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Post by peskypeanut on Sept 29, 2021 1:53:39 GMT -5
Driver 286 3w 243 3i 215 4i 199 5i 187 6i 176 7i 166 8i 155 9i 144 PW 124 GW 110 SW 94 LW 81 This one of the best bags I’ve seen as far as gapping. I’ve not considered using a blend of brands because it doesn’t feel right but I’m interested in testing something similar to this. Does this bag still work for you? This setup still works but I’ve changed to the following setup: 295 245 220 202 190 178 166 153 142 124 107 94 81 With loft and attack angle I can hit pretty much hit any distance. I see lots of setups that have the LW go 100 yards. This is fine if your partial game is strong but for me I like having my full splash shots go 16 yards. |
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Post by zzfr33b1rdzz on Sept 29, 2021 8:55:16 GMT -5
This one of the best bags I’ve seen as far as gapping. I’ve not considered using a blend of brands because it doesn’t feel right but I’m interested in testing something similar to this. Does this bag still work for you? I mix brands and that is likely the best way to go to bridge the gaps as best you can. Keep in mind of a couple of things: -Clubs on the low end (wedges and short irons) of your bag have the most room for variance when using the shot shaper and on the longer clubs there isn't nearly the same amount of variance when using said shot shaper -The higher your Distance Control stat on a club, the more variance you get when using the shot shaper. The Distance Control stat and Swing Plane stat are usually going to be inverse of each other. The higher one goes, the lower the other goes. Using that info, going from Master swing to Pro swing makes Swing Plane less important for many of us, so loading up on clubs with high Distance Control (especially those shorter clubs) help to bridge gaps in your bag on that end for most if I had to guess. This is my setup for reference: Dr 285 3W 237 3H 216 3I 201 4I 190 5I 182 6I 172 7I 160 8I 150 PW 135 GW 118 SW 104 LW 88 Despite the largest gaps occurring in the wedges, I use wedges with a decent to high Distance Control stat that can cover those gaps. With the irons being fairly close in distance, gaps are still covered with the shot shaper up to the 3I. My gaps are up above 200 where I am not expecting to get close at a high percentage anyways, so I cover the gaps at the middle to short distances. Edit: I just now noticed that this last update added more club options to buy with VCoin, so I may change my clubs slightly after showing my setup. Ha! Be aware - I noticed that many of the 'gold banner' reward clubs from career mode are no longer listed as available - I previously had the Callaway Pro irons unlocked and have 2 of them equipped in my bag. They are no longer showing in the list of clubs - but appear to have remained in my bag - so I dare not remove them else they will likely be gone forever.. I no longer see really ANY of the previous 'gold banner' clubs in any of the club lists - so IF you had/have any of those clubs equipped that are no longer available in the list - be careful switching them out as you may not be able to go back to them.. One other note - all of the clubs that were previously only available via the Clubhouse pass are/have been available to purchase with VC for a couple of months now - so it is possible you are just noticing that now. I feel sorry for the folks that paid real $ for the Clubhouse pass since all that stuff can now be bought for free with the VC.. |
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Sept 29, 2021 11:04:18 GMT -5
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Post by jazzyjp on Sept 29, 2021 11:04:18 GMT -5
This one of the best bags I’ve seen as far as gapping. I’ve not considered using a blend of brands because it doesn’t feel right but I’m interested in testing something similar to this. Does this bag still work for you? I mix brands and that is likely the best way to go to bridge the gaps as best you can. Keep in mind of a couple of things: -Clubs on the low end (wedges and short irons) of your bag have the most room for variance when using the shot shaper and on the longer clubs there isn't nearly the same amount of variance when using said shot shaper -The higher your Distance Control stat on a club, the more variance you get when using the shot shaper. The Distance Control stat and Swing Plane stat are usually going to be inverse of each other. The higher one goes, the lower the other goes. Using that info, going from Master swing to Pro swing makes Swing Plane less important for many of us, so loading up on clubs with high Distance Control (especially those shorter clubs) help to bridge gaps in your bag on that end for most if I had to guess. This is my setup for reference: Dr 285 3W 237 3H 216 3I 201 4I 190 5I 182 6I 172 7I 160 8I 150 PW 135 GW 118 SW 104 LW 88 Despite the largest gaps occurring in the wedges, I use wedges with a decent to high Distance Control stat that can cover those gaps. With the irons being fairly close in distance, gaps are still covered with the shot shaper up to the 3I. My gaps are up above 200 where I am not expecting to get close at a high percentage anyways, so I cover the gaps at the middle to short distances. Edit: I just now noticed that this last update added more club options to buy with VCoin, so I may change my clubs slightly after showing my setup. Ha! “The higher your Distance Control stat on a club, the more variance you get when using the shot shaper.” Can you explain this? DISTANCE CONTROL *Gameplay: Impacts the backswing to downswing transition window. Backswing transition point determines the swing power. *Counter Attribute: Swing Plane (+Distance Control equals -Swing Plane) *Pro: Increased Distance Control