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Post by hippystein on Nov 20, 2020 4:47:38 GMT -5
First off. I know we all play using different setups and am curious to see how and what setups people are playing with and what the scores are related to the actual system you are using. No witch hunt just interested!
I recieved my ps5 yesterday and transfered all my stuff across and whilst i was waiting for cold war to finish downloading i fired up 2k21. Im now playing on a 43 inch 4k lg tv with my ps5. Previously i was playing on a 42 inch full hd lg. It just got me wondering!!!!!
The game was designed to play on a ps4 pro with 4k capability but not next gen if im correct.
Straight away off the bat the swing feels much more responsive due to the higher frame rate that the ps5 is producing and i found the random slows that blighted my game so much had. Largely disappeared. Because of this and without calibration i found i was hitting a lot of grey/red fasts. But i could also control my swing alot more. On my old ps4 with ds4 i struggled to swing below 101% on anything really unless i went for a 93% which seemed to be the lowest i could get consistently. Straight away on ps5 i have loads more control on swing i was actually hitting the intended range from 93% all the way to 101% without penalty of a massive slow when short swinging or the big red fast. Pre calibration i could hit a 97% slight grey fast and it wasnt penalising me nowhere near what the 101 grey would on the ps4. Also short game felt more controlled with the red slow almost completely eradicated. It took me a good 9 holes to find my groove but when i did the birdies and eagles started to flow. Putting seems alot less jerky and because of the increased frame rate it seems like the mishit window on putts is bigger. All these things although great will take some game time to get used to as i was that set in my ways on the ps4 and constantly fighting an uphill battle due to poor frame rate and system just not polling the swing fast enough it made me wonder. What systems ppl were using and where are they ranked in the tour/wgr. I think itd be interesting to see because i know we all have different setups and on your id it says whether u are ps xbox or steam but it doesnt state what system. After just a couple of rounds im guessing pga2k21 plays the same as the ps4 pro just with a far superior controller because the new dualsense is what can only be described as a "monster bit of kit". Im guessing alot of the ppl on the top tour are using a ps4 pro or the xbox equivalent and the steam players are already running at a decent framerate. Therefore the std ps4 and xbox are at a massive disadvantage to there bigger brothers and now there even bigger brothers. Just wanted to put it out there and just see what sort of response it gets and what feedback the community gives to what there 2k21 experience is actually like and also how there current setups is limiting there progression. Also just wanted to see how far the actual gameplay is setup dependant. Even tho its not supposed to be. and also how your enjoyment levels whilst playing a golf game shouldnt be restricted by what setup you currently use. Like ive said before this game has alot going for it in so many ways and there are more ppl playing it(just not tgct) but at the same time there are alot of the old skoolers that have lost there love for the game and could be lost from the title forever which is a massive shame!!!!
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Post by xvshitanvx on Nov 20, 2020 5:09:54 GMT -5
I use the OG PS4, a Hisense 50” 4k tv with mad input lag, and have two DS4 v1s plus a new DS4 v2 that I haven’t tried as I could see the stick wasn’t straight in the box, and the company I bought it from wouldn’t accept the return.
There is a massive difference in control between my two v1s. The one I preferred for 19 (produced more consistently straight lines) is pretty rubbish in 21 as the tempo and putting feels all over the place.
Feel like most of this game is down to the controller and not the system, because the OG PS4 is slow af, and the input lag I have should be a major downside.
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Post by hippystein on Nov 20, 2020 5:37:26 GMT -5
What i noticed is it polls a lot less on the og system so it only registers certain tempos hence the fast is easier to play but if you can get tempo down for perfects using the calibration it seems to be the same point that polls more often than not!
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Post by xvshitanvx on Nov 20, 2020 5:56:36 GMT -5
I haven’t really had that experience, personally. Get a lot of slightly different points even within perfect tempo.
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Post by smith on Nov 21, 2020 13:26:25 GMT -5
I play on an og PS4 with a 27" gaming monitor, 1ms. I use my controller wireless and my perfects register anywhere within the perfect white zone, no pattern. If I turn off bluetooth and plug in my controller - perfects register ONLY on the left or right edge of the white zone.
