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Post by gatorman on May 20, 2021 9:03:48 GMT -5
I am slowly finding my way back toward being the same near par player I was before the changes, thanks to the pitch shot. I never used pitch when I got close to the green because splash was so consistent, and pitch always seemed to go too far if I went a little fast. I don't know if HB adjusted the pitch shot, but I have found it to be a fair replacement for the previous splash shot. My biggest problem is going fast on tee shots and losing much distance and missing more fairways, and now with slow giving similar poor results, it's hard for me to find middle ground for decent tee shots consistently.
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Post by twofor22 on May 21, 2021 15:55:08 GMT -5
It seems like they've reduced the distance penalty on pitch shots for red fasts, at least for those short partial ones around 20-30 metres. When the update first happened these shots would fall short by quite a bit but now they seem to be more like they were before. I try to hit perfects on them but usually miss fast, but I'm not losing as much distance.
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Post by sroel908 on May 21, 2021 16:07:39 GMT -5
Pitch shots and splash shots have basically just flip-flopped in my eyes now. I am able to pull off pitch shots with ease following the second update, while splashes are worthless and way too penalizing if you slightly miss on tempo.
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Post by hammers1man on May 21, 2021 17:25:28 GMT -5
Pitch shots and splash shots have basically just flip-flopped in my eyes now. I am able to pull off pitch shots with ease following the second update, while splashes are worthless and way too penalizing if you slightly miss on tempo. As it should be, though I don't see any difference from splash from bunkers. Maybe it is because my tempo is always good, though I have also hit red fast splash from bunkers close, the punishment is when your tempo for the shot is way off. Splash from fairways and rough is a high risk shot in golf and you should be severely punished if your tempo is bad. I would also argue to pull off a splash shot from rough and land the ball within 8 foot is a fantastic shot from any distance, same goes for flop irl.
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Post by twofor22 on May 22, 2021 10:59:35 GMT -5
I find I can hit perfects or just grey on full splashes pretty easily, but partial ones for whatever reason I have to slow the downswing quite a bit to achieve it which just doesn't feel right. It was always that way which is probably why it was the only shot I regularly hit red fast, that's what my normal tempo would produce.
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Post by hammers1man on May 22, 2021 13:12:20 GMT -5
I find I can hit perfects or just grey on full splashes pretty easily, but partial ones for whatever reason I have to slow the downswing quite a bit to achieve it which just doesn't feel right. It was always that way which is probably why it was the only shot I regularly hit red fast, that's what my normal tempo would produce. Change the club and back again as this resets the intent. Your backswing will be faster but your tempo will be the same. All partial shots are manageable with 100% intent, even a 10yard pitch shot. The short game is very manageable for partials, it is actually a lot easier now than it used to be. Hit the chipping green learn these shots, your score will benefit.
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Post by twofor22 on May 22, 2021 14:37:00 GMT -5
I'll give that a go next time I fire up the game. In the meantime I'm off for a game of real golf where I'll struggle with bunkers as well if I land in them 😂
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Post by hammers1man on May 22, 2021 16:39:06 GMT -5
I'll give that a go next time I fire up the game. In the meantime I'm off for a game of real golf where I'll struggle with bunkers as well if I land in them 😂 I have always played pitch partial shots as the splash was always been arcady cheese to me from heavy rough. I have hit that chipping green from release date. Before a 40 yard pitch was so finicky with my 53 yard pitch LW now it is very manageable, I just nearly holed out that shot. The game is harder and you will miss many greens, partial pitch is your friend. I haven't tried splash from rough apart from chipping green but it looks like pitch is the go to shot now. Splash from bunker is not the super hard shot I keep reading, just concentrate on tempo and you will be good.Hope to see your scores improving and happy to give any more advice on the short game. I am playing not first society tournament next and I haven't hit a ball since last September. I do have a lesson with my golf pro so that will help. But nothing like getting the feel of a course to get your game on track.
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Post by gatorman on May 22, 2021 21:20:12 GMT -5
I find I can hit perfects or just grey on full splashes pretty easily, but partial ones for whatever reason I have to slow the downswing quite a bit to achieve it which just doesn't feel right. It was always that way which is probably why it was the only shot I regularly hit red fast, that's what my normal tempo would produce. Change the club and back again as this resets the intent. Your backswing will be faster but your tempo will be the same. All partial shots are manageable with 100% intent, even a 10yard pitch shot. The short game is very manageable for partials, it is actually a lot easier now than it used to be. Hit the chipping green learn these shots, your score will benefit. I'm not understanding this. If I need to hit a pitch 15yds, I select my lob wedge and set the marker at 15 yards. Are you saying I should leave the marker at 100% distance (49 yds) and take a partial swing? That seems likely to go closer to 49 yds than 15 yds for me. Am I missing something here?
