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Post by mde103 on Feb 2, 2021 8:54:35 GMT -5
Beta is published as kcbeta002. My second course is well into development. The course was loosely inspired the property at Bandon. The course traverses woodlands, dunes, and coastline. The front 9 is par 38 around 3,900 yards, and the back 9 is par 34 around 3,300 yards. Most of the major sculpting and surfacing is complete. I still have a lot of planting to do though. I need to refine/redo the cliffs and minor sculpting changes. I’ll update this thread as I go and will probably post a beta once there’s some more planting. imgur.com/gallery/qpJhBXY
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Post by HoneyBadgerHacker on Feb 2, 2021 9:00:50 GMT -5
Like your idea in regards to the woodlands, dunes, and coast land. I wouldn’t suggest having par more than 37 and also would try to keep the yardage under 3700 max recommend under 3600. Like your pics so far.
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Post by hallzballz6908 on Feb 2, 2021 12:38:30 GMT -5
Like the clean look you have going on this one so far despite being the course being in a more rugged setting. Your planting looks super natural 👍🏻. Look forward to your beta
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Post by mde103 on Feb 2, 2021 13:44:10 GMT -5
Thank you both. The tees and greens are pretty much set now, but I can probably move the clubhouse to make the 9s more even in terms of length.
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Post by hallzballz6908 on Feb 2, 2021 15:50:26 GMT -5
Thank you both. The tees and greens are pretty much set now, but I can probably move the clubhouse to make the 9s more even in terms of length. As long as they play well and are interesting, I wouldn’t worry about the nines being different lengths. I played a course the other day that was a par 34-38 - 72. Played well and was fun in a quirky kind of way. Can you post a routing pic?
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Post by mde103 on Feb 2, 2021 18:58:46 GMT -5
Thank you both. The tees and greens are pretty much set now, but I can probably move the clubhouse to make the 9s more even in terms of length. As long as they play well and are interesting, I wouldn’t worry about the nines being different lengths. I played a course the other day that was a par 34-38 - 72. Played well and was fun in a quirky kind of way. Can you post a routing pic? Here is an attempt at an overview picture. I have other places that I can put the clubhouse, but I’ll probably wait until after the beta to change if I do. i.imgur.com/pE8jM13.jpg
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Post by mde103 on Feb 8, 2021 9:33:45 GMT -5
Planting is painfully slow on the PS4. Some updated pictures are attached. I play tested some this weekend and will spend this week making some modifications to greens and fairways to make the holes play as intended. imgur.com/gallery/PFlq2MF
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Post by mctrees02 on Feb 9, 2021 11:58:05 GMT -5
Like your idea in regards to the woodlands, dunes, and coast land. I wouldn’t suggest having par more than 37 and also would try to keep the yardage under 3700 max recommend under 3600. Like your pics so far. Why does par matter? The goal of any architect should be to find the best possible 18 hole routing and build the best holes they can on that routing. What the par is along the way doesn't matter much if the overall routing puts together a complete course at a reasonable length (of which 7200y certainly is). A few examples: Old Macdonald - par 71 at 6944y. The splits are 34/37 with yardages of 3076 and 3868 (792y spread over 3 shots to par) Sheep Ranch - par 72 at 6636y. The splits are 34/38 with yardages of 3102 and 3534 (432y spread over 4 shots to par) Sand Hills - Par 71 at 7089. The splits are 35/36 with yardages of 3370 or 3294 depending on wind direction/tee box setup and 3719. (349y or 425y spread over 1 shot to par). Par is just a number on a scorecard that helps players/spectators in a tournament setting better understand where everyone stands as the event progresses. When you play a hole, your object is to get the ball in the hole in as few shots as possible whether the scorecard says par 3, 4, or 5. I can build a 270y par 3 or a 255y par 4 and you'll still be trying to hit the green in one shot and make the putt. The same applies with a 515y par 4 or a 500y par 5. Hit your drive as far as possible, hit your approach onto the green and try to make the putt.
