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Post by rcknfrewld on Aug 26, 2020 9:40:58 GMT -5
Thanks for the responses guys, it confirmed much of what I had expected.
So, to me, playing for a fast was the obvious option on day 1 just so I could hit a damn fairway. As I began to get more and more perfect tempo's, it started to feel a bit...hokey?...to purposefully play for something intended as a miss in the game. I don't say this to call out guys playing like that, because I completely understand the strategy in doing so, and don't even really disagree with the argument that fast tempo was built as a strategic element in the game (within reason, not like the super slow chips from 19). Playing a fast on purpose with a wild push just feels...I don't know the best way to explain it without seeming like I'm calling people out, because I am 100% not trying to do that, it just kind of feels wrong. That said, since it's something that everyone seems to have embraced without a second thought, I guess my gut feeling of "intent of the game" type of stuff is not in line with the consensus opinion, so I'll just go back to trying to improve in my play with that fast method. Please, please...please don't misread my intent in this paragraph, wasn't sure whether to post but thought we can all be reasonable enough to just talk about things without automatically assuming someone is attacking someone else or calling them a cheat/exploiter/etc.
The question about the haptics on putting comes straight from a match KenTremendous and I played yesterday. After telling him how to turn the rumble on, it maybe took him 2 putts to seemingly perfect an incredibly slow backswing, then just simply pushing up once the slight rumble feel come through the controller. It honestly was silly how easy it made his distance control, save one or two misfires. After watching that, I personally believe that haptic feedback should be turned off for tour play, but there's also zero way to enforce that since it's a controller setting, so that's just a personal opinion.
Thanks again for the comments, really cool to see guys willing to share strategy in the new game, appreciate the openness - and again, please don't take my commentary as a condemnation, just explaining the rationale for my questions more than anything. Cheers fellas, keep up the great play.
And off and away we go...I’m surprised it took this long.
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Post by AFCTUJacko on Aug 26, 2020 9:52:11 GMT -5
The question about the haptics on putting comes straight from a match KenTremendous and I played yesterday. After telling him how to turn the rumble on, it maybe took him 2 putts to seemingly perfect an incredibly slow backswing, then just simply pushing up once the slight rumble feel come through the controller. It honestly was silly how easy it made his distance control, save one or two misfires. After watching that, I personally believe that haptic feedback should be turned off for tour play, but there's also zero way to enforce that since it's a controller setting, so that's just a personal opinion.
I pointed this out in another thread. I certainly feel the rumble does make speed control on lag putting way way easier. Rather than judging how far to take the putter back it basically tells you when to hit it
You do still need to know where to put the marker, how to read the green and execute the swing but it's taken one element away from putting for sure.
atm my putting stroke is too fast so I'm not getting it right all the time but if I could slow it down a touch I would seriously struggle to under or overhit a putt wit it turned on
All said with the caveat that many of the people tearing it up on PS4 aren't using it
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TGCT Name: Callum Hutchinson
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Post by LFCallum on Aug 26, 2020 10:17:20 GMT -5
Driving has become less of an issue for me now that I'm playing for the fast downswing most of the time. My issue is that I'm missing lots of greens and having to get up and down for par. Luckily I'm getting pretty good at that. If I can sort out my tempo on approach shots then I should be golden, but I'm unsure if I'll be good enough for Platinum. What irons/wedges is everyone using? -5 then -2 for what its worth -5 then +1 for -11 total. Happy that my scores were realistic.
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Post by Kenny on Aug 26, 2020 11:01:07 GMT -5
Thanks for the responses guys, it confirmed much of what I had expected.
So, to me, playing for a fast was the obvious option on day 1 just so I could hit a damn fairway. As I began to get more and more perfect tempo's, it started to feel a bit...hokey?...to purposefully play for something intended as a miss in the game. I don't say this to call out guys playing like that, because I completely understand the strategy in doing so, and don't even really disagree with the argument that fast tempo was built as a strategic element in the game (within reason, not like the super slow chips from 19). Playing a fast on purpose with a wild push just feels...I don't know the best way to explain it without seeming like I'm calling people out, because I am 100% not trying to do that, it just kind of feels wrong. That said, since it's something that everyone seems to have embraced without a second thought, I guess my gut feeling of "intent of the game" type of stuff is not in line with the consensus opinion, so I'll just go back to trying to improve in my play with that fast method. Please, please...please don't misread my intent in this paragraph, wasn't sure whether to post but thought we can all be reasonable enough to just talk about things without automatically assuming someone is attacking someone else or calling them a cheat/exploiter/etc.
The question about the haptics on putting comes straight from a match KenTremendous and I played yesterday. After telling him how to turn the rumble on, it maybe took him 2 putts to seemingly perfect an incredibly slow backswing, then just simply pushing up once the slight rumble feel come through the controller. It honestly was silly how easy it made his distance control, save one or two misfires. After watching that, I personally believe that haptic feedback should be turned off for tour play, but there's also zero way to enforce that since it's a controller setting, so that's just a personal opinion.