reduces the chance of an over swing or an under swing, keeping you on target. *Con: Reduced Swing Plane forgiveness increases the chance of pushing or pulling your shot. Are you meaning by not hitting your power it increases variance from desired shot here? I typically hit 101% shots. If I’m focused on the power bar (which I don’t really use other than partials and putting - trying to not use it at all maybe other than putting) I hit fasts more often than not. Hit 98% on occasion. So to my knowledge the distance control doesn’t affect the distances your club can change. I could be wrong but I figured it was just that sweet spot window. With that being said, yeah gaps in wedges are fine. You can fine tune those drastically and filling on 15-20yd gaps is still a breeze. I never played on master. I play in a society on pro marker only, wind meter only, and depending on the event no lie grid on fairways (still green grids because we’re not psychopaths haha). Right now I feel like I struggle the most with swing plane. The issue with better swing plane irons: Gold Titleist Gold Bridgestones Gold Mizunos Purple TaylorMade is that they are very poor with shot shaping. Grey Titleist irons (which I assume are what you noticed being new which I’m also excited about) allow way better spin control (I use this a lot to stop ball on firm/very firm greens we play on) and more options fading/drawing lofting/delofting. The grey titleists (and purple callaways) have max shot shaping on any iron. The pro with this is that I don’t have to sacrifice all my swing plane to have it now, which again I struggle with. Using irons that go 10yds farther would help gap the bag way better because it frees up another club, but I think even though the grey titleists don’t go the furthest (138-184yd) they offer potentially the best stats as far as a balanced iron. You should check them out as they’re not that far off from your current setup. Assuming you did opt for these, it’d give you even wider gapping in the low range and more forgiving clubs to have even more chances at knocking in pitches and chips. Also, grey Titleist wedges have decent shot shaping for their lack of distance and such. |
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Sept 29, 2021 11:08:04 GMT -5
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Post by jazzyjp on Sept 29, 2021 11:08:04 GMT -5
I mix brands and that is likely the best way to go to bridge the gaps as best you can. Keep in mind of a couple of things: -Clubs on the low end (wedges and short irons) of your bag have the most room for variance when using the shot shaper and on the longer clubs there isn't nearly the same amount of variance when using said shot shaper -The higher your Distance Control stat on a club, the more variance you get when using the shot shaper. The Distance Control stat and Swing Plane stat are usually going to be inverse of each other. The higher one goes, the lower the other goes. Using that info, going from Master swing to Pro swing makes Swing Plane less important for many of us, so loading up on clubs with high Distance Control (especially those shorter clubs) help to bridge gaps in your bag on that end for most if I had to guess. This is my setup for reference: Dr 285 3W 237 3H 216 3I 201 4I 190 5I 182 6I 172 7I 160 8I 150 PW 135 GW 118 SW 104 LW 88 Despite the largest gaps occurring in the wedges, I use wedges with a decent to high Distance Control stat that can cover those gaps. With the irons being fairly close in distance, gaps are still covered with the shot shaper up to the 3I. My gaps are up above 200 where I am not expecting to get close at a high percentage anyways, so I cover the gaps at the middle to short distances. Edit: I just now noticed that this last update added more club options to buy with VCoin, so I may change my clubs slightly after showing my setup. Ha! Be aware - I noticed that many of the 'gold banner' reward clubs from career mode are no longer listed as available - I previously had the Callaway Pro irons unlocked and have 2 of them equipped in my bag. They are no longer showing in the list of clubs - but appear to have remained in my bag - so I dare not remove them else they will likely be gone forever.. I no longer see really ANY of the previous 'gold banner' clubs in any of the club lists - so IF you had/have any of those clubs equipped that are no longer available in the list - be careful switching them out as you may not be able to go back to them.. One other note - all of the clubs that were previously only available via the Clubhouse pass are/have been available to purchase with VC for a couple of months now - so it is possible you are just noticing that now. I feel sorry for the folks that paid real $ for the Clubhouse pass since all that stuff can now be bought for free with the VC.. Hmm I noticed this! IIRC I still had my callaway irons (not in the bag) but not my wedges. Maybe they both weren’t there as I checked the contract page and only saw the putter. Worst case scenario, the Ben hogans have identical stats so if you did want to try other bags, BH and Wilson’s both have identical stats I believe! What was even more weird to me is some clubs that I had unlocked are now locked. One I remember off the top of my head was the starting irons in the game. The blue rated HB irons. Strange update, but I don’t use them so I guess I’m fine. Hopefully others didn’t lose a lot! Edit: the just added the Titleist/FJ stuff the past couple days. I’ve only been playing a few months so the addition of these items is quite nice! |
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Post by cseanny on Sept 29, 2021 16:49:17 GMT -5
jazzyjp You are correct regarding distance control. Anyways, here's some recommendations, tips, and tricks to have fun out there.
