Perfect Driver?

[andy6467]

I think I hit one perfect driver every 4 rounds.

Is there any way to tell why I am always red fast?  Can you tell if it is because of your transition vs. your down stroke?

[cassinochips]

It's probably your downswing being quick, but check your swing plane too. If you're pulling it left, assuming you're right-handed, you're more likely to be on the fast side.

[andy6467]

Jul 20, 2021 18:53:02 GMT -5 cassinochips said:

It's probably your downswing being quick, but check your swing plane too. If you're pulling it left, assuming you're right-handed, you're more likely to be on the fast side.

The pull definitely exaggerates the problem but not the root of the problem..lol

[dansamp]

What console are you playing on? If XB it's your calibration that's likely the issue... if PS or PC more likely to do with your swing.

Take lots of practice swings on the range and see where the tempo is resulting with the driver. Some calibrations don't have polling points in the perfect window for drivers, especially on XB.

[bmoregolfpro]

Not sure what Driver you are using, but maybe sacrifice a little distance for more forgiveness. I use the 287 Taylormade and I don't feel that I am at a disadvantage at all. I may not hit the most perfects, but I am rarely in the red areas, and if i do I can tell it was me. I will also aim in the center of my landing zone to give me a little forgiveness if I am a little fast or slow.

[dansamp]

I just checked your post history... you are playing on XB. Unfortunately, we're playing a different game compared to the other folks, so tips like using a driver with more forgiveness won't help you.

Go to the range, hit practice swing, take some shots. Your "perfect" is likely a grey fast on your driver (or maybe a grey slow). At that point, your options are:
1) If you like your calibration, keep it, but realize what your "perfect" is with your driver, and play for that. Killah Beaz is a top XB player on Elite Tour, his calibration's perfect is a grey fast and you can see that in his videos on twitch (https://www.twitch.tv/killahbeaz132/video/1092080476). He plays the grey fast for all his drives and irons too. His miss is the grey slow. This is a pretty good calibration actually for driver play, since you have two acceptable shots (grey fast + grey slow), versus point 2 below where it's either perfect or a red miss with the driver which stinks.
2) If you don't like that, recalibrate. The calibration I have is a right of center perfect (or right edge perfect). This allows me to hit perfects with the driver + irons, and miss in the grey fast area with high forgiveness irons. Unfortunately a missed driver shot is landing 30 yards short no matter what, but I live with it.

[andy6467]

Jul 21, 2021 7:40:14 GMT -5 dansamp said:

I just checked your post history... you are playing on XB. Unfortunately, we're playing a different game compared to the other folks, so tips like using a driver with more forgiveness won't help you.

Go to the range, hit practice swing, take some shots. Your "perfect" is likely a grey fast on your driver (or maybe a grey slow). At that point, your options are:
1) If you like your calibration, keep it, but realize what your "perfect" is with your driver, and play for that. Killah Beaz is a top XB player on Elite Tour, his calibration's perfect is a grey fast and you can see that in his videos on twitch (https://www.twitch.tv/killahbeaz132/video/1092080476). He plays the grey fast for all his drives and irons too. His miss is the grey slow. This is a pretty good calibration actually for driver play, since you have two acceptable shots (grey fast + grey slow), versus point 2 below where it's either perfect or a red miss with the driver which stinks.
2) If you don't like that, recalibrate. The calibration I have is a right of center perfect (or right edge perfect). This allows me to hit perfects with the driver + irons, and miss in the grey fast area with high forgiveness irons. Unfortunately a missed driver shot is landing 30 yards short no matter what, but I live with it.

Thanks for this!  Yes, I am on XB and for me, as of now, it seems like grey slow is my perfect shot with the driver. I might try to recalibrate as i dont have much to lose.  I dont think i hit one perfect driver in this week's TGC tours society so maybe that is just the way it is.

[dansamp]

Jul 21, 2021 16:57:56 GMT -5 andy6467 said:

Jul 21, 2021 7:40:14 GMT -5 dansamp said:

I just checked your post history... you are playing on XB. Unfortunately, we're playing a different game compared to the other folks, so tips like using a driver with more forgiveness won't help you.

Go to the range, hit practice swing, take some shots. Your "perfect" is likely a grey fast on your driver (or maybe a grey slow). At that point, your options are:
1) If you like your calibration, keep it, but realize what your "perfect" is with your driver, and play for that. Killah Beaz is a top XB player on Elite Tour, his calibration's perfect is a grey fast and you can see that in his videos on twitch (https://www.twitch.tv/killahbeaz132/video/1092080476). He plays the grey fast for all his drives and irons too. His miss is the grey slow. This is a pretty good calibration actually for driver play, since you have two acceptable shots (grey fast + grey slow), versus point 2 below where it's either perfect or a red miss with the driver which stinks.
2) If you don't like that, recalibrate. The calibration I have is a right of center perfect (or right edge perfect). This allows me to hit perfects with the driver + irons, and miss in the grey fast area with high forgiveness irons. Unfortunately a missed driver shot is landing 30 yards short no matter what, but I live with it.

Thanks for this!  Yes, I am on XB and for me, as of now, it seems like grey slow is my perfect shot with the driver. I might try to recalibrate as i dont have much to lose.  I dont think i hit one perfect driver in this week's TGC tours society so maybe that is just the way it is.

I'd recommend starting with 5 very fasts and 5 very slows when calibrating. Then take a bunch of practice swings and check the results and see how it feels. If it's mostly fast, recalibrate and go up to 6/4 (VF/VS). If mostly slow, consider 4/6. Then keep going until you find one you like. This is the best calibration method IMO.

