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Post by Rosebowl88 on Jun 14, 2021 4:58:25 GMT -5
Request is in
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redrhinoceros
Amateur Golfer
Posts: 248
TGCT Name: Richard Rate
Tour: CC-Pro
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Post by redrhinoceros on Jun 14, 2021 6:03:10 GMT -5
Wow! Just wow! This is about as bad as all the crying we heard about RF! Ha! Sorry we made a choice you don’t like or want.. I guess I’ll just goose step my way down the course while swinging on pro settings! Hope to see u there! Hmm, you want to be careful of those panes in your glass house. The split between people who prefer Masters or Pro is pretty much 50/50 as far as I can tell. We're like a Venn diagram of players, with a large gray area of players in the middle section who will play whatever settings are put up. Which by the way, includes Alan. It's you guys at the opposite ends who are making Dave's life a lot more difficult than it needs to be. In my opinion it's the right decision to finish this season with the same settings. Meanwhile there's also an opportunity to play the same courses on Pro and see how it looks. What's not to like about that? I agree , I am looking forward to having a bash with pro clubs on the CUCC society. Beating Berty on another society with different clubs will be very satisfying After that I will make a choice because I don’t think it’s possible to play long term with two different club settings for me … and I want to play in societies where everyone is equal. Thanks to Rhino4 for taking the trouble to give us two set ups for the rest of the season
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Post by r0nrun on Jun 14, 2021 6:49:13 GMT -5
As they say ...only women can do two things at once So i got no problem with master and pro to sum it up this is the new me
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Post by Demonondalinks on Jun 14, 2021 6:49:50 GMT -5
Few more of the CUCC requests were just accepted. Finished final round tonight with a +1 which is something I will take anytime considering I was +14 coming into the round. I had not Had some awful bounces a few times, putting was decent early but faded as I started the round with a self inflicted bogey followed by 3 birdies in a row. Tempo was for the most party pretty solid. I of course had some RFs tonight but I only think three of them were with driver or irons. The rest were made up from splashes/flops which more than anything is my biggest issue with Masters and is the complete opposite of what i have seen on Pro. I had my chances to score which is all I ask for. I really look back on that 3rd round shooting a 6 over par on a 6000yrd course as a real killer. No excuse for that. Played more relaxed tonight like I had nothing to lose rather than all tensed up knowing a few bogies early on is alot to overcome. Enjoyed the round no question and I am really liking this calibration the more I play with it. I hit it all over the yard in this tourney. But whenever i was left in a tough up and down spot for par I played for bogey so as not to have a blowup hole. Some of the play for bogeys ended up pars.
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Post by Demonondalinks on Jun 14, 2021 6:52:27 GMT -5
Lol, thanks thetaffman but "regular" = 2 all season. I was dead last two weeks ago. But I'm trying! A lot of people seem to be under the impression that all the PS4 guys stripe endless perfects while playing left handed and blindfolded. I thought my 72, 69 on the last two rounds had blown it but it seems the whole field struggled in those rounds. I'm one good week from Kinetic, and one bad week from being back to square one. Now I really don't have time to play tours but your enthusiasm to climb to another level is inspiring. Can't wait to play tomorrow. I'm gonna kick arse. Shot -5 and -6 this morning. I'll take it.
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Post by moneyman273 on Jun 14, 2021 7:11:50 GMT -5
Wow! Just wow! This is about as bad as all the crying we heard about RF! Ha! Sorry we made a choice you don’t like or want.. I guess I’ll just goose step my way down the course while swinging on pro settings! Hope to see u there! Hmm, you want to be careful of those panes in your glass house. The split between people who prefer Masters or Pro is pretty much 50/50 as far as I can tell. We're like a Venn diagram of players, with a large gray area of players in the middle section who will play whatever settings are put up. Which by the way, includes Alan. It's you guys at the opposite ends who are making Dave's life a lot more difficult than it needs to be. In my opinion it's the right decision to finish this season with the same settings. Meanwhile there's also an opportunity to play the same courses on Pro and see how it looks. What's not to like about that? Yeah um, biased much Jamie? No, we're not making anyone's life more difficult by requesting to play a difficulty which is very comparable to master swing in TGC 2019. And there has been no vote put up in thread that can confirm this 50/50 split as not everyone would end up voting anyway. So, it boils down to opinion, and as they say about opinions Here's something else to chew on: Settings on pro difficulty could be ramped up to make said difficulty much harder for many. (increased winds, wind meter off, landing circle not there, etc etc). Let's look at both sides here, as you always say. You will get FAR more players in a society actively playing when they're all shooting mostly under par (say a range of -6 to -22 per two round event) than say, 5 people total in society shooting under par (with a range of +142 to -16 per two round event).
