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Post by FRSTDWN on Mar 9, 2021 1:40:04 GMT -5
Can't stand watching him. It's like watching a high handicappers play. Hopefully he does the math on knee surgeries and back surgeries his swing speed will cause. And no one will ever be tiger. No chance.
I predict a out of shape guy will be the new tiger eventually.
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Post by mc23 on Mar 9, 2021 2:05:19 GMT -5
My opinion is I doubt it has any effect on golfers unless your a scratch golfer or better anyways.. I'm a 26 yr old so called heavy hitter at my club and can barely get it over 300yd on my best drives probably 1/10 haha... But how often are any of us paying 500$ to get on a pebble Beach or even 300 to play at TPC Boston no thanks howver maybe once a year I'll get invited to a good tournament at a NICE course, I'll take my 900$ local membership.. there's also a ton of guys who can Out hit Bryson and whoever else on the long drive tour but last I checked anytime any off them try to play on the tour there not even close...
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Post by PicnicGuy / BobalooNOLA on Mar 9, 2021 13:53:34 GMT -5
Bryson's only 8 for 117, and his best full season was two years ago. Certainly a dynamic player to watch, but the competitive results are not awe-inspiring to me. That #1 spot in money at $4.4 million this season inspires some awe though I remember being in awe when Jack won $300K in '72, so that's just inflation & athletes being overvalued. IMO.
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Post by robn on Mar 9, 2021 14:25:12 GMT -5
I answered no. Sure, he'll have his moments but he isn't changing squat. I'd be far, far more surprised to see him win a bunch and occupy no.1 for a long time than I would to see him crash and burn. Good luck to him and all that, but there's more to golf than sending it out there miles and, one way or another, there always will be.
I also don't particularly like him. I get a strong vibe of insincerity off him.
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Post by nevadaballin on Mar 9, 2021 16:22:02 GMT -5
That #1 spot in money at $4.4 million this season inspires some awe though I remember being in awe when Jack won $300K in '72, so that's just inflation & athletes being overvalued. IMO. Regardless of inflation and being overpaid, he is still #1 for the season so far. That doesn’t happen if you don’t play well. Of course, it would be different if golf tourneys were winner-take-all events. But not the case. Bryson has moved the needle in golf. I guarantee you that there are college golfers hitting the gym alongside the other power sport athletes these days to get bigger and stronger because of BAD. I can’t write him off as no big deal. He will be the reason that the PGA begins to seriously consider distance restricted balls. They can’t keep expanding and building longer golf courses.
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Post by sroel908 on Mar 9, 2021 16:35:48 GMT -5
I don't know what Bryson DeChambeau's impact will truly be on golf as it goes into the future, but those that run the events are certainly making decisions based on how he plays right at this very moment...
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Post by FRSTDWN on Mar 9, 2021 16:40:51 GMT -5
Overvalued lmao. Easy to say if you shoot 100 a round from the whites or only play video games. Golf is the hardest game period. You gotta play 4 days deal with changing conditions and whatever life throws at you. No other sport requires this.
He's overated more than anything. No needle moved. Tiger has it pinned in the red. No pun intended.
Certain people love to change things because of success no matter how short lived it is. Maybe they should go back to hickory shafts and the feathery ball. Just so everyone can feel better about themselves.
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Post by hallzballz6908 on Mar 9, 2021 19:53:53 GMT -5
I think we’ll see a boom of more athletic players trying to play golf for about 10 years similar to what happened when Tiger exploded onto the scene in 1996. Hitting balls a long way with anything seems to be one of those things that for some reason just gets people’s blood flowing. It’s like the guy on a baseball team that strikes out 200 times a year but every now and then hits a dinger that doesn’t land until the next day. I think what Bryson is doing is cool but more from a mad scientist perspective rather than a “better way to play the game” perspective. Hitting it 380 is obviously an advantage most of the time but golf will always be more about the short game than how far you can hit it. Long drive guys routinely hit it over 400 but are not particularly good players. Bryson is admittedly fun to watch but, as others have already stated, I’d like to see some consistent results before I give any credence to the “he’s changing the way the game is played” notion.