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Sept 29, 2021 17:35:52 GMT -5
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Post by jazzyjp on Sept 29, 2021 17:35:52 GMT -5
jazzyjp You are correct regarding distance control. Anyways, here's some recommendations, tips, and tricks to have fun out there. Outstanding video. There is so much more to this game than I would’ve thought playing it for the three months I have. I really dig the mathematical approach. My brain works with numbers and things click much better when demonstrated this way. Gapping seems like much less of an issue seeing these tests. I truly appreciate the time and effort it took to make this for all of us golfers. I typically don’t run max angle and spin (50% and 50-100% respectively). I would be classified as not having excellent consistent tempo. Pretty good most of the time but I tend to struggle with swing plane more so randomly. For a while it’ll be straight up and down and then not so much randomly (to the left of the white line diagonally up to right of white line). I wish I could sit there for 10 mins and hit perfects in the smaller window (I watched all of that as well haha). I’m on PS4. What would be the best calibration method and should I be playing wired? So I have a question about the first part of this before the testing as all the testing makes sense to me. 1. You said if you want max angle that you should use low shot shaping clubs. Why is that the case? 2. If you have excellent tempo and use max angle to use the P790s. If you don’t have great tempo you won’t be using max angle and to use the Forged 921s. Seeing as they’re nearly the same as far forgiveness and shot shaping, how does this work and if not using max angle would it be better to have higher shot shaping? |
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Post by Cecil Harvey on Sept 29, 2021 18:27:16 GMT -5
I mix brands and that is likely the best way to go to bridge the gaps as best you can. Keep in mind of a couple of things: -Clubs on the low end (wedges and short irons) of your bag have the most room for variance when using the shot shaper and on the longer clubs there isn't nearly the same amount of variance when using said shot shaper -The higher your Distance Control stat on a club, the more variance you get when using the shot shaper. The Distance Control stat and Swing Plane stat are usually going to be inverse of each other. The higher one goes, the lower the other goes. Using that info, going from Master swing to Pro swing makes Swing Plane less important for many of us, so loading up on clubs with high Distance Control (especially those shorter clubs) help to bridge gaps in your bag on that end for most if I had to guess. This is my setup for reference: Dr 285 3W 237 3H 216 3I 201 4I 190 5I 182 6I 172 7I 160 8I 150 PW 135 GW 118 SW 104 LW 88 Despite the largest gaps occurring in the wedges, I use wedges with a decent to high Distance Control stat that can cover those gaps. With the irons being fairly close in distance, gaps are still covered with the shot shaper up to the 3I. My gaps are up above 200 where I am not expecting to get close at a high percentage anyways, so I cover the gaps at the middle to short distances. Edit: I just now noticed that this last update added more club options to buy with VCoin, so I may change my clubs slightly after showing my setup. Ha! “The higher your Distance Control stat on a club, the more variance you get when using the shot shaper.” Can you explain this? Sure. I have been wrong for 13 months. Oops, and sorry for confusing you. |
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Sept 29, 2021 18:32:02 GMT -5
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Post by jazzyjp on Sept 29, 2021 18:32:02 GMT -5
“The higher your Distance Control stat on a club, the more variance you get when using the shot shaper.” Can you explain this? Sure. I have been wrong for 13 months. Oops, and sorry for confusing you. Haha it’s no problem. I’m newer to the game and trying to figure it all out is all. I appreciate anyone taking time to discuss things! |
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Post by cseanny on Sept 29, 2021 19:54:26 GMT -5
jazzyjp The mizuno's for 3 reasons; new account w/ no calibration, better gap between pw, and primarily, not all 101% are equal, which effect everyone. The Mizuno's can hit L/R edge perfects at I'd say, in the ballpark of 101.85 to 101.9, while the TMs will hit Fast or Slow at 101.6ish or higher. I'll send you pm link showcasing.
