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Post by trailducker on Jan 31, 2021 17:30:44 GMT -5
3.5 / 5 There were a few places where the grass went that it shouldn't have gone. Like number two's tee. I loved your tee markers, very original. Number two is also a great hole with the split Fairway. I did not like the color scheme of the grass , but the Wild west desert areas for perfect. Fantastic logo btw. The bridge across the canyon with little bit wonky when you tried to combine two different types, and 9's bridge was too low. But the waterfalls were well done in my opinion. Overall a good course. Thanks Joesklad! Yeah I was using the concrete bridge to at least look plausible structurally as that's a long ass gap for that smaller bridge to span over the canyon, but where they meet is a bit wonky because of that.
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Post by WhatAboutAmeobi on Jan 31, 2021 17:34:04 GMT -5
Play through / review. I had a couple of incidents on 11 and 17... Thank you so much Ameobi! Sorry to trigger you with the rocks! So you know most of the distances are the same as the beta you played but I did alot of adjusting with the scultping to make holes play more in the distances I was intending. My friend found that issue on 17 last night and told me about it and that was a big mistake by me missing that. It never came up in a beta and I blindly never playtested from there. I should have made it further out so in low or face winds you could hit driver and if you went through you had a shot in. 11 I feel would be annoying if you go down that hill but it's also very apparent that hill is there and it's part of the gamble. If you tip toe along those edges you play with having to take an unplayable lie. 1 I should have made that lake not as big to not take driver out as much as it does. I wanted the first hole to be harder but that is a bit too much on the penal side. You can clear it with no or helping winds but yeah any winds in your face and the hole is a bit too much on the difficult side then I meant for. By the time I realized that it was all built out and I decided to take the hit on it rather then completely rebuild the lake and that little waterfall on it. At that point I wanted to publish and move one hahaha But 17 is I think the hole that would (and should) keep me from a Tour Worthy designation. My view on the rocks. I totally understand your concern with their unpredicatability. My view is I never hide them, you know they are there and it's your responsiblity to avoid them. The course itself is pretty straightforward and attackable so my haxards being a bit more penal if you hit them of typical hazards felt like an appropriate compremise. Plus rocks can also be a help at times. I did ramp up the back of the fairways where rocks are in them so your ball should roll off them to not tuck you behind (between you and the hole) if you hit a shot into a rock. Hole 15 I kept going back and forth on making it a long Par 4 or a Par 5 and it's just very dependant on the wind. You obviosuly had a helping wind on this playthrough, it plays more like a par 5 with a head wind or a cross wind. I did make the green a bit more difficult from the beta so you need a good shot (like the great one you hit) to hold it and make eagle. I also feel having that reletively easy hole follow the difficult last three holes was a compremise I ultimately was fine with. Again thank you so much for the playthrough! I hope besides the hiccups and the rocks you enjoyed it! Not sure if I'll every make a bunkerless course again, haha but glad I did and it came out playable. Yeah, I was a bit perturbed on 11, but like I said in the video and you wrote above, it's apparent that it's there and it's easy to avoid. Poor course management by me, but hilarious that I ended up in it after saying there was no reason not to just bash driver up here :-) 17 is unfortunate, but it happens. Re: the rocks, it's a personal bias. I'm still bitter about a hidden rock at the Quarry 18 of Fanshawe Golf Club taking a chunk out of my lob wedge in 1999. The only rocks I had an actual issue with were the ones in front of the green on the par 3 with the shallow green and OB over the back. Hitting those rocks and bouncing OB would be a bit much. The rest were just me yelling at kids to get off my lawn.
