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Post by SloanerTW on Sept 9, 2020 23:08:02 GMT -5
Made a quick video showing some pretty neat stuff on how perfect tempo works wired vs wireless. Let me know if you encounter the same kind of thing. I've done this with multiple controllers and they all have the same results.
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Post by SloanerTW on Sept 9, 2020 23:33:25 GMT -5
So its definitely a calibrating thing. When I calibrated for the video I was pushing forward pretty hard but not as hard as I could. I just re-calibrated and did a smother more neutral swing and it made my 2 points of perfect move closer to the middle so now I can fully loft my clubs and still catch the edge of the window. I still cant hit a perfect driver wired but wireless it gives me the exact middle as well as the 2 other points.
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Post by SloanerTW on Sept 9, 2020 23:49:33 GMT -5
Just did another calibration and now I only have 1 point of perfect wired but its in the middle so every shot has a chance to be perfect but I only have 1 range of speed to get perfect instead of 2. Wireless I have 3 points. Swing is messed up.
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Post by Cecil Harvey on Sept 10, 2020 0:02:27 GMT -5
About the 4th to 6th day after the game launched I went from wireless Bluetooth to wired (changed the setting to wired via the PS4 menus, etc). It messed me up pretty hard and I found I have much more consistency with wireless play after I went back. I generally have a pretty quick/fast downswing, so calibrating was needed to test either approach.
Either approach I have slower downswings on the short clubs and quicker ones on the Driver/woods/long irons. This is on my end as I still have a hard time remembering to not swing the short clubs "lighter/softer".
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Post by SloanerTW on Sept 10, 2020 0:49:18 GMT -5
It blows my mind that they have data that can narrow tempo to 7 decimal places and yet they round the tempo meter to 92 and 88 degrees (90 is dead center). Why cant it be 90.1, or 89.9 or even 1/3 of a degree to make it possible to perfect all shots. Now you have to calibrate and test the calibration to make sure you can still hit perfect on lofted shots. Furthermore someone who calibrates to at least 2 points of perfect has an advantage over someone that only has 1.
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Post by Oscar C on Sept 10, 2020 1:29:47 GMT -5
I have no idea what you are talking about but are you telling me to change to wireless for a better chance of perfect?
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Post by lessangster on Sept 10, 2020 3:08:28 GMT -5
I have no idea what you are talking about but are you telling me to change to wireless for a better chance of perfect? I’m no wiser what he’s talking about either.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2020 8:02:34 GMT -5
I have no idea what you are talking about but are you telling me to change to wireless for a better chance of perfect? Yes, it looks as though using wired will only give you perfect at the outside edge of the perfect tempo arc, wireless will give you one in the middle too. Steve, did you try changing your driver or wedge to the one that has the most forgiveness? Maybe thats how HB have made the game, more forgiveness will allow for more data points in the perfect zone? cseanny is this something you've noticed through all your testing as you only play wired don't you?
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Post by SloanerTW on Sept 10, 2020 8:07:50 GMT -5
I have no idea what you are talking about but are you telling me to change to wireless for a better chance of perfect? In the video the spots HB gave me for perfect input were on the edges of the timing window when I’m wired. So if I lofted or hit something with less forgiveness I would never hit a perfect because the window is now inside HBs feedback. Now if I go wireless the game picks up 4 different spots for perfect. 2 on the edges and 2 just left and right of center. So while wireless I still have a chance to hit perfect on lofted and less forgiving clubs.
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Post by SloanerTW on Sept 10, 2020 8:11:28 GMT -5
I have no idea what you are talking about but are you telling me to change to wireless for a better chance of perfect? Yes, it looks as though using wired will only give you perfect at the outside edge of the perfect tempo arc, wireless will give you one in the middle too. Steve, did you try changing your driver or wedge to the one that has the most forgiveness? Maybe thats how HB have made the game, more forgiveness will allow for more data points in the perfect zone? cseanny is this something you've noticed through all your testing as you only play wired don't you? It’s pretty much a calibration lottery I can calibrate and have a dead center perfect swing wired but everywhere else is either fast or slow. So it is possible to have a calibration where I can hit that driver perfect. My wedges and irons are pretty much max forgiveness
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Post by Mark (Kram) on Sept 11, 2020 21:15:04 GMT -5
I understand the need for calibration etc, however I don't understand where the feedback comes from when you hit your 10 shots.
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Post by cseanny on Sept 11, 2020 22:30:18 GMT -5
I have no idea what you are talking about but are you telling me to change to wireless for a better chance of perfect? In the video the spots HB gave me for perfect input were on the edges of the timing window when I’m wired. So if I lofted or hit something with less forgiveness I would never hit a perfect because the window is now inside HBs feedback. Now if I go wireless the game picks up 4 different spots for perfect. 2 on the edges and 2 just left and right of center. So while wireless I still have a chance to hit perfect on lofted and less forgiving clubs. I only play wireless, which has 3x less input lag with DS4 (V2s). I think my video's show that I'm very consistent with playing "red fasts", which of course, goes back to "wireless". Speaking for myself, I would never, Never use wired. While I do have a video of me going for perfects, I don't play for them because in my eyes, they are sub optimal and should be avoided (yes, even if you can hit them 80-90%).
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Post by grinder12000 on Sept 21, 2020 15:37:04 GMT -5
I'll played wired ANY day. Since I wired up I no longer miss those 3 foot straight as an arrow putts to the right for no reason. Putting is MUCH MUCH smoother with an actual "feel" to the stroke. My putting improved drastically putting when I wired up.
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Post by CTLegacy on Sept 23, 2020 13:15:51 GMT -5
In the video the spots HB gave me for perfect input were on the edges of the timing window when I’m wired. So if I lofted or hit something with less forgiveness I would never hit a perfect because the window is now inside HBs feedback. Now if I go wireless the game picks up 4 different spots for perfect. 2 on the edges and 2 just left and right of center. So while wireless I still have a chance to hit perfect on lofted and less forgiving clubs. I only play wireless, which has 3x less input lag with DS4 (V2s). I think my video's show that I'm very consistent with playing "red fasts", which of course, goes back to "wireless". Speaking for myself, I would never, Never use wired. While I do have a video of me going for perfects, I don't play for them because in my eyes, they are sub optimal and should be avoided (yes, even if you can hit them 80-90%).
I went on a 2 day Youtube tangent on this very topic (Wired vs Wireless). I found a crazy smart dude named Rocket Science on youtube who goes into incredibly deep details on how each controllers input lag as it pertains to Rocket League, but has implications for this game as well. It was some amazing stuff. Yes, Wireless has less input lag then wired PS4 controllers. This is because the controller charges itself when wired and thus enters some power saving mode to charge faster which increases the lag time to the console. It's nuts the high level details his videos go into. Anyways, I'm using xbox 1 controller on PC and had no issues really. It's tough to get perfects any way you look at it.
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Post by grinder12000 on Sept 23, 2020 15:44:48 GMT -5
NOPE - I don't believe it - huge difference on a PS4 between wired and wireless. jerky wireless and silky smooth wired. No feel at all wireless. I tried again to make sure there was a difference. there is.
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