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Post by hallzballz6908 on Mar 9, 2021 20:02:45 GMT -5
I remember being in awe when Jack won $300K in '72, so that's just inflation & athletes being overvalued. IMO. Regardless of inflation and being overpaid, he is still #1 for the season so far. That doesn’t happen if you don’t play well. Of course, it would be different if golf tourneys were winner-take-all events. But not the case. Bryson has moved the needle in golf. I guarantee you that there are college golfers hitting the gym alongside the other power sport athletes these days to get bigger and stronger because of BAD. I can’t write him off as no big deal. He will be the reason that the PGA begins to seriously consider distance restricted balls. They can’t keep expanding and building longer golf courses. The PGA shouldn’t build longer courses! It’s all the “Tiger-proofing” BS that started this infatuation with length in the first place! Longer courses penalize shorter hitters much more than the longer ones. I think the answer for combatting guys like Bryson is to introduce more penal hazards in the areas where the “big bombers” are hitting it. Make more risk be involved for driving it 365 yards on a 450 yard hole.
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Post by dime5150 on Mar 9, 2021 22:57:30 GMT -5
No he won’t change the game very few can get that big and effectively golf, too bulky and slower reflexes, Bryson has already written his name in the hall of fame even if he retired tomorrow however, so no one can take what he has done away
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Post by dime5150 on Mar 9, 2021 23:01:03 GMT -5
Every track should have one 800 yard par 5, that would be interesting
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Post by nevadaballin on Mar 10, 2021 0:19:09 GMT -5
No he won’t change the game very few can get that big and effectively golf, too bulky and slower reflexes, Bryson has already written his name in the hall of fame even if he retired tomorrow however, so no one can take what he has done away Very few now though. These bombers like Bryson, Rory, DJ, they are all having an influence on the next generation. Won’t be long until someone is out driving DeChambeau.
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Post by Sandy Russell on Mar 10, 2021 14:03:49 GMT -5
"... Bryson ... has no chance on courses like TPC Sawgrass this week..." **************************
Exactly. What wins at Sawgrass is accuracy. Is outrageous length helpful? Sure it is. But is it critical to winning at Sawgrass? No, accuracy (& some degree of length lol) is. If he ends up in the sawgrass behind a palm tree somewhere, Bryson's 370 yard drive will be about as useful as his monster drive @ #6 was where his birdie was no different than the many birdies achieved by the 'mere mortals'.
To me, golf is more exciting [to watch] if there are two (or three) necessarily great & challenging shots to the green, rather than [what is becoming] the one monster drive followed by the [relatively] easy wedge or very short iron. Perhaps the answer to the ever-increasing size & athleticism of pro golfers' impact on changing the nature of the game of golf is not to be found entirely in course-lengthening, but perhaps in both lengthening in conjunction with modifications to course design & layout with more challenging land-sculpting, plantings & designs (trees, water hazards, etc.). I also strongly believe that changes in the design of the golf ball ("deadening"/damping, etc.) should be, at the very least, considered.
The most boring time in golf in my view was the transitional period between the advent of the modern-day super-hitters (beginning in the late 80s & 90s, due to the changes in equipment and in athleticism) and the incremental lengthening that began to take place thereafter. During that transitional time, golf devolved into mostly two elements: the huge drive followed by the short wedge or, at most, 9-iron (and, of course, putting).
At the end of the day, I think what we all would like to see is exciting golf, not mere long-ball competitions. If I want to be wowed by the long-ball hitters, I will watch their range practice sessions lol.
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Post by sanchez on Mar 10, 2021 15:06:31 GMT -5
To say Bryson has no chance is very stupid..though back to back wins are very rare it is possible..and he without doubt has the game..his game is not totally smash it long..i personally think Jordan will win this week but Bryson is more than a smash long player..he is no Tiger no one is..but he is better than people give him credit for.
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Post by lessthanbread on Mar 10, 2021 16:05:58 GMT -5
I posed the OP just to get conversation going on the subject because I find it a very interesting time in golf but I’ll weigh in on what I think.
I do think Bryson has set a new bar that others will follow. Does that mean everyone on tour will be bombers? Absolutely not, but I think you’ll see more young golfers coming up with huge power because it has obviously worked for him.
I do not believe Bryson will become one of the GOATs. I think he has the skills to do it, clearly he is able to take over a tournament at any given moment like the GOATs did, but I think the very high level of his fellow competitors and other equally highly skilled golfers will come up and hold him back from full dominance. There’s just too many amazing golfers on tour for anyone to really separate themselves right now
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