Thanks again for the comments, really cool to see guys willing to share strategy in the new game, appreciate the openness - and again, please don't take my commentary as a condemnation, just explaining the rationale for my questions more than anything. Cheers fellas, keep up the great play.
Even if playing for a fast swing, it’s not always the same result, likewise your swing plane may be way different so there are caveats. As for the rumble (vibration on) I initially had it turned on because my distance control for putting was terrible, I learned that in all likelihood it will be off for the tours so turned it off and worked on my putting distances. I’ll sometimes still three putt because I’ve blasted it passed the hole or left it a mile short, but the game is way, way better without it. I initially hated the putting in this game but now I think it’s really good, tough for sure, but really good.
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Post by B.Smooth13 on Aug 26, 2020 11:13:19 GMT -5
Thanks for the responses guys, it confirmed much of what I had expected.
So, to me, playing for a fast was the obvious option on day 1 just so I could hit a damn fairway. As I began to get more and more perfect tempo's, it started to feel a bit...hokey?...to purposefully play for something intended as a miss in the game. I don't say this to call out guys playing like that, because I completely understand the strategy in doing so, and don't even really disagree with the argument that fast tempo was built as a strategic element in the game (within reason, not like the super slow chips from 19). Playing a fast on purpose with a wild push just feels...I don't know the best way to explain it without seeming like I'm calling people out, because I am 100% not trying to do that, it just kind of feels wrong. That said, since it's something that everyone seems to have embraced without a second thought, I guess my gut feeling of "intent of the game" type of stuff is not in line with the consensus opinion, so I'll just go back to trying to improve in my play with that fast method. Please, please...please don't misread my intent in this paragraph, wasn't sure whether to post but thought we can all be reasonable enough to just talk about things without automatically assuming someone is attacking someone else or calling them a cheat/exploiter/etc.
The question about the haptics on putting comes straight from a match KenTremendous and I played yesterday. After telling him how to turn the rumble on, it maybe took him 2 putts to seemingly perfect an incredibly slow backswing, then just simply pushing up once the slight rumble feel come through the controller. It honestly was silly how easy it made his distance control, save one or two misfires. After watching that, I personally believe that haptic feedback should be turned off for tour play, but there's also zero way to enforce that since it's a controller setting, so that's just a personal opinion.
Thanks again for the comments, really cool to see guys willing to share strategy in the new game, appreciate the openness - and again, please don't take my commentary as a condemnation, just explaining the rationale for my questions more than anything. Cheers fellas, keep up the great play.
And off and away we go...I’m surprised it took this long. Please block me and refrain from replying to my posts. Thank you.
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Post by fadgewacker on Aug 26, 2020 11:27:21 GMT -5
I'm -8 through two, but i'm still using maximum forgiveness clubs (inc Driver) so was basically playing a different golf course to my ghost playing partners as i was constantly 30 yards behind them and hitting longer clubs in. Course is wide open so i'll probably put my super duper gold driver in the bag for the final two rounds tomorrow and see how i go.
Also missed a ton of makeable putts. I'd played Purgatory on 174 speeds just before so overread a lot of them at 144 in R1. I'm getting better but still yank the odd one miles left. Speed is generally ok though.
Yesterday i was struggling to break par and in 4 rounds played today i shot 64,68,67,67 so getting there for sure. Game is a lot of fun as long as you aren't hitting big misses the whole time and can plot your way around. Far more satusfying hitting a good shot.
If i could have two wishes they would be slightly more forgiving short irons and wedges, and less spin around the greens on downslopes and from crappy lies. They've made the long game harder but made it easier to get up and down
Biggest tip i can give anyone struggling is to aim for 97-99% power and avoid the overswing. I wonder if lots of people are swinging it like TGC19, getting regular 101% and thinking "that's ok" but it really messes with your tempo. I've phased it out this evening and hit way more perfects and most of my misses were playable.
I'm working on this now. Long pause at the top...try to hit it straighter and give myself more room for error. FWIW - Long pause at the top I think will cause havoc - you need to start your downswing before the end of your golfer's animation, otherwise, you overswing and your tempo window disappears. Makes the swing seem lightning fast, but that is what has brought new any sort of success trying to get decent tempo.
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Post by rcknfrewld on Aug 26, 2020 12:06:59 GMT -5
And off and away we go...I’m surprised it took this long. Please block me and refrain from replying to my posts. Thank you. You passive aggressively called out Classact for winning after getting hit by API now you’re passive aggressively calling out people for using fasts while you constantly say you’re not calling people out. You’re being intellectually dishonest. It’s like saying “With all due respect, you’re an ahole. But no offense.” And I’m in the wrong? Please. Be mad at yourself not me for overtly calling you out. Deal with it.