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Post by moneyman273 on Jun 14, 2021 7:13:53 GMT -5
As they say ...only women can do two things at once So i got no problem with master and pro to sum it up this is the new me Ya dang weirdo.
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Post by r0nrun on Jun 14, 2021 7:27:24 GMT -5
As they say ...only women can do two things at once So i got no problem with master and pro to sum it up this is the new me Ya dang weirdo. I love you to 😁
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Post by OldManGaming606 on Jun 14, 2021 7:47:56 GMT -5
I agree with you berty44 I especially like how the decision process for the society is being handled. Hard to argue with the final decision based on the significant input and vetting that is occurring. Thanks Dave. Alan, Did you complain to Ken in the 50+ XB senior society about how much you dislike pro swing settings? Or ask him to gather data or put it to a vote? You seem very content there with pro swing, yes? Just wondering why that one is ok for you to play in and be happy but not others. Just an informal observation on my part. Koop, You say informal observation, but I think you meant uninformed observation. I've been playing in the 50+ Seniors Society for over 6 months. It is very well documented in my post that I play in a Pro society. You didn't "uncover" something. It was a Pro society before I made the decision to play in it, so that's what I signed up for. My expectations when I joined a Pro society is that the difficulty is set to Pro, so what exactly is it that I would have asked Ken to gather evidence for? Or what would we be voting on?
Not sure why you have a problem with my sharing with David I like how he has handled his decision process. Ok yes I am. Because another society I play in had a different decision process that I disagreed with entirely. That decision process was based on and let me quote, "Unfortunately For me and my friends that is not master as its just not fun anymore. Therefore we are going to pro"
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Post by zzfr33b1rdzz on Jun 14, 2021 8:21:47 GMT -5
Hmm, you want to be careful of those panes in your glass house. The split between people who prefer Masters or Pro is pretty much 50/50 as far as I can tell. We're like a Venn diagram of players, with a large gray area of players in the middle section who will play whatever settings are put up. Which by the way, includes Alan. It's you guys at the opposite ends who are making Dave's life a lot more difficult than it needs to be. In my opinion it's the right decision to finish this season with the same settings. Meanwhile there's also an opportunity to play the same courses on Pro and see how it looks. What's not to like about that? Yeah um, biased much Jamie? No, we're not making anyone's life more difficult by requesting to play a difficulty which is very comparable to master swing in TGC 2019. And there has been no vote put up in thread that can confirm this 50/50 split as not everyone would end up voting anyway. So, it boils down to opinion, and as they say about opinions Here's something else to chew on: Settings on pro difficulty could be ramped up to make said difficulty much harder for many. (increased winds, wind meter off, landing circle not there, etc etc). Let's look at both sides here, as you always say. You will get FAR more players in a society actively playing when they're all shooting mostly under par (say a range of -6 to -22 per two round event) than say, 5 people total in society shooting under par (with a range of +142 to -16 per two round event). So it does boil down to scoring - but I thought scoring doesn't matter..?? Confused.. Anyway I think what you're saying is the scoring does matter - that you and others would rather shoot a casual round where you score under par to some degree rather than grinding it out for MAYBE a score under par.. Either way - Those 5 people that are under on masters - will still be the same 5 people at the top of the LB on Pro, and the 'far more players' in the -16 to +142 range will still be in the same spot on the LB, just with a better score. So I say again - let's just all agree that the topic is at a point of 'beating a dead horse' and let's just get on with playing golf and stop beating each other up. There are clearly opinions on both sides - great - noted - now can we move on?
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Post by moneyman273 on Jun 14, 2021 8:26:50 GMT -5
Yeah um, biased much Jamie? No, we're not making anyone's life more difficult by requesting to play a difficulty which is very comparable to master swing in TGC 2019. And there has been no vote put up in thread that can confirm this 50/50 split as not everyone would end up voting anyway. So, it boils down to opinion, and as they say about opinions Here's something else to chew on: Settings on pro difficulty could be ramped up to make said difficulty much harder for many. (increased winds, wind meter off, landing circle not there, etc etc). Let's look at both sides here, as you always say. You will get FAR more players in a society actively playing when they're all shooting mostly under par (say a range of -6 to -22 per two round event) than say, 5 people total in society shooting under par (with a range of +142 to -16 per two round event). So it does boil down to scoring - but I thought scoring doesn't matter..?? Confused.. Anyway I think what you're saying is the scoring does matter - that you and others would rather shoot a casual round where you score under par to some degree rather than grinding it out for MAYBE a score under par.. Either way - Those 5 people that are under on masters - will still be the same 5 people at the top of the LB on Pro, and the 'far more players' in the -16 to +142 range will still be in the same spot on the LB, just with a better score. So I say again - let's just all agree that the topic is at a point of 'beating a dead horse' and let's just get on with playing golf and stop beating each other up. There are clearly opinions on both sides - great - noted - now can we move on? Never ONCE did I say scoring didn't matter Jeff. As I've stated a million times, I don't want or need to shoot -8 to -12 per round. But, I'd like to shoot UNDER PAR most of the time. And no again. When a "best effort" two round final for me is +8 and only 5 players have shot under par and the leader is at -14, it's no fun. No fun at all. If you don't want to discuss it, then don't respond. Period. I choose to respond. No one tells me when to move on.
