theboldb
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Post by theboldb on Mar 18, 2021 14:01:00 GMT -5
I've done some pot bunkers on the latest course, but they're very unsatisfactory... just cant get the sides steep enough.
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Post by hallzballz6908 on Mar 19, 2021 4:40:28 GMT -5
I've done some pot bunkers on the latest course, but they're very unsatisfactory... just cant get the sides steep enough. And you never will, sadly. The game simply won’t do it. It’s so frustrating when a ball hangs in the rough instead of rolling into the bunker as it should 🤬. Only way you can do the steep walls is to use retaining walls or objects but you will get some wacky bounces. Post a pic if you can. I’d like to see how they look👍🏻.
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theboldb
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Post by theboldb on Mar 19, 2021 16:18:37 GMT -5
This is one of my pot bunkers.
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theboldb
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Post by theboldb on Mar 23, 2021 17:41:03 GMT -5
So, would a course that used objects to create the steep walled pot bunkers be approved for tour use, or is that an auto reject? Perhaps b101 or mattyfromcanada could comment?
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Post by mattyfromcanada on Mar 23, 2021 20:12:07 GMT -5
So, would a course that used objects to create the steep walled pot bunkers be approved for tour use, or is that an auto reject? Perhaps b101 or mattyfromcanada could comment? No issues with something like that.
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Post by hallzballz6908 on Mar 24, 2021 2:15:45 GMT -5
This is one of my pot bunkers.
I’d say that’s about as good as you’re gonna get. It looks pretty good IMHO.
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Post by axelvonfersen on Mar 24, 2021 5:13:42 GMT -5
I’d also recommend, if you’ve not done a links before, just practicing with bunker sculpting, particularly if you’re going for pots. Don’t underestimate just how tough it is to make the pots look natural and play the way you want them to in terms of balls feeding into them. I found it difficult to make the pots look like they fitted into the surrounding land as opposed to just looking like I’d plonked down a hole in the middle of a fairway. I think they turned out ok in the end but this was probably the most time-consuming element of the course. Have a look at Dunstan Head and if there’s anything in there that you like (or want to avoid doing) and want to chat though - just drop me a DM. Sometimes I think it's tough to make pot bunkers natural because they seem like the least natural element of a links course anyway. The majority of the time they're perfect flat circles of sand with no undulation in a depression of land that can look more like a manmade shape than the rest of the natural undulating land. I love pot bunkers and they're one of golf's oldest traditions, but I wonder how natural they really are. "Pot bunkers originated on the earliest golf courses, Scottish seaside links, as natural depressions in the linksland. ... That feature eventually led designers of inland golf courses in Britain to begin purposefully building pot bunkers on golf courses"
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Post by williamwes626 on Mar 26, 2021 7:14:07 GMT -5
Sometimes I think it's tough to make pot bunkers natural because they seem like the least natural element of a links course anyway. The majority of the time they're perfect flat circles of sand with no undulation in a depression of land that can look more like a manmade shape than the rest of the natural undulating land. I love pot bunkers and they're one of golf's oldest traditions, but I wonder how natural they really are. "Pot bunkers originated on the earliest golf courses, Scottish seaside links, as natural depressions in the linksland. ... That feature eventually led designers of inland golf courses in Britain to begin purposefully building pot bunkers on golf courses" That's a quote I read that I based my comment on that's correct Axel. The origin and inspiration can't look so perfect - always a smooth - usually exact circle, always a steep wall on only one side, perfect grassy turf around it. Natural depressions would have less smooth shaping, the angle of the exterior that usually (not always) tilts just right for the tee shot view, the sand would be sloppier not perfectly smooth and raked. A dune just looks more natural to me. Then again, a lot of things on golf courses that people say look natural just looks manmade to me - I can't convince myself someone didn't design it. Something like disc golf looks really like untouched land for a comparison.
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theboldb
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Post by theboldb on Mar 26, 2021 8:51:12 GMT -5
I'm not really a fan of pot bunkers myself, I prefer the more ragged looking bunkers. However, as I'm currently designing a links course, I thought I'd better put some in there. I hate having to put a collar of rough around them, it hinders balls feeding into them. Has anyone tried doing rough only on the high side, so it surrounds the bunker in more of an elliptical shape?
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Post by hallzballz6908 on Mar 26, 2021 11:32:04 GMT -5
I'm not really a fan of pot bunkers myself, I prefer the more ragged looking bunkers. However, as I'm currently designing a links course, I thought I'd better put some in there. I hate having to put a collar of rough around them, it hinders balls feeding into them. Has anyone tried doing rough only on the high side, so it surrounds the bunker in more of an elliptical shape? I’ve done it. It’s a real pain in the ass though to make it look just right and they still don’t play like you’d want them to. If I could offer some advice, nailing the look of the pot bunkers should be your primary concern here. The current game physics don’t allow them to play as they should and there’s not really much point in fighting it. Get the look you want, set the sand firmness and roll settings as low as they can go, and call it good.
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Post by hallzballz6908 on Mar 26, 2021 11:40:30 GMT -5
here’s a few examples of some pots I’ve done with elliptical rough collars.
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theboldb
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Post by theboldb on Mar 26, 2021 17:28:20 GMT -5
Those look really nice. Blended into the fairway nicely.
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