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Post by t2theb2 on Apr 1, 2015 6:33:23 GMT -5
So I went out to play my rounds tonight and was amazed that the pins/tees i practiced on in the official practice events were NOTHING like the actual pins/tees in the tour event. Thursday pins/tees were either Friday's positions or a mishmash of several rounds. Same thing with the Friday one. I had come out to play one round as I has been used to the practice Thursday and even managed to score a decent score. By the second hole I was completely lost with pins that were foreign to me. I exited and tried to find the pins and thought a few for the Friday practice but even that didn't line up completely. Lets forget for a moment that the course is ridiculous at this moment. I played Doyley's ball and good on you for being able to shoot -17 for two rounds, but I'd like to talk a little about fairness. I practiced for 2 1/2 weeks on the original Shakespeare course, only to be told a week before that things were firming up. I didn't like it but fine. I put in a lot of practice for the Thursday round as my thought was take it one day at a time. Practice that one day, get where you want to hit and play it, only to find out the first round was NOT the same pin/tees I had been practicing for the last week! How is this fair? You change the firmness with short notice then change the pins with no notice and you expect us to come out and have fun? I'm sorry but this tourney was not well thought out and I hope that the admin won't have this happen again in the future. In the end I said "**** it" and just played. -3 for the first round even par for the second round, which did have some tees/pins like the Thursday round practice i played. For instance hole #1 on Thursday was a front pin position you had to land in the fairway to roll up to. In round one of the tourney it was in the middle of the green and in round 2 it was back left. WTF? Can someone explain what happened? At this point I'm actually considering asking that this tournament doesn't count because what was given to us to practice was NOT what the tour gave us. I believe on the pros, they know basically the pins/tees for all four rounds and they practice that. I honestly love what you guys do, I understand that you want to make it tougher, but you can't change the difficulty, give us practice rounds to practice the new difficulty and have it be nothing like the actual rounds we play. Sorry for the tone of the post, but the difficulty of the course is bad enough without having to also deal with pins that are completely foreign to you. Oh and before anyone says, "Oh you could have just quit and practiced the other rounds." I would say this, first off I shouldn't need to as I already put a week in. Second, I shouldn't have to! The practice round should reflect exactly what the actual round will be Good luck all. Oh and nice shooting Doyley. If you were to put as much effort into improving your golf as you do in moaning constantly you would not be worrying about scraping into the masters. Get on with it
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Post by joegolferg on Apr 1, 2015 9:56:58 GMT -5
I don't mind the changes but I still don't believe a course with such shoddy frame rates on console should be played on tour.
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Post by AFCTUJacko on Apr 1, 2015 10:13:31 GMT -5
I don't mind the changes but I still don't believe a course with such shoddy frame rates on console should be played on tour. Agreed, not going to pretend it cost me a shot at the top 10 or anything silly like that but it's pretty hard to compete with one hand tied behind your back
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2015 10:23:53 GMT -5
Somebody let me know when we do something right. That would be nice to hear for a change of pace.
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Post by fondername0 on Apr 1, 2015 10:47:17 GMT -5
I find this entire thread comical.
Almost as comical as the Ball Squirt crap.
Best Line: "At this point I'm actually considering asking that this tournament doesn't count"
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Post by CGib2 on Apr 1, 2015 10:48:15 GMT -5
Somebody let me know when we do something right. That would be nice to hear for a change of pace. No complaints here. With the efforts that all of you put into TGC tours, we should applaud your efforts, and those that criticize are in the vast minority.
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Post by fondername0 on Apr 1, 2015 11:09:48 GMT -5
This entire season I have not played 1 practice round. No wonder I suck so bad.
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Post by joegolferg on Apr 1, 2015 13:10:40 GMT -5
Criticism is important if we want to keep things good. Course selection has been below average lately and I think it needs pointing out, the only problem here is poor frames on consoles because of the poor countryside theme mainly.
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Post by Brighttail on Apr 1, 2015 13:16:03 GMT -5
I find this entire thread comical. Almost as comical as the Ball Squirt crap. Best Line: "At this point I'm actually considering asking that this tournament doesn't count" In my defense, i said that when I hadn't been on line in 4 days and didn't read that there was an issue. I thought that someone had made a major error and not notified anyone. If that was the case then the proper resolution was to not count it. As it was there was communication, I apologized for missing it, but it was said. In the end, and as a person who has ran multiple types of tournaments through my life, if the TD or the organization that makes the events, if we or myself makes a major error that is unfair to the field, we would often offer refunds or rerun the tournament after correcting our mistakes.
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Post by Brighttail on Apr 1, 2015 13:16:52 GMT -5
Criticism is important if we want to keep things good. Course selection has been below average lately and I think it needs pointing out, the only problem here is poor frames on consoles because of the poor countryside theme mainly. Heck even on my mega computer I was getting under 30 Frames per second on some holes. Very choppy at times.
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Post by t2theb2 on Apr 1, 2015 13:18:02 GMT -5
Did you moan about your own comps???
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Post by Brighttail on Apr 1, 2015 13:26:52 GMT -5
Did you moan about your own comps??? When I didn't do them right, yes. Sorry I'm a bit of a perfectionist when it comes to organizational events. I'm the first to admit you cannot please everyone, but you try to be fair to everyone. In this particular tournament I found that wasn't really the case. That being said, most everything else the folks at TGC does is absolutely fantastic, but without criticism things cannot get better. As a side note, people often voiced their opinions in my events, sometimes rather harshly. Sometimes it was fair criticism other times it was not. When it was not, and they apologized, I accepted and moved on. We are all human, we all make mistakes. If we dwell on the past, we never can truly move forward. So in the words of a certain ice queen, "Let it go."
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Post by mcbogga on Apr 1, 2015 18:28:26 GMT -5
Everyone is playing the same course for the tournament - how is that not fair?
Why should there be a right to practice on the exact set up beforehand? To me the ability to practice the exact set up is an unfortunate consequence of how tis game was built and not in the spirit of real golf.
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Post by shootermcgavin on Apr 1, 2015 19:31:13 GMT -5
I have said in previous posts that I enjoyed the difficulty of this tournament, and that I think most weeks for the two main tours should be of a similar level. Everyone has their own opinions on how a tournament should be set up, but I just find playing 'easier courses' where you can birdie every hole boring and does not do the tours justice. Looking at the leaderboard and seeing a 62 instead of a 52 at the top just feels right to me.
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Post by daddyjules on Apr 1, 2015 19:49:33 GMT -5
Funny thing is that this event doesnt even exist IRL i believe it was created just to fill the gap and feed the hunger of the virtual pros but yet people still slate course choices and changes made!
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