Edit: Maybe should've added in my original response as it seems to be the opposite of most - my misses tend to be gray slows both off the tee as well as iron shots.
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Post by fransslabak on Nov 22, 2020 5:16:43 GMT -5
I play on a standard PS4 with gaming monitor (27 inch). I have my controller wired; USB. I play for perfects and have only one spot in the white area to hit it. On good days I hit 80% perfect. On bad days, below 50%. Get 1 or 2 slows per round on a good day. Hit grey fasts about 10 times a round on a good day. On bad days a lot more. That’s it.
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Post by rob4590 on Nov 22, 2020 6:31:12 GMT -5
Internet connection is a massive issue: I've just moved house, and due to Sky's inability to get me a properly working phone line since Tuesday (and therefore (un)stable broadband), the tempo is total roulette compared with my old place - up till the move, I could do P / grey F pretty much to order (with a safe red F off the tee as an in play option) Suddenly I've starting getting 2/3 VFs each round, 5/6 red slows as well - and all with my normal swing. Pretty much impossible to compete when you have no clue whether you are going to be 40 yards left, or 30 yards short right on any given swing. Fingers crossed it settles down after their claimed '10 day line /broadband test / calibration'
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Post by booze2407 on Nov 23, 2020 0:14:59 GMT -5
I play on the standard PS4 on an old Sony tv. Tempo for me definitely varies, I still feel like it’s just related to the server. It can feel different depending on time of day. Sometimes it will be more sensitive to fasts, I can go re-calibrate slamming every shot and it will make absolutely zero difference. Then I can play later that day, and suddenly I have to smash it to get a fast drive. It has to be server. Also, it is not possible for me to get a perfect in the center of the bar playing normally. There are only two points it can hit...the left edge and right edge. Nothing in between. With some experimenting, I’ve found out the center can only be hit when the aim marker is brought in less than max. But i find this makes me more vulnerable to fasts.
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Post by smith on Nov 23, 2020 2:16:30 GMT -5
I play on the standard PS4 on an old Sony tv. Tempo for me definitely varies, I still feel like it’s just related to the server. It can feel different depending on time of day. Sometimes it will be more sensitive to fasts, I can go re-calibrate slamming every shot and it will make absolutely zero difference. Then I can play later that day, and suddenly I have to smash it to get a fast drive. It has to be server. Also, it is not possible for me to get a perfect in the center of the bar playing normally. There are only two points it can hit...the left edge and right edge. Nothing in between. With some experimenting, I’ve found out the center can only be hit when the aim marker is brought in less than max. But i find this makes me more vulnerable to fasts. I'm assuming you play with a wired controller? I've found that playing wired only allows for left/right edge for perfects and wireLESS allows multiple points within the white perfect zone. I myself haven't noticed a difference in success rates for getting perfects either way but some people swear by playing a certain way. As for the servers - at this point I think I agree with you that there is a little bit of uncontrollable variance in that aspect. On a similar note, I've found that tempo's on the driving rage (so if you do a calibration) as well as Local matches tend to have a different 'perfect tempo' than online/society rounds. In my experience, a perfect tempo on the driving range/local match translates to a gray fast in society play. Food for thought
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Post by booze2407 on Nov 23, 2020 9:38:10 GMT -5
I play on the standard PS4 on an old Sony tv. Tempo for me definitely varies, I still feel like it’s just related to the server. It can feel different depending on time of day. Sometimes it will be more sensitive to fasts, I can go re-calibrate slamming every shot and it will make absolutely zero difference. Then I can play later that day, and suddenly I have to smash it to get a fast drive. It has to be server. Also, it is not possible for me to get a perfect in the center of the bar playing normally. There are only two points it can hit...the left edge and right edge. Nothing in between. With some experimenting, I’ve found out the center can only be hit when the aim marker is brought in less than max. But i find this makes me more vulnerable to fasts. I'm assuming you play with a wired controller? I've found that playing wired only allows for left/right edge for perfects and wireLESS allows multiple points within the white perfect zone. I myself haven't noticed a difference in success rates for getting perfects either way but some people swear by playing a certain way. As for the servers - at this point I think I agree with you that there is a little bit of uncontrollable variance in that aspect. On a similar note, I've found that tempo's on the