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Post by digsb on Jun 14, 2021 8:28:25 GMT -5
Jeez, it’s a family forum...Can you guys get a room?
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Post by Giraffe72 on Jun 14, 2021 8:32:15 GMT -5
Hmm, you want to be careful of those panes in your glass house. The split between people who prefer Masters or Pro is pretty much 50/50 as far as I can tell. We're like a Venn diagram of players, with a large gray area of players in the middle section who will play whatever settings are put up. Which by the way, includes Alan. It's you guys at the opposite ends who are making Dave's life a lot more difficult than it needs to be. In my opinion it's the right decision to finish this season with the same settings. Meanwhile there's also an opportunity to play the same courses on Pro and see how it looks. What's not to like about that? Yeah um, biased much Jamie? No, we're not making anyone's life more difficult by requesting to play a difficulty which is very comparable to master swing in TGC 2019. And there has been no vote put up in thread that can confirm this 50/50 split as not everyone would end up voting anyway. So, it boils down to opinion, and as they say about opinions Here's something else to chew on: Settings on pro difficulty could be ramped up to make said difficulty much harder for many. (increased winds, wind meter off, landing circle not there, etc etc). Let's look at both sides here, as you always say. You will get FAR more players in a society actively playing when they're all shooting mostly under par (say a range of -6 to -22 per two round event) than say, 5 people total in society shooting under par (with a range of +142 to -16 per two round event). No, not really Jason. My personal preference is Masters, but I've said all along that I'm on the fence about the best way forward for this society, and that I'll play whatever is decided. What I don't really appreciate is certain people throwing their toys around when they don't get their way (even though currently EVERYONE has got their way!), and basically calling out someone like Alan who does more to try and help people on Xbox than anyone else. I honestly don't understand what the problem is? What is there, 4 weeks left of this season? We finish the season, at the same time we play on Pro and see if it works for the group, and then a more informed decision can be made from there. 4 weeks worth of Pro is a pretty good sample, I'm quite looking forward to having a go myself. So far my only experience is Divot Derby.
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Post by moneyman273 on Jun 14, 2021 8:32:32 GMT -5
Jeez, it’s a family forum...Can you guys get a room? I'm arranging one big nursing home orgy Digs. You in?
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Post by moneyman273 on Jun 14, 2021 8:33:49 GMT -5
Yeah um, biased much Jamie? No, we're not making anyone's life more difficult by requesting to play a difficulty which is very comparable to master swing in TGC 2019. And there has been no vote put up in thread that can confirm this 50/50 split as not everyone would end up voting anyway. So, it boils down to opinion, and as they say about opinions Here's something else to chew on: Settings on pro difficulty could be ramped up to make said difficulty much harder for many. (increased winds, wind meter off, landing circle not there, etc etc). Let's look at both sides here, as you always say. You will get FAR more players in a society actively playing when they're all shooting mostly under par (say a range of -6 to -22 per two round event) than say, 5 people total in society shooting under par (with a range of +142 to -16 per two round event). No, not really Jason. My personal preference is Masters, but I've said all along that I'm on the fence about the best way forward for this society, and that I'll play whatever is decided. What I don't really appreciate is certain people throwing their toys around when they don't get their way (even though currently EVERYONE has got their way!), and basically calling out someone like Alan who does more to try and help people on Xbox than anyone else. I honestly don't understand what the problem is? What is there, 4 weeks left of this season? We finish the season, at the same time we play on Pro and see if it works for the group, and then a more informed decision can be made from there. 4 weeks worth of Pro is a pretty good sample, I'm quite looking forward to having a go myself. So far my only experience is Divot Derby. Oh yeah, totally agree and certainly game to finish out the season on master difficulty. Would be silly to switch it now. Of course, I certainly will dabble with the pro difficulty "test", so to speak. Also need to remember that there WILL be other games out in the future. Keep the core community intact as we will be again together in the future. My differing opinion doesn't effect my love of this core community. That being said, I can only speak for myself
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