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Post by tpetro on Dec 16, 2020 16:39:24 GMT -5
15 at Wolf Point. Enough said.
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Post by jeffvadersith on Dec 17, 2020 9:39:10 GMT -5
this is all awesome i would love to know about that picture lol. whats its composition n other stuff or not etc i have been working on a desert course but its a problem for making bunkers a bit. I am not sure how to do it best.
if there were a few choices i could probably brainstorm some good ideas.
i will show you some photos if i get chance
would love to see some of these courses being made some are stunning.
great work guys keep up the good work
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jayraygun
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Post by jayraygun on Dec 17, 2020 10:35:09 GMT -5
I'll throw in my two cents with my own home course, Cedar Creek Country Club in Kemp, TX. Although not the prettiest course (especially in December in Texas), and certainly not the most difficult, the 470 yd Par 4 #6 is the number 1 handicap hole on the course. Note: Don't believe what the scorecard tells you about it actually being the number 6 handicap. A lot of the members at this club play from the yellow Senior tees which shorten the hole to just 311 yards and it throws off the handicap rating. Before the handicaps were recalculated in 2017, this was always the #1 handicap hole. What makes this hole difficult is a few things: 1. The length. For average golfers like the members of this club, they drive the ball about 230-260 yards which puts them at the very bottom of the valley off of a blind tee shot. 2. The lie. The fairway in the landing area is tight at just 30 yards wide. It also slopes right to left. Depending on where you land, you could either have a 220 yd shot to an uphill pin from a downslope/left-to-right lie or a 190 yd shot to an uphill pin from an uphill/left-to-right slope lie. There's really no flat place to land. 3. The natural hazards. I know in the game, water in front of a tee shot does nothing to the gamer's psyche but in real life, your average golfer sees water and it sticks in their head no matter where its at. While it may not come into play for any decent shot, it is a mental factor. Also, the trees on the left and right of the fairway are always in play for any hooks or slices. There's also out of bounds much farther left that I have reached on occasion. If you end up in the trees on either side, you're more than likely punching out and praying for an up and down. 4. The weather. The wind on this course normally blows in south to north off of the lake. Hole 6 plays directly south and so more often than not, you are shooting into the wind which only adds to the length. 5. The green. The greens on this course all tend to the small side. This green is about 5,000 sq ft. It's also slightly raised in the front and then slopes from front to back making it hard for your long iron shots to stick the green and preventing any shot that comes up short from rolling on. You know, up until now I've never given much thought to this hole design in particular. I always knew it was hard but just chalked it up to length. Come to find out, there's a lot of smart elements at play. This course was built in the early 60's and though it is a private club, it's on the side of what you might call "podunk" so it's not like it has a Tom Fazio design or anything. I love it mostly because it's where I play the most golf with my dad but I'm glad you inspired me to take a closer look at some of the holes. This course has zero fairway bunkers as most of the front nine plays through fairways lined thickly with tall oak trees and the back nine has a lot of water and tight out-of-bounds areas surroundingthe holes. Only 8 of the holes have bunkers around the greens (and only 2 of those 8 have multiple bunkers: the Par 3 #5 and the Par 3 #17 have two bunkers each). 8.5.5 8.5.5
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jayraygun
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Post by jayraygun on Dec 17, 2020 10:40:09 GMT -5
this is all awesome i would love to know about that picture lol. whats its composition n other stuff or not etc i have been working on a desert course but its a problem for making bunkers a bit. I am not sure how to do it best. if there were a few choices i could probably brainstorm some good ideas. i will show you some photos if i get chance would love to see some of these courses being made some are stunning. great work guys keep up the good work Most of the desert courses I have played have regular bunkers throughout on the fairways and around the greens but they also use a lot of large waste bunker areas outside of the heavy rough and sometimes surrounding the greens where the course just kind of bleeds off into the sand. You can see a little bit of that here: 8.5.5
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