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Post by Craig / Hendomedes on Jul 13, 2021 7:14:07 GMT -5
Guys he spent 10 hours on the XB, he clearly knows better. As far as perfects go, I'm all over the white, left and right. The same goes for the gray areas. That's the way I see it. On Masters, to me at least, there's no true difference between the XBox and the PC. All the complaining has to do with not being able to game the system any longer. On your polling points. Calling bullshit on that unless you're the only person with a different build on Xbox. On 'gaming the system', presumably you're referring to fasts? Nonsense, I never played for fasts and have been promoted twice since the patches to the game. On believing what you want, I do believe you're talking out of your... to be fair lol
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Post by bmoregolfpro on Jul 13, 2021 7:18:27 GMT -5
I played most of my time in the other games and this one on xbox. There is a difference I can assure you. But I will say that I'm positive i still have tempo issues on PS , without doubt but just not all the time. Loading times on weekends are abysmal and I know that it is not my Internet. It's too coincidental that its every weekend. I will also add that I was a decent putter on xbox compared to PS as I think the controller, as well as more user friendly (IMO) was less sensitive. I don't think there's any difference between consoles with putting, it's just the other 50-odd shots! And yes, I much prefer the Xbox controllers over the PlayStation ones. Those people must have really little hands. Ding Ding..that's why we all bought Playstations! #smallhandenergy
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Post by moneyman273 on Jul 13, 2021 7:23:00 GMT -5
I play on PS4 and my friend just recently bought the game for his new XBox.....I wanted to play a few rounds to see what all of the complaints are about with XBox and this game. Well, the new XBox controller greater improved my tempo and I was getting more precision with drives and approach shots. The only issue I had was putting as it just feels different and I missed a lot of easy putts. My scores were about the same as with the PS4. If I could have made putts I’d been better with the XBox controller. I am getting a gaming PC soon and will no doubt use that new XBox controller and just figure out he putting with it. I actually think all the Xbox disparity issues are sour grapes. I too have the Series X and have logged a lot of hours on the PC. Seeing that I only have 10 hours playing time on the XBox and 80 times more on the PC, I see no huge difference between the XBox game and the PC game, at least on Master difficulty. My statistics are pretty similar. And one would think, with more time on the XBox I would get much better. I now play with the DS4 on the PC-- which really allows for almost unreal consistency on the swing plane, though tempo consistency is taking a bit more time. On the Xbox I use the Elite 2. Better on tempo but not as good as the DS4 on the swing plane. But overall, I'm just not seeing this huge disparity between the two. Maybe the XBox is a bit more difficult, and maybe once I get more time on the XBox that difference will disappear. But playing Master, the game, no matter the platform, is very difficult. When I shoot under par I feel it's a major accomplishment. You're clueless and I can't believe I'm actually devoting a minute to responding to stupidity but here I am. These changes have destroyed MOST Xbox players playing on TGCT (with the exception of players lucky enough to own a Series X) and for the remaining few playing on an original Xbox One, they have either given it up or play and stay drunk so they can get through their rounds without throwing their console out the window.
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Post by Giraffe72 on Jul 13, 2021 11:17:17 GMT -5
I actually think all the Xbox disparity issues are sour grapes. I too have the Series X and have logged a lot of hours on the PC. Seeing that I only have 10 hours playing time on the XBox and 80 times more on the PC, I see no huge difference between the XBox game and the PC game, at least on Master difficulty. My statistics are pretty similar. And one would think, with more time on the XBox I would get much better. I now play with the DS4 on the PC-- which really allows for almost unreal consistency on the swing plane, though tempo consistency is taking a bit more time. On the Xbox I use the Elite 2. Better on tempo but not as good as the DS4 on the swing plane. But overall, I'm just not seeing this huge disparity between the two. Maybe the XBox is a bit more difficult, and maybe once I get more time on the XBox that difference will disappear. But playing Master, the game, no matter the platform, is very difficult. When I shoot under par I feel it's a major accomplishment. You're clueless and I can't believe I'm actually devoting a minute to responding to stupidity but here I am. These changes have destroyed MOST Xbox players playing on TGCT (with the exception of players lucky enough to own a Series X) and for the remaining few playing on an original Xbox One, they have either given it up or play and stay drunk so they can get through their rounds without throwing their console out the window. To be fair Jason, while the game does seem to be more stable on the X we're hardly storming our way up the tours! The polling points issue is exactly the same.
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Post by moneyman273 on Jul 13, 2021 11:57:07 GMT -5
You're clueless and I can't believe I'm actually devoting a minute to responding to stupidity but here I am. These changes have destroyed MOST Xbox players playing on TGCT (with the exception of players lucky enough to own a Series X) and for the remaining few playing on an original Xbox One, they have either given it up or play and stay drunk so they can get through their rounds without throwing their console out the window. To be fair Jason, while the game does seem to be more stable on the X we're hardly storming our way up the tours! The polling points issue is exactly the same. Oh I agree there. You're actually doing quite well though, noticed you missed cut this week though.