driving rage (so if you do a calibration) as well as Local matches tend to have a different 'perfect tempo' than online/society rounds. In my experience, a perfect tempo on the driving range/local match translates to a gray fast in society play. Food for thought Correct, I almost always play wired...interesting. I have played a bit wireless, but I never paid attention really to where it was hitting. Definitely curious now. The problem with wireless though is I get an issue with partial backswings that can reset itself multiple times. Meaning I’ll pull down to shoot, the golfer will start bringing the club back and then stop and reset. It is extremely annoying and throws me off. I still get it once in a while wired, but nowhere near as much. So even if hitting perfect were easier wireless, I think I’d still have to play wired. On another note, I’m not sure it’s even possible to hit perfect on legend without pulling the marker in (making center point a possibility). Reason being with the smaller tempo window, the normal left/right edge perfects now become gray fasts/slows. So without the marker being moved in, there is no perfect point to hit..which is pretty dumb if true. I agree on driving range and local matches being different than societies. I felt this way last game also. This one is probably in my head, but I swear the practice swing also feels a little different too lol. So often I’ll take a few practice swings and get slows repeatedly, then shoot with it feeling exactly the same....and it’s a left edge perfect. UPDATE- confirmed. Hit the range playing wireless, and there are more points on perfect that can be hit. Also got perfect on legend without moving the marker. Went back to wired on legend, and hitting perfect is not possible without marker moved. Closest I can get is just barely fast/slow.
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Post by GW_Hope on Nov 26, 2020 18:12:01 GMT -5
Yes it’s servers or could be internet traffic in general in your area. I always warm up offline now. At least, it gets me a consistent feel otherwise it can seem like a dog chasing it’s tail. Too bad the swing couldn’t always be local and the end results transmitted. It’s not like we are shooting moving targets.
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Post by tenbobnote on Nov 26, 2020 18:23:48 GMT -5
If you want your perfects to be dead centre of the zone with a wired controller, you can calibrate it that way by doing 5 swings as fast as possible and 5 swings as slow as possible. If you want two perfect points, one on each edge of the zone, just do 10 swings as fast as possible. This way would make it impossible to hit perfect on Legend with most clubs, but works in Master with forgiving clubs. Remember when golf used to be simple?
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Post by booze2407 on Nov 26, 2020 20:06:48 GMT -5
Yes it’s servers or could be internet traffic in general in your area. I always warm up offline now. At least, it gets me a consistent feel otherwise it can seem like a dog chasing it’s tail. Too bad the swing couldn’t always be local and the end results transmitted. It’s not like we are shooting moving targets. Yeah im now 100% convinced it’s the servers (or traffic like you said). I played this morning, and it felt really good. Played a little while ago, and almost every swing that would’ve been perfect this morning was giving me a fast. I’ve experienced this quite a bit. Trying to calibrate to fix it does absolutely nothing. The morning (EST for me) requires a bit more force, which I prefer, and later in the day I have to try to take something off it. Usually takes at least a round to try and adjust.
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Post by booze2407 on Nov 26, 2020 20:31:56 GMT -5
If you want your perfects to be dead centre of the zone with a wired controller, you can calibrate it that way by doing 5 swings as fast as possible and 5 swings as slow as possible. If you want two perfect points, one on each edge of the zone, just do 10 swings as fast as possible. This way would make it impossible to hit perfect on Legend with most clubs, but works in Master with forgiving clubs. Remember when golf used to be simple? Weird! I’m trying this out now. Do you gain anything by getting that center point? Meaning, is there a difference between hitting perfect on the very edge vs hitting perfect in the center? If not, I guess it really doesn’t matter except for legend like you said. I have to either play Bluetooth or pull the marker in to get perfect. edit- hmmm...didn’t work for me. Still just the edges. Do they need to be so fast and so slow that you get the funny animation and sound on all of the them? Interesting enough though, I took about 30 swings after my calibration, and the tempo seemed good! I was getting perfect after perfect. Yet when I swing all 10 really fast, I still get a bunch of fasts after. Probably more evidence that it’s just the server dictating your tempo, and not calibration.
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Post by kujene on Nov 27, 2020 1:40:55 GMT -5
And of course I would install games on the new PS5 but I don't have any money yet
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