a good compromise I think. This was attempted and it didn't work... Also been attempted is having a super plat tour for just the upper elite that people qualified into.... also didn't work.
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Post by HoneyBadgerHacker on Sept 5, 2021 0:10:06 GMT -5
Top three tours left on Master. Challenge Circuit on Pro would have been a good compromise I think. This was attempted and it didn't work... Also been attempted is having a super plat tour for just the upper elite that people qualified into.... also didn't work. What didnât work exactly?
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Post by catcherman22 on Sept 5, 2021 1:37:10 GMT -5
When we had masters level pro tours and pro level cc tours.. people would excel at pro and be unwantedly promoted into the masters level from cca... they only wanted to play pro... so they would tank in the tours and drop right back down... this caused a log jam in the cca for people who wanted to advance because they couldn't.. there was the same people cycling up and down...
Similar thing happened with the elite tour we had for the top 50.. people would qualify for it who had no interest in playing for it, so they would tank and drop right back down.
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Post by booze2407 on Sept 5, 2021 2:07:24 GMT -5
I voted for legend, because I feel like itâs also a vote for at least master so Iâm covering both đ
Pro will destroy the tour.
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Post by Cecil Harvey on Sept 5, 2021 2:30:09 GMT -5
I didn't vote because of the rules. I was on Platinum or the equivalent from very late in season 1 until the latter part of this past season (7). So I have seen how the top tour has gone over the years for a lot of its history.
Admin is wanting to automate the process of how the tours run. Please understand that. In the past having different swing difficulty, etc. among the main tours didn't work. Your current choice is to play Pro on the main tours or not. You may not like this, but it is how it will go. To me, the results of this poll will help shape how the re-imagined Beer League will go at best. You may have the best intentions, but I don't think you are going to change how Admin runs its site among 1500+ members. They are dedicated to Platinum to CC-L at playing at one swing difficulty.
So, sorry to be that guy, but deal with it.
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Post by hippystein on Sept 5, 2021 4:21:24 GMT -5
Best decision the lads have made. After playing on different platforms. Ps4 had a stupid advantage over all the others due to its poor polling compared to the others. Ive had my ps5 since november and on masters on average its 4/5 shots harder than the ps4. 1 due to the fact that if you calibrate in certain ways you get a massive increase in forgiveness across all shots including putting. On the 5 calibration is pointless as you get out what you put in. Ive still played a few events plstinum this year but masters was like playing with your hand in a cast. People hit slight slows or fasts and miss target yet same shot on ps4 is perfect. Same with putting. Due to the hit zone if you were 2% higher or lower you still get perfect % the ps5 and xbox poll everything and even a 5ft putt isnt a gimme. I said on ps4 at the start of last season that masters with a pro swing was the fairest setting and by the look at the numbers playing the tour going down in comparrison to those that are playing seems like the right assumption. Ive missed playing tgct this year as ive had less inclination to play. I have noticed that since others have swapped to ps5 there scores have dropped off also. Id rather play in a competitive tour instead of one system having a massive advantage over the other. This is genuinley the best decision the tour has made. I bet there are actually people that have delayed getting a ps5 cos they get bet scores on the 4 đ đ Ps5 and xbox are the way to go. When 100% have got next gen or pc then sure change the top tour upto masters again but as i currently stands the tour has 100% mafe the right decision!!!
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Post by HoneyBadgerHacker on Sept 5, 2021 7:32:50 GMT -5
When we had masters level pro tours and pro level cc tours.. people would excel at pro and be unwantedly promoted into the masters level from cca... they only wanted to play pro... so they would tank in the tours and drop right back down... this caused a log jam in the cca for people who wanted to advance because they couldn't.. there was the same people cycling up and down... Similar thing happened with the elite tour we had for the top 50.. people would qualify for it who had no interest in playing for it, so they would tank and drop right back down. I see. Turning promotions off for elite would stop that from happening.