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Post by trailducker on Jan 31, 2021 17:40:10 GMT -5
Thank you so much Ameobi! Sorry to trigger you with the rocks! So you know most of the distances are the same as the beta you played but I did alot of adjusting with the scultping to make holes play more in the distances I was intending. My friend found that issue on 17 last night and told me about it and that was a big mistake by me missing that. It never came up in a beta and I blindly never playtested from there. I should have made it further out so in low or face winds you could hit driver and if you went through you had a shot in. 11 I feel would be annoying if you go down that hill but it's also very apparent that hill is there and it's part of the gamble. If you tip toe along those edges you play with having to take an unplayable lie. 1 I should have made that lake not as big to not take driver out as much as it does. I wanted the first hole to be harder but that is a bit too much on the penal side. You can clear it with no or helping winds but yeah any winds in your face and the hole is a bit too much on the difficult side then I meant for. By the time I realized that it was all built out and I decided to take the hit on it rather then completely rebuild the lake and that little waterfall on it. At that point I wanted to publish and move one hahaha But 17 is I think the hole that would (and should) keep me from a Tour Worthy designation. My view on the rocks. I totally understand your concern with their unpredicatability. My view is I never hide them, you know they are there and it's your responsiblity to avoid them. The course itself is pretty straightforward and attackable so my haxards being a bit more penal if you hit them of typical hazards felt like an appropriate compremise. Plus rocks can also be a help at times. I did ramp up the back of the fairways where rocks are in them so your ball should roll off them to not tuck you behind (between you and the hole) if you hit a shot into a rock. Hole 15 I kept going back and forth on making it a long Par 4 or a Par 5 and it's just very dependant on the wind. You obviosuly had a helping wind on this playthrough, it plays more like a par 5 with a head wind or a cross wind. I did make the green a bit more difficult from the beta so you need a good shot (like the great one you hit) to hold it and make eagle. I also feel having that reletively easy hole follow the difficult last three holes was a compremise I ultimately was fine with. Again thank you so much for the playthrough! I hope besides the hiccups and the rocks you enjoyed it! Not sure if I'll every make a bunkerless course again, haha but glad I did and it came out playable. Yeah, I was a bit perturbed on 11, but like I said in the video and you wrote above, it's apparent that it's there and it's easy to avoid. Poor course management by me, but hilarious that I ended up in it after saying there was no reason not to just bash driver up here :-) 17 is unfortunate, but it happens. Re: the rocks, it's a personal bias. I'm still bitter about a hidden rock at the Quarry 18 of Fanshawe Golf Club taking a chunk out of my lob wedge in 1999. The only rocks I had an actual issue with were the ones in front of the green on the par 3 with the shallow green and OB over the back. Hitting those rocks and bouncing OB would be a bit much. The rest were just me yelling at kids to get off my lawn. 17 is a swing and a bit of a miss, but more learning! and you miss 100% of the shots you don't take! Now that I'm done though I need a shot! Keep up the great work on the streams! And good luck with the NUFC up and downs! haha Gueye would be a good pick up but apparently hes being a brat
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Post by 15eicheltower9 on Jan 31, 2021 18:14:46 GMT -5
Really enjoyed this one. The improvements from your first to this one were incredible. Great atmosphere and even without bunkers the course was full of strategy.
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Post by trailducker on Jan 31, 2021 18:35:26 GMT -5
Really enjoyed this one. The improvements from your first to this one were incredible. Great atmosphere and even without bunkers the course was full of strategy. Thank you 15eichel! Glad my bothering you with questions is paying dividends 😂
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iinspector
Weekend Golfer
Remember, wherever you go, there you are!
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Post by iinspector on Jan 31, 2021 22:43:23 GMT -5
Good Job M8, Ill Use it at my Club!!
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Post by mde103 on Feb 1, 2021 10:51:59 GMT -5
I thought this course was big step up from your first as well. The progress you have made with the sculpting tools has really enhanced the playability and strategy. The creative environment/background seems to be a strong suit for you. I really enjoyed the course and look forward to playing your next! It looks like you have some experienced guys giving you constructive feedback, so I’ll leave that to them. You are clearly trending in the right direction.
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Post by trailducker on Feb 2, 2021 2:53:25 GMT -5
I thought this course was big step up from your first as well. The progress you have made with the sculpting tools has really enhanced the playability and strategy. The creative environment/background seems to be a strong suit for you. I really enjoyed the course and look forward to playing your next! It looks like you have some experienced guys giving you constructive feedback, so I’ll leave that to them. You are clearly trending in the right direction. Thank You so much mde! Really appriciate the reinforcement and I'm glad you enjoyed!
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mayday_golf83
TGCT Design Competition Directors
Posts: 2,279
TGCT Name: Jeremy Mayo
Tour: Elite
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Post by mayday_golf83 on Feb 3, 2021 16:55:02 GMT -5
Sent here by notaburneracct. Hoping the tee boxes are at least flat-ish Joke's aside. I was told this was done on Stadia? Bless you, my son!
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LucasEatWorld
Amateur Golfer
I'm not superstitious, but I am a little stitious.
Posts: 225
TGCT Name: LucasEatWorld
Tour: Platinum
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Post by LucasEatWorld on Feb 4, 2021 1:43:26 GMT -5
Good stuff. Played through this one first and was pretty impressed. Just had a few nitpicks here and there that I'd personally change, but overall it's very solid, especially for a second entry. Big time step up from Cape Trios. 👍🏻
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Post by trailducker on Feb 4, 2021 2:29:27 GMT -5
Good stuff. Played through this one first and was pretty impressed. Just had a few nitpicks here and there that I'd personally change, but overall it's very solid, especially for a second entry. Big time step up from Cape Trios. 👍🏻 Thanks so much for playing! Real great advice and things to keep in mind for my future courses!
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