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Post by cd06 on Feb 25, 2021 8:53:22 GMT -5
Is the yellow square box a problem... on console? That's what I do - sometimes I'll screenshot an area of a WIP on a Mac after transferring it, but the quality gets awful when I do, so I just leave the yellow box in. It's not a huge deal but you should try and crop it out in a competed course thread. There's a million new courses coming out so you want to stand out, in a good way. Use the yellow box as a guide when taking a photo and crop it out before posting. It will show off the same area you want without the distracting yellow lines. I'm probably gonna try for big write-ups so cropping it out for a Mantis or BSV-style course tour would probably be best. Expect a big write up on my Design League entry!
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Post by TeeeJ9798 on Feb 25, 2021 10:56:51 GMT -5
Bonus: Thread photos with the yellow square box showing cause they didn't set the image size. Is the yellow square box a problem... on console? That's what I do - sometimes I'll screenshot an area of a WIP on a Mac after transferring it, but the quality gets awful when I do, so I just leave the yellow box in. You can publish your course, open the course as an unpublished course, remove all holes and measurements. Then, take a screen shot immediately after hitting the start button and you can take a normal screenshot on console.
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Post by sroel908 on Feb 25, 2021 11:01:32 GMT -5
Is the yellow square box a problem... on console? That's what I do - sometimes I'll screenshot an area of a WIP on a Mac after transferring it, but the quality gets awful when I do, so I just leave the yellow box in. You can publish your course, open the course as an unpublished course, remove all holes and measurements. Then, take a screen shot immediately after hitting the start button and you can take a normal screenshot on console. Sorry if this is a silly question, but what do you mean "remove all holes"? Does that mean deleting all holes? And if you do that, won't that remove things like flags and tee markers? Just curious, as I have not done that before.
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Post by TeeeJ9798 on Feb 25, 2021 12:09:01 GMT -5
You can publish your course, open the course as an unpublished course, remove all holes and measurements. Then, take a screen shot immediately after hitting the start button and you can take a normal screenshot on console. Sorry if this is a silly question, but what do you mean "remove all holes"? Does that mean deleting all holes? And if you do that, won't that remove things like flags and tee markers? Just curious, as I have not done that before. Yes. You literally remove the holes.
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Post by sroel908 on Feb 25, 2021 12:21:53 GMT -5
Sorry if this is a silly question, but what do you mean "remove all holes"? Does that mean deleting all holes? And if you do that, won't that remove things like flags and tee markers? Just curious, as I have not done that before. Yes. You literally remove the holes. Ok, gotcha - thanks for verifying! I can see this being beneficial from the standpoint that the waypoints and lines are removed. But I tend to like to incorporate green complexes and views from the tee in a lot of my screenshots. So if the flags and tee markers are gone, that might not totally work for me. But, like I said, I do understand the concept and can see it working when taking pics of other parts of the course. Seems it might be personal choice kind of thing, and for me, it might just be easier to crop the photo and keep the tees/flags. Anyway, sorry for the tangent - back on topic, my pet peeve is having greens that are almost all covered in shadows with just a bit of light poking through, especially when playing in high winds. A bit of shadow is fine, and fully shadowed could also work because at least it's consistent. But sometimes, greens are just covered in lots of shadow, as well as some sunlight and the green grid, and that combination makes putts very hard to judge. Plus, when the winds are up, the shadows make it even more difficult, as the sunlight goes in and out with the movement of the trees, and the shadows of the branches moving around is completely distracting. Perhaps that's not something I can't completely pin on the designer, as winds are random and not determined by them. But when I find myself in a situation where I'm playing one of these greens, it really bugs me...
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Post by Lifeonaboard on Feb 26, 2021 1:43:15 GMT -5
Yes. You literally remove the holes. Ok, gotcha - thanks for verifying! I can see this being beneficial from the standpoint that the waypoints and lines are removed. But I tend to like to incorporate green complexes and views from the tee in a lot of my screenshots. So if the flags and tee markers are gone, that might not totally work for me. But, like I said, I do understand the concept and can see it working when taking pics of other parts of the course. Seems it might be personal choice kind of thing, and for me, it might just be easier to crop the photo and keep the tees/flags. Anyway, sorry for the tangent - back on topic, my pet peeve is having greens that are almost all covered in shadows with just a bit of light poking through, especially when playing in high winds. A bit of shadow is fine, and fully shadowed could also work because at least it's consistent. But sometimes, greens are just covered in lots of shadow, as well as some sunlight and the green grid, and that combination makes putts very hard to judge. Plus, when the winds are up, the shadows make it even more difficult, as the sunlight goes in and out with the movement of the trees, and the shadows of the branches moving around is completely distracting. Perhaps that's not something I can't completely pin on the designer, as winds are random and not determined by them. But when I find myself in a situation where I'm playing one of these greens, it really bugs me... I have a slightly different way of taking screenshots on Xbox. While playtesting turn off green grid, aim marker, pin marker or any other things like that. Then use scout cam to get the angle that you want for your photo. Then use the pause trick to hide whatever is left of your HUD. That is an almost perfect system on console, the only downside is that you don't have a full free cam. As for the shadows on greens thing, you can 100% blame it on the designer (unless you change the default lighting). I also can't stand leafy shadows across greens so for my last few courses I've taken great care to make sure that all shadows miss the greens unless it is absolutely necessary. On Little Cliff there is one green completely in shadow behind the mountain and on Logfell only one tall tree trunk across a green that isn't near any pin locations. It's not something that is easy to play attention to but it helps playability and visuals a lot. It's also worth paying attention to shadows falling across bunkers as well since a shadowy bunker face doesn't pop out nearly as much. I guess to bring this post back on topic I'll say that people playing a course for the first time with non default lighting really bugs me. If people want to change it for a second or third playthrough that's fine but the first impression of a course should always be with default lighting.