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Post by HoneyBadgerHacker on Sept 5, 2021 7:55:52 GMT -5
I didn't vote because of the rules. I was on Platinum or the equivalent from very late in season 1 until the latter part of this past season (7). So I have seen how the top tour has gone over the years for a lot of its history. Admin is wanting to automate the process of how the tours run. Please understand that. In the past having different swing difficulty, etc. among the main tours didn't work. Your current choice is to play Pro on the main tours or not. You may not like this, but it is how it will go. To me, the results of this poll will help shape how the re-imagined Beer League will go at best. You may have the best intentions, but I don't think you are going to change how Admin runs its site among 1500+ members. They are dedicated to Platinum to CC-L at playing at one swing difficulty. So, sorry to be that guy, but deal with it. I understand but to me the change was directed at a minority of people (Xbox users) we may not change the admins decision your right but would have been nice for all of this to been talked about beforehand. Maybe there was a better option. Seems to me your accommodating one but hurting the other and calling it âfor the greater goodâ. Your basically telling less competitive people we are gonna make it easier for you to play in the pro and cc tours but you still have the option to play in the beer league where it had pro settings. Now your telling master swing players to go to Beer league but there is no incentive to do so if the WGR doesnât count in my opinion. I totally get what your guys at TGCT are doing and I do appreciate all the work put into it. Realize not everyone will be happy but for the top 250 players I the world I think itâs safe to say the majority of them are not happy. Iâm not an IT guy and Iâm sure there is a lot that goes into changes and some that cant be made. Just my two cents but thought it was perfectly fine to begin with. If you loved the game and wanted to get better you can. If you donât pick it up for a while and then play and you suck, oh itâs the masters swing. Letâs make it easier. Iâve seen some of the people on here on all platforms mention they are happy because it wasnât fun for them. Lot of them rush their shots, donât play competitively anyway yet we are making the change for them. Sorry just doesnât make sense unless your going to accommodate the master swing player. And by that I donât mean âgo play the beer league and âdeal with itâ.â
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Post by catcherman22 on Sept 5, 2021 9:01:22 GMT -5
I didn't vote because of the rules. I was on Platinum or the equivalent from very late in season 1 until the latter part of this past season (7). So I have seen how the top tour has gone over the years for a lot of its history. Admin is wanting to automate the process of how the tours run. Please understand that. In the past having different swing difficulty, etc. among the main tours didn't work. Your current choice is to play Pro on the main tours or not. You may not like this, but it is how it will go. To me, the results of this poll will help shape how the re-imagined Beer League will go at best. You may have the best intentions, but I don't think you are going to change how Admin runs its site among 1500+ members. They are dedicated to Platinum to CC-L at playing at one swing difficulty. So, sorry to be that guy, but deal with it. I understand but to me the change was directed at a minority of people (Xbox users) we may not change the admins decision your right but would have been nice for all of this to been talked about beforehand. Maybe there was a better option. Seems to me your accommodating one but hurting the other and calling it âfor the greater goodâ. Your basically telling less competitive people we are gonna make it easier for you to play in the pro and cc tours but you still have the option to play in the beer league where it had pro settings. Now your telling master swing players to go to Beer league but there is no incentive to do so if the WGR doesnât count in my opinion. I totally get what your guys at TGCT are doing and I do appreciate all the work put into it. Realize not everyone will be happy but for the top 250 players I the world I think itâs safe to say the majority of them are not happy. Iâm not an IT guy and Iâm sure there is a lot that goes into changes and some that cant be made. Just my two cents but thought it was perfectly fine to begin with. If you loved the game and wanted to get better you can. If you donât pick it up for a while and then play and you suck, oh itâs the masters swing. Letâs make it easier. Iâve seen some of the people on here on all platforms mention they are happy because it wasnât fun for them. Lot of them rush their shots, donât play competitively anyway yet we are making the change for them. Sorry just doesnât make sense unless your going to accommodate the master swing player. And by that I donât mean âgo play the beer league and âdeal with itâ.â The purpose of the wgr is to rank you against your peers right? you have that on beer.. youâll be ranked against other people playing the same difficulty as you.
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Post by HoneyBadgerHacker on Sept 5, 2021 9:19:10 GMT -5
I understand but to me the change was directed at a minority of people (Xbox users) we may not change the admins decision your right but would have been nice for all of this to been talked about beforehand. Maybe there was a better option. Seems to me your accommodating one but hurting the other and calling it âfor the greater goodâ. Your basically telling less competitive people we are gonna make it easier for you to play in the pro and cc tours but you still have the option to play in the beer league where it had pro settings. Now your telling master swing players to go to Beer league but there is no incentive to do so if the WGR doesnât count in my opinion. I totally get what your guys at TGCT are doing and I do appreciate all the work put into it. Realize not everyone will be happy but for the top 250 players I the world I think itâs safe to say the majority of them are not happy. Iâm not an IT guy and Iâm sure there is a lot that goes into changes and some that cant be made. Just my two cents but thought it was perfectly fine to begin with. If you loved the game and wanted to get better you can. If you donât pick it up for a while and then play and you suck, oh itâs the masters swing. Letâs make it easier. Iâve seen some of the people on here on all platforms mention they are happy because it wasnât fun for them. Lot of them rush their shots, donât play competitively anyway yet we are making the change for them. Sorry just doesnât make sense unless your going to accommodate the master swing player. And by that I donât mean âgo play the beer league and âdeal with itâ.â The purpose of the wgr is to rank you against your peers right? you have that on beer.. youâll be ranked against other people playing the same difficulty as you. all due respect I believe I saw that WGR will not be done for beer league. Think i see what you are trying to say but the way I see it, you will more likely see platinum average players rank a lot higher than the new beer league because of the way the point values work in WGRâs and with much easier settings. Thatâs the point I was trying to make. The new way will penalize the best players in the WGRâs.
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Post by catcherman22 on Sept 5, 2021 9:46:14 GMT -5
There wonât be wgr.. but you donât want wgr anyway since pro players would end up higherâŚ
You want to be ranked against people with the same difficulty..
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Post by HoneyBadgerHacker on Sept 5, 2021 10:45:38 GMT -5
There wonât be wgr.. but you donât want wgr anyway since pro players would end up higher⌠You want to be ranked against people with the same difficulty.. So they are completely getting rid of WGR?
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Post by hads on Sept 5, 2021 15:35:24 GMT -5
Platinum: Legendary Elite and Kinetic: master Cc: pro
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