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Post by twofor22 on May 23, 2021 2:05:16 GMT -5
I tend not to use the splash from places other than bunkers. I used to use the partial pitch with good effect before the patches, then it felt impossible for a short time, and now I just played a round and hit a few of them and they seem easier again. I'll keep practising them.
I didn't have the best real round this morning, hit a lot of fairways but duffed pitches and chips too often which is unlike me. Bunkers were crap, the sand is quite hard and compacted on all courses around here after a lot of rain recently. Lessons are in the pipeline to try to improve consistency.
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Post by hammers1man on May 23, 2021 6:54:20 GMT -5
Change the club and back again as this resets the intent. Your backswing will be faster but your tempo will be the same. All partial shots are manageable with 100% intent, even a 10yard pitch shot. The short game is very manageable for partials, it is actually a lot easier now than it used to be. Hit the chipping green learn these shots, your score will benefit. I'm not understanding this. If I need to hit a pitch 15yds, I select my lob wedge and set the marker at 15 yards. Are you saying I should leave the marker at 100% distance (49 yds) and take a partial swing? That seems likely to go closer to 49 yds than 15 yds for me. Am I missing something here? It would only go 49 yards if you are hitting nearly a full pitch swing, All moving the marker does for shots apart from putts is slows your backswing down but it also shifts the tempo so you have to hit your downswing slower also. If you leave that marker 100% distance you'll have a faster backswing but your tempo will be normal, it is possible to hit 10 to 50+ yards with my LW with intent (marker) set to 53 yards (my LW pitch distance). Partials is all about learning your avatar's backswing distances , exactly the same way you do for putts. With pitch from bad lies you have to adjust how hard you hit because of the distance penalty, but all this becomes routine from practice. For people that are used to playing partial pitch shots the short game feels more fluid now, I hit all these shots by feel. I don't use marker but it is still possible to slow the backswing down as the intent is still there but the marker is invisible.
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Post by illinoisgator on May 27, 2021 10:23:14 GMT -5
Pitches are great for me when it’s a full swing but anything less it’s a dropped shot. A 67 yard pitch at 100% is dialed in...it I try a 95% pitch with a 67 yard club it goes like 30 yards 🤷♂️
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Post by wseitz26 on May 27, 2021 12:35:46 GMT -5
I am slowly finding my way back toward being the same near par player I was before the changes, thanks to the pitch shot. I never used pitch when I got close to the green because splash was so consistent, and pitch always seemed to go too far if I went a little fast. I don't know if HB adjusted the pitch shot, but I have found it to be a fair replacement for the previous splash shot. My biggest problem is going fast on tee shots and losing much distance and missing more fairways, and now with slow giving similar poor results, it's hard for me to find middle ground for decent tee shots consistently. This pretty much describes me exactly. I have run into a glitch the last few days, however, on bunker shots where I switch to a LW pitch. My guy doesn't swing. I'll still hit the ball, but my player just stands there motionless. I first noticed it in another society event where we use the swing meter. It's not too bad with the swing meter, because I'm focused about 85% on the meter and not so much the player's swing. But it's a bit unnerving. However, without the swing meter, it's nearly impossible. It's like playing in the dark. Of course, the first time it happened in a TGCT event, I had a 17 yard bunker shot, which means definite switch to pitch shot, as a slow splash will go about two feet. But the guy wasn't moving, so I had to go with a full splash (23 yards), and manipulate the loft and spin and hope for the best. Ended up holing it for birdie, so go figure.
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Post by hammers1man on May 27, 2021 13:01:10 GMT -5
Pitches are great for me when it’s a full swing but anything less it’s a dropped shot. A 67 yard pitch at 100% is dialed in...it I try a 95% pitch with a 67 yard club it goes like 30 yards 🤷♂️ The same is for full shots now, 94% loses a lot of distance.
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Post by gunslinger1972 on May 27, 2021 13:02:04 GMT -5
I’ve had my feel of this game.These new changes should’ve been enforced since day 1. Not mid way thru the life expectancy of this title
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