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Post by PicnicGuy / BobalooNOLA on Feb 26, 2021 13:00:03 GMT -5
"I guess to bring this post back on topic I'll say that people playing a course for the first time with non default lighting really bugs me. If people want to change it for a second or third playthrough that's fine but the first impression of a course should always be with default lighting."
Really more of a "players" peeve than a "design" one. But it is why a course should be at least decent in all lighting, and lighting should never be a factor in how it plays. In my opinion, obviously.
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Post by 15eicheltower9 on Feb 26, 2021 17:57:22 GMT -5
Biggest pet peeve is when designers think it's possible to make a course look decent in all lighting.
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Post by PicnicGuy / BobalooNOLA on Feb 26, 2021 18:45:44 GMT -5
Biggest pet peeve is when designers think it's possible to make a course look decent in all lighting. Some have done it (certainly not me), although dawn is usually skirting the edge more than dusk, imo. Maybe it's the preponderance of coastal course designers showing off sunsets to the detriment of East-facing features in the morning. I do know I CAN make one look consistently terrible in all lighting, if that's ever in vogue 😅 or if you need tips ! Anyone else 'peeved' by islands or other crossings without a visible way to get there ? I'd rather an impractical bridge (someone else's peeve, I realize) or a boat pier than nothing.
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Post by robn on Mar 1, 2021 17:20:13 GMT -5
Biggest pet peeve is when designers think it's possible to make a course look decent in all lighting. Some have done it (certainly not me), although dawn is usually skirting the edge more than dusk, imo. Maybe it's the preponderance of coastal course designers showing off sunsets to the detriment of East-facing features in the morning. I do know I CAN make one look consistently terrible in all lighting, if that's ever in vogue 😅 or if you need tips ! Anyone else 'peeved' by islands or other crossings without a visible way to get there ? I'd rather an impractical bridge (someone else's peeve, I realize) or a boat pier than nothing. Here's a peeve of mine. You take the time to play a course and drop a little feedback in their course thread. In my case (if I say anything, I wont if I just didnt like it, but might fire off a PM) generally exclusively positive, or mostly positive framed around a lil constructive criticism. Only for the designer not to acknowledge it in any way shape or form. Grrrrrr.... I'll put god dang manners on this place yet.
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Post by mvpmanatee on Mar 1, 2021 17:57:30 GMT -5
Some have done it (certainly not me), although dawn is usually skirting the edge more than dusk, imo. Maybe it's the preponderance of coastal course designers showing off sunsets to the detriment of East-facing features in the morning. I do know I CAN make one look consistently terrible in all lighting, if that's ever in vogue 😅 or if you need tips ! Anyone else 'peeved' by islands or other crossings without a visible way to get there ? I'd rather an impractical bridge (someone else's peeve, I realize) or a boat pier than nothing. Here's a peeve of mine. You take the time to play a course and drop a little feedback in their course thread. In my case (if I say anything, I wont if I just didnt like it, but might fire off a PM) generally exclusively positive, or mostly positive framed around a lil constructive criticism. Only for the designer not to acknowledge it in any way shape or form. Grrrrrr.... I'll put god dang manners on this place yet. I am sure that any good designer will notice it and internalize it, but might not have anything to say in return to the feedback. also sometimes course threads get quite busy, and most designers aren't checking the forum as much, as they don't always play the tour rounds themselves. any feedback on a course is important to any good designer, i just wouldn't expect any gratification that comes with commenting on a course. I know from my own experience, that I usually like most posts, as I can't individually comment on each, and I am not even a big designer.
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Post by robn on Mar 1, 2021 18:03:07 GMT -5
Here's a peeve of mine. You take the time to play a course and drop a little feedback in their course thread. In my case (if I say anything, I wont if I just didnt like it, but might fire off a PM) generally exclusively positive, or mostly positive framed around a lil constructive criticism. Only for the designer not to acknowledge it in any way shape or form. Grrrrrr.... I'll put god dang manners on this place yet. I am sure that any good designer will notice it and internalize it, but might not have anything to say in return to the feedback. also sometimes course threads get quite busy, and most designers aren't checking the forum as much, as they don't always play the tour rounds themselves. any feedback on a course is important to any good designer, i just wouldn't expect any gratification that comes with commenting on a course. I know from my own experience, that I usually like most posts, as I can't individually comment on each, and I am not even a big designer. Ah now here, they don't get that busy 😆. But you're right, it does take enormous effort to hit that like button...or if that's not your thing (or appropriate), reply with a 'thanks for the play'. (But don't ruin it, I'm just trying to get a rise outta Bob here)...
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Post by robn on Mar 1, 2021 19:09:30 GMT -5
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Post by PicnicGuy / BobalooNOLA on Mar 2, 2021 8:14:50 GMT -5
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Post by robn on Mar 2, 2021 8:45:57 GMT -5
#neverforget
#haventsleptsincelastjune
Cheer up Bob. It's all good really!
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