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Post by greyosprey on Jul 13, 2021 15:25:53 GMT -5
I have the game for PS4 and XSX. There is a difference with the swing tempo and it's quite noticeable for me. Playing on XSX, I just shot a 47 on the front 9 of the promotion event in rd 2. No birdies, 2 pars, the rest bogeys or worse. I didn't write down the number of puts, but for arguments sake, let's assume I 2 putting every hole, that leaves 29 shots from tee to green. Out of those 29 swings, you would think I could "luck" into one or two perfects, right? Nope. Not one perfect swing. The closest I got was 3 grey fasts and 2 grey slows, and the rest were red fasts, red slows, red very fasts, and red very slows.
Sour grapes? SMH. That's about as asinine as telling people to basically quit playing here and to wait for EA's game and then being surprised by the amount of people that have done just that.
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Post by hammers1man on Jul 13, 2021 16:42:32 GMT -5
Obviously there is something up with Xbox. But my recent experiences from changing from Xbox series X controller (which I love)to a wired DS4 on PC have proved the PS controller is more suitable for the game's tempo mechanic. The DS4 feels much more responsive tempo wise though the series X much easier to hit straight swing planes for me with the stick. The game is night and day better with the DS4 for tempo, it actually feels like my own swing now, I hit way too many slow reds for my liking with the Xbox controller, my tempo was just not consistent and it was so frustrating, it was hard to tell sometimes if I hit a fast or slow tempo with the Xbox controller. With the DS4 I know straight away if it is fast or slow, I could play the game blindfolded and know my tempo outcome. The game plays really well with a DS4 on PC and I would say it's the best way to play the game, I also have the game on PS4 Pro, the poor framerates on certain courses on that platform ruins the experience for me, so I never really play the game on PS4 Pro.
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Post by dansamp on Jul 13, 2021 17:34:44 GMT -5
I have the game for PS4 and XSX. There is a difference with the swing tempo and it's quite noticeable for me. Playing on XSX, I just shot a 47 on the front 9 of the promotion event in rd 2. No birdies, 2 pars, the rest bogeys or worse. I didn't write down the number of puts, but for arguments sake, let's assume I 2 putting every hole, that leaves 29 shots from tee to green. Out of those 29 swings, you would think I could "luck" into one or two perfects, right? Nope. Not one perfect swing. The closest I got was 3 grey fasts and 2 grey slows, and the rest were red fasts, red slows, red very fasts, and red very slows. Sour grapes? SMH. That's about as asinine as telling people to basically quit playing here and to wait for EA's game and then being surprised by the amount of people that have done just that. Yeah your round is showing the polling point issue. Unfortunately your calibration is poor, so it's actually near impossible for you to hit perfects. You'll only do so by fluke. You could go to the range and hit practice swing and swing 100 times and I don't think you'd see more than 5 perfects on that calibration, if that. Because of the polling point gap, your points are that grey fast and grey slow, with no in between. Most on XB are limited to 1 point in the perfect, 1 point in the grey fast or grey slow (take your pick, depends if you're right edge or left edge perfect) AND you need to be on pretty much the most forgiving clubs for this to actually work (otherwise you're stuck with a perfect point, then two dead misses). Obviously there is something up with Xbox. But my recent experiences from changing from Xbox series X controller (which I love)to a wired DS4 on PC have proved the PS controller is more suitable for the game's tempo mechanic. The DS4 feels much more responsive tempo wise though the series X much easier to hit straight swing planes for me with the stick. The game is night and day better with the DS4 for tempo, it actually feels like my own swing now, I hit way too many slow reds for my liking with the Xbox controller, my tempo was just not consistent and it was so frustrating, it was hard to tell sometimes if I hit a fast or slow tempo with the Xbox controller. With the DS4 I know straight away if it is fast or slow, I could play the game blindfolded and know my tempo outcome. The game plays really well with a DS4 on PC and I would say it's the best way to play the game, I also have the game on PS4 Pro, the poor framerates on certain courses on that platform ruins the experience for me, so I never really play the game on PS4 Pro. I agree with your takes from my experience playing with XB and DS4 controllers. DS4 significantly easier for tempo (and what I feel is a faster swing speed for every tempo result). XB is easier to maintain straight lines.