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Post by HoneyBadgerHacker on Feb 9, 2021 14:55:42 GMT -5
Like your idea in regards to the woodlands, dunes, and coast land. I wouldn’t suggest having par more than 37 and also would try to keep the yardage under 3700 max recommend under 3600. Like your pics so far. Why does par matter? The goal of any architect should be to find the best possible 18 hole routing and build the best holes they can on that routing. What the par is along the way doesn't matter much if the overall routing puts together a complete course at a reasonable length (of which 7200y certainly is). A few examples: Old Macdonald - par 71 at 6944y. The splits are 34/37 with yardages of 3076 and 3868 (792y spread over 3 shots to par) Sheep Ranch - par 72 at 6636y. The splits are 34/38 with yardages of 3102 and 3534 (432y spread over 4 shots to par) Sand Hills - Par 71 at 7089. The splits are 35/36 with yardages of 3370 or 3294 depending on wind direction/tee box setup and 3719. (349y or 425y spread over 1 shot to par). Par is just a number on a scorecard that helps players/spectators in a tournament setting better understand where everyone stands as the event progresses. When you play a hole, your object is to get the ball in the hole in as few shots as possible whether the scorecard says par 3, 4, or 5. I can build a 270y par 3 or a 255y par 4 and you'll still be trying to hit the green in one shot and make the putt. The same applies with a 515y par 4 or a 500y par 5. Hit your drive as far as possible, hit your approach onto the green and try to make the putt. Just a suggestion that would seem to many as the norm. Usually if par is above 37 your length of the nine would tend to play longer. To me it’s about consistency and balance. I’m sure there are several courses that have odd pars and lengths per nine but again I just don’t think it’s the norm. Feel free to make par anything you want, just not sure everyone will like it.
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Post by mde103 on Feb 13, 2021 0:32:40 GMT -5
A beta has been published as kcbeta001. Any feedback on the course would be greatly appreciated. I feel good about 1-16 (at least for a second course), but I am getting more and more frustrated with 17 and 18. The 17th is a blind par 3 loosely inspired by the Himalayas hole at Prestwick and the 4th at Sweetens Cove. I liked the idea at first, but I think it’s a bit much now. The 18th has been blown up 3 times. I’ve got the general idea that I want, but I can’t get it to play well. Both holes have poor lighting, so that doesn’t help.
Things still to do:
Finish planting - I still have a lot of room on the plant meter. Sculpt/plant borders Touch up cliffs - a little too jagged and the base needs to be cleaned up a bit.
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Post by lucheyschoe on Feb 15, 2021 21:48:47 GMT -5
A beta has been published as kcbeta001. Any feedback on the course would be greatly appreciated. I feel good about 1-16 (at least for a second course), but I am getting more and more frustrated with 17 and 18. The 17th is a blind par 3 loosely inspired by the Himalayas hole at Prestwick and the 4th at Sweetens Cove. I liked the idea at first, but I think it’s a bit much now. The 18th has been blown up 3 times. I’ve got the general idea that I want, but I can’t get it to play well. Both holes have poor lighting, so that doesn’t help. Things still to do: Finish planting - I still have a lot of room on the plant meter. Sculpt/plant borders Touch up cliffs - a little too jagged and the base needs to be cleaned up a bit. I’ll give your beta a run tomorrow and DM you feedback.
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Post by mde103 on Feb 16, 2021 15:11:41 GMT -5
A few pictures of the planting done this week. During play testing, I’ve found a few issues on green slopes that will be fixed. I also believe that I will stick with 17 and 18 from the beta unless I get feedback that suggests otherwise. I plan to rework 17 green and still have sculpting/surfacing work to make 18 play more like I envision it. i.imgur.com/zGXBR2E.jpg
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Post by hallzballz6908 on Feb 16, 2021 15:39:28 GMT -5
A few pictures of the planting done this week. During play testing, I’ve found a few issues on green slopes that will be fixed. I also believe that I will stick with 17 and 18 from the beta unless I get feedback that suggests otherwise. I plan to rework 17 green and still have sculpting/surfacing work to make 18 play more like I envision it. i.imgur.com/zGXBR2E.jpgHey bud I’ve been planning on playing your beta just haven’t gotten to it yet. Hopefully tonight if you’re still interested in some feedback.
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Post by mde103 on Feb 16, 2021 16:07:38 GMT -5
A few pictures of the planting done this week. During play testing, I’ve found a few issues on green slopes that will be fixed. I also believe that I will stick with 17 and 18 from the beta unless I get feedback that suggests otherwise. I plan to rework 17 green and still have sculpting/surfacing work to make 18 play more like I envision it. i.imgur.com/zGXBR2E.jpgHey bud I’ve been planning on playing your beta just haven’t gotten to it yet. Hopefully tonight if you’re still interested in some feedback. That would be great. It’s no rush though! I’ve still got plenty of planting/tidying up to keep me busy for a while.
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Post by j3ngs_ on Feb 16, 2021 16:54:22 GMT -5
My second course is well into development. The course was loosely inspired the property at Bandon. The course traverses woodlands, dunes, and coastline. The front 9 is par 38 around 3,900 yards, and the back 9 is par 34 around 3,300 yards. Most of the major sculpting and surfacing is complete. I still have a lot of planting to do though. I need to refine/redo the cliffs and minor sculpting changes. I’ll update this thread as I go and will probably post a beta once there’s some more planting. imgur.com/gallery/qpJhBXYHow did you get this fescue look? Been trying to do something like that for weeks now but I can't figure it out.
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