p.s. For calibration, if you don't plan on using angle, an account which has never calibrated offers the best rounding possible.
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Post by jazzyjp on Sept 30, 2021 13:30:59 GMT -5
cseanny ah that makes sense. These clubs are all in the ballpark I like so I’ll do some testing and see which set I can take advantage of. I appreciate the testing videos kind sir. I seem to be hitting gold Titleist the most consistent (90%+) out of gold Bridges, mizunos, and the purple TM. Not sure how they perform compared to the others at 101% but my tempo seems better than before. I haven’t recalibrated, but I started playing wired and seem to have more consistent tempo. Not sure if that’s psychological without calibration being done but hey, I’m hitting dimes so no harm!
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Post by cseanny on Oct 1, 2021 6:26:09 GMT -5
jazzyjp I sent you a gift. Check your PM.
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Post by zzfr33b1rdzz on Oct 20, 2021 13:18:18 GMT -5
Be aware - I noticed that many of the 'gold banner' reward clubs from career mode are no longer listed as available - I previously had the Callaway Pro irons unlocked and have 2 of them equipped in my bag. They are no longer showing in the list of clubs - but appear to have remained in my bag - so I dare not remove them else they will likely be gone forever.. I no longer see really ANY of the previous 'gold banner' clubs in any of the club lists - so IF you had/have any of those clubs equipped that are no longer available in the list - be careful switching them out as you may not be able to go back to them.. One other note - all of the clubs that were previously only available via the Clubhouse pass are/have been available to purchase with VC for a couple of months now - so it is possible you are just noticing that now. I feel sorry for the folks that paid real $ for the Clubhouse pass since all that stuff can now be bought for free with the VC.. Hmm I noticed this! IIRC I still had my callaway irons (not in the bag) but not my wedges. Maybe they both weren’t there as I checked the contract page and only saw the putter. Worst case scenario, the Ben hogans have identical stats so if you did want to try other bags, BH and Wilson’s both have identical stats I believe! What was even more weird to me is some clubs that I had unlocked are now locked. One I remember off the top of my head was the starting irons in the game. The blue rated HB irons. Strange update, but I don’t use them so I guess I’m fine. Hopefully others didn’t lose a lot! Edit: the just added the Titleist/FJ stuff the past couple days. I’ve only been playing a few months so the addition of these items is quite nice! Apparently the gold Callaways are a known glitch - that has been fixed, but no timeframe for when we'll see it.. www.hb-studios.com/forum/index.php/topic,31586.msg373732.html#msg373732 |
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Post by pollingpoints on Oct 29, 2021 12:48:12 GMT -5
After a double demo coming in Plat this week I toyed around with my bag and am strictly running satisfying gaps. I've never used a 5 wood but I am coming around to it. Not too worried about how long my wedges are as the pitch yardages are satisfying as well. 12-18 yards is the consistent gapping.
Driver 295
3w 248
5w 230
3i 215
5i 197
6i 185
7i 172
8i 160
9i 147
PW 135
GW 123
SW 111
LW 98
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Post by meunier33 on Nov 2, 2021 14:16:48 GMT -5
Why would I possibly care what clubs are in my bag other than the distances I want?
I can't see how they could ever improve my game at all.
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Post by twofor22 on Nov 2, 2021 16:33:41 GMT -5
Why would I possibly care what clubs are in my bag other than the distances I want? I can't see how they could ever improve my game at all. Because some clubs types are easier to hit than others. Like in real life the oversized cavity back irons are more forgiving, still hitting relatively straight shots on off centre hits, whereas with a blade those hits would be all over the place. |
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