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Post by hammers1man on Jul 13, 2021 17:59:38 GMT -5
I have the game for PS4 and XSX. There is a difference with the swing tempo and it's quite noticeable for me. Playing on XSX, I just shot a 47 on the front 9 of the promotion event in rd 2. No birdies, 2 pars, the rest bogeys or worse. I didn't write down the number of puts, but for arguments sake, let's assume I 2 putting every hole, that leaves 29 shots from tee to green. Out of those 29 swings, you would think I could "luck" into one or two perfects, right? Nope. Not one perfect swing. The closest I got was 3 grey fasts and 2 grey slows, and the rest were red fasts, red slows, red very fasts, and red very slows. Sour grapes? SMH. That's about as asinine as telling people to basically quit playing here and to wait for EA's game and then being surprised by the amount of people that have done just that. Yeah your round is showing the polling point issue. Unfortunately your calibration is poor, so it's actually near impossible for you to hit perfects. You'll only do so by fluke. You could go to the range and hit practice swing and swing 100 times and I don't think you'd see more than 5 perfects on that calibration, if that. Because of the polling point gap, your points are that grey fast and grey slow, with no in between. Most on XB are limited to 1 point in the perfect, 1 point in the grey fast or grey slow (take your pick, depends if you're right edge or left edge perfect) AND you need to be on pretty much the most forgiving clubs for this to actually work (otherwise you're stuck with a perfect point, then two dead misses). Obviously there is something up with Xbox. But my recent experiences from changing from Xbox series X controller (which I love)to a wired DS4 on PC have proved the PS controller is more suitable for the game's tempo mechanic. The DS4 feels much more responsive tempo wise though the series X much easier to hit straight swing planes for me with the stick. The game is night and day better with the DS4 for tempo, it actually feels like my own swing now, I hit way too many slow reds for my liking with the Xbox controller, my tempo was just not consistent and it was so frustrating, it was hard to tell sometimes if I hit a fast or slow tempo with the Xbox controller. With the DS4 I know straight away if it is fast or slow, I could play the game blindfolded and know my tempo outcome. The game plays really well with a DS4 on PC and I would say it's the best way to play the game, I also have the game on PS4 Pro, the poor framerates on certain courses on that platform ruins the experience for me, so I never really play the game on PS4 Pro. I agree with your takes from my experience playing with XB and DS4 controllers. DS4 significantly easier for tempo (and what I feel is a faster swing speed for every tempo result). XB is easier to maintain straight lines. Yes definitely a faster swing speed required for the DS4 on PC. I play the game with GSync with high frame rates so I really do notice latency and low framerates, the DS4 even with 250hz plugged in to Xbox 125hz input lag difference is very noticeable to me. Not tried bluetooth DS4 much tbh as it plays really well plugged in to usb. It could be a placebo but it does feel much more responsive with DS4. It is interesting to see how this game plays on Stadia compared to Xbox.
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Post by greyosprey on Jul 13, 2021 22:59:42 GMT -5
dansamp - I appreciate all that info! Thanks! You mentioned that my calibration was poor. I'll recalibrate my swing and see if it helps. It certainly can't make it worse. Lol.
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Post by dansamp on Jul 14, 2021 6:40:18 GMT -5
dansamp - I appreciate all that info! Thanks! You mentioned that my calibration was poor. I'll recalibrate my swing and see if it helps. It certainly can't make it worse. Lol. Yes you should be able to get one that allows for much more consistent perfects than that on XB! If you need any other tips or methods to achieve a better calibration on XB, feel free to PM me. Most seem to like a calibration with 6 very fasts and 4 very slows, or 5 and 5.
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Post by sroel908 on Jul 14, 2021 10:49:59 GMT -5
FYI, and I know this is a whole different game, but it's still 2K and it's 2K's biggest franchise, so I assume it might be a hint at things to come for other 2K games... NBA 2K22 will NOT have cross platform play: www.sportsgamersonline.com/games/basketball/nba-2k22-will-not-feature-crossplay/Again, this could mean nothing for PGA 2K22/23, but given the discrepancies between the the versions of this series, I'd imagine they'd shy away from cross platform play in future PGA games, too.
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Post by greyosprey on Jul 14, 2021 15:43:39 GMT -5
Recalibrated this morning and played the back 9. Shot 39. Out of an estimated 23 non putts I had...
0 red very fasts/very slows 3 red fasts 3 fast 9 prefects 1 slow 7 red slows - including 4 in a row and 5 out of 6 swings between holes 16 and 17. I chalk some of that up to getting tired (I work 12 hr nights).
Played the 2nd rd of another pro event and shot +3, I think. I'm good with that. I mis-judged the wind/roll out on a few shots that cost me as much as the handful of swing tempo issues.
Guess I just need to hit the driving range for a couple minutes before playing and calibrate more often. 🙂
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Post by bmells33 on Jul 14, 2021 16:55:02 GMT -5
As per Doyleys post on promo event # 6. Numbers are down so much and the game for many is a "throw at the back of drawer and may play later" or trade in and have done with it. Societies also taking a hit which is a shame. Exactly more people have quit TGC this time around than any previous game. Not something to be proud of after so many successful years Isn't this what they wanted? The RF clamoring got the game changed and participation dropped immediately.
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Post by SkyBlueBen on Jul 17, 2021 4:25:24 GMT -5
Exactly more people have quit TGC this time around than any previous game. Not something to be proud of after so many successful years Isn't this what they wanted? The RF clamoring got the game changed and participation dropped immediately. TGCT bent over backwards to accommodate as many as possible at the start instigating CC divisions down through to L. The new season upcoming will give them the opportunity to streamline that set up. I imagine Master level will remain the mainstay of TGCT. Sadly, for the more casual player, not just those that play on XB, Master level can be a frustrating experience and has led to many giving up all together with TGCT. Are TGCT pleased with that outcome? Only they can tell you that but I suspect they are not too distressed.
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