[blueblood1995]

Jul 21, 2021 17:00:53 GMT -5 dansamp said:

Jul 21, 2021 16:57:56 GMT -5 andy6467 said:

Thanks for this!  Yes, I am on XB and for me, as of now, it seems like grey slow is my perfect shot with the driver. I might try to recalibrate as i dont have much to lose.  I dont think i hit one perfect driver in this week's TGC tours society so maybe that is just the way it is.it says before starting claibration I'd recommend starting with 5 very fasts and 5 very slows when calibrating. Then take a bunch of practice swings and check the results and see how it feels. If it's mostly fast, recalibrate and go up to 6/4 (VF/VS). If mostly slow, consider 4/6. Then keep going until you find one you like. This is the best calibration method IMO.

But it says before starting the calibration process to swing consistently. I've read a lot about the calibration and still confused. I get what you'r saying though. It's another one of those 2K21 PGA mysteries IMO!

[cseanny]

Dan is correct. Incremental VF/VS, or VF/RF VS/RS (they work exactly the same) take out human error and guarantee an exact input point. Then use the 6/4, 7/3, etc to shift your "perfect tempo" the desired direction.

[dansamp]

Jul 21, 2021 21:27:18 GMT -5 blueblood1995 said:

Jul 21, 2021 17:00:53 GMT -5 dansamp said:

But it says before starting the calibration process to swing consistently. I've read a lot about the calibration and still confused. I get what you'r saying though. It's another one of those 2K21 PGA mysteries IMO!

I don't think it's that much of a mystery. The game checks your swing inputs and then moves your perfect tempo. If you go in and swing perfect 10 times, it's not moving anywhere. If you go in and swing perfect 5 times, fast 3 times, and slow 2 times, it's probably slightly shifting it to the left/fast side. It's pretty hard to swing 10 straight times with your consistent tempo, so I think using the VF/VS method it's much easier to control the outcome and get what you want (which you should determine either through noting during your rounds if you're consistently swinging fast or slow, or on the range using practice swing and taking lots of shots to see if you're consistently more fast or more slow). Using the Fast/Slow method, you can definitely see how it's working.

[andy6467]

Jul 21, 2021 7:18:03 GMT -5 bmoregolfpro said:

Not sure what Driver you are using, but maybe sacrifice a little distance for more forgiveness. I use the 287 Taylormade and I don't feel that I am at a disadvantage at all. I may not hit the most perfects, but I am rarely in the red areas, and if i do I can tell it was me. I will also aim in the center of my landing zone to give me a little forgiveness if I am a little fast or slow.

Thanks, but I use the 284 yard driver that has a decent amount of forgiveness.

[dansamp]

Jul 22, 2021 9:06:14 GMT -5 andy6467 said:

Jul 21, 2021 7:18:03 GMT -5 bmoregolfpro said:

Not sure what Driver you are using, but maybe sacrifice a little distance for more forgiveness. I use the 287 Taylormade and I don't feel that I am at a disadvantage at all. I may not hit the most perfects, but I am rarely in the red areas, and if i do I can tell it was me. I will also aim in the center of my landing zone to give me a little forgiveness if I am a little fast or slow.

Thanks, but I use the 284 yard driver that has a decent amount of forgiveness.

IMO you're not gaining anything by using that on XB on Master difficulty. I use the 296 yard Titleist driver because I would hit exactly 0 extra perfects or grey fasts/slows (which it's impossible for me to hit anyways) by switching to a higher forgiveness driver. Most of the top guys on XB know this, agree, and use the longest driver if you ever ghost them and check their bags. This way, at least when you do miss you still get a bit of extra distance, and when you hit perfect you're as long as can be.

[andy6467]

Jul 22, 2021 0:28:36 GMT -5 cseanny said:

Dan is correct. Incremental VF/VS, or VF/RF VS/RS (they work exactly the same) take out human error and guarantee an exact input point. Then use the 6/4, 7/3, etc to shift your "perfect tempo" the desired direction.

So when you say VF, is that a complete shank (i.e. one that you can feel the vibration) that only carries about 50% of the full distance or is it more of a duck hook that carries more like 75%?

When you calibrate, you don't get the visual of the results (i.e the speed or the swing plane) so I was having trouble of gauging whether my attempts at VF were consistent.  Or am i missing something?

[dansamp]

Jul 23, 2021 6:53:28 GMT -5 andy6467 said:

Jul 22, 2021 0:28:36 GMT -5 cseanny said:

Dan is correct. Incremental VF/VS, or VF/RF VS/RS (they work exactly the same) take out human error and guarantee an exact input point. Then use the 6/4, 7/3, etc to shift your "perfect tempo" the desired direction.

So when you say VF, is that a complete shank (i.e. one that you can feel the vibration) that only carries about 50% of the full distance or is it more of a duck hook that carries more like 75%?

When you calibrate, you don't get the visual of the results (i.e the speed or the swing plane) so I was having trouble of gauging whether my attempts at VF were consistent.  Or am i missing something?

Yep, all of those results work. Any red fast+ result as CSeanny said works all the same. I normally just go as fast as possible so I get that VF shank. FYI I also find it's way easier to control tempo if you hold at the top for an extended period (which is known as going for a 96% swing). So I'll pull back, hold for a couple seconds, then quickly press forward for a fast result, or slowly press forward for the slow result.

But yes you're correct, the calibration doesn't give you the shot result, but you should be able to tell from the shape whether it's fast or slow.