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Post by ohheycat on Aug 26, 2020 12:09:37 GMT -5
Its great to be back heh. Regarding haptic that is absolutely against the spirit of the game.. I would expect all of you purist folks to vigorously oppose its use. Being unenforceable, I guess there's not really a discussion to be had. It is undeniably an advantage against a very small subset of people playing with a mouse though.
They did a great job of killing the flick.
The 101 percent thing is like a bad joke. I mean it isnt a coincidence that we all came out swinging exactly 101 and can do it everytime with no issue.. if that was the 100 we would have a whole new game, seems just a tad rediculous to me really, maybe gimmicky is the word.
As far as my own personal play goes I am getting closer to double digits every round but I am still struggling massively too. Idk if platinum is in my future if too many more of you figure 'it' out. 40 something is just inconceivable at this point.
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Post by ksmith851 on Aug 26, 2020 12:46:45 GMT -5
Just took the Xbox lead with a -19. I was a CC-A/KF player in 2019.
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Post by alexandre on Aug 26, 2020 13:13:21 GMT -5
101 / 104 / 105 % My shots are really like this. But I configured the swing this way, I imagined that the game should run ... But it doesn't happen. I have no consistency. I am incredulous. Even more seeing -43 on the scoreboard ... I have the clubs of maximum forgiveness and nothing helps. Without consistency, the game becomes a lottery ... Better to play in career mode. I'm -8 through two, but i'm still using maximum forgiveness clubs (inc Driver) so was basically playing a different golf course to my ghost playing partners as i was constantly 30 yards behind them and hitting longer clubs in. Course is wide open so i'll probably put my super duper gold driver in the bag for the final two rounds tomorrow and see how i go.
Also missed a ton of makeable putts. I'd played Purgatory on 174 speeds just before so overread a lot of them at 144 in R1. I'm getting better but still yank the odd one miles left. Speed is generally ok though.
Yesterday i was struggling to break par and in 4 rounds played today i shot 64,68,67,67 so getting there for sure. Game is a lot of fun as long as you aren't hitting big misses the whole time and can plot your way around. Far more satusfying hitting a good shot.
If i could have two wishes they would be slightly more forgiving short irons and wedges, and less spin around the greens on downslopes and from crappy lies. They've made the long game harder but made it easier to get up and down
Biggest tip i can give anyone struggling is to aim for 97-99% power and avoid the overswing. I wonder if lots of people are swinging it like TGC19, getting regular 101% and thinking "that's ok" but it really messes with your tempo. I've phased it out this evening and hit way more perfects and most of my misses were playable.
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Post by Vuick on Aug 26, 2020 13:43:16 GMT -5
Curious on 2 starting questions for those adapting well, if they care to share: 1) are you playing for fast downswings? If so, only on drives, or everywhere? 2) are you using the haptic rumble? If so, everywhere? If only putts, are you inching the putter backward and then just going through once vibrate starts? Trying to wrap my head around some of the scoring, and this was the first couple of things I thought might be in play - tho again, I’ve got no clue what it’s like on ps4. As a PC player myself, I do play for a fast swing just about everywhere and it makes it really hard to score, but it's way better than to try and play for perfect (obviously) because perfect swings only come about 15% of the time for me. (Maybe less). As for the rumble, I've played with both, but I use it personally. Mostly because of the full swing over putting because I don't want to over swing my full shots because it kills tempo. I don't find it helps putting that much anyway because you can not use a really slow back swing on PC. It just stops the animation every time for me If I go slow. I'm just a pop stroke player anyway, it just feels better
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Post by stoneysooner on Aug 26, 2020 13:51:00 GMT -5
Just took the Xbox lead with a -19. I was a CC-A/KF player in 2019. Pretty encouraging post right here as this Top 20 WGR player has yet to break -11 in a four round event on PS4.
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Post by hammo24983 on Aug 26, 2020 13:54:47 GMT -5
Just took the Xbox lead with a -19. I was a CC-A/KF player in 2019. Pretty encouraging post right here as this Top 20 WGR player has yet to break -11 in a four round event on PS4. Those xbox users claiming that it’s still way easier on ps4 won’t know what to say about this one 😂
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Post by ksmith851 on Aug 26, 2020 14:37:19 GMT -5
Pretty encouraging post right here as this Top 20 WGR player has yet to break -11 in a four round event on PS4. Those xbox users claiming that it’s still way easier on ps4 won’t know what to say about this one 😂 I have no comment and no idea on if ps4 is easier, just posted to brag mostly For whatever it’s worth I aim for perfects in probably 90-95% of situations. For some reason it was clicking today and I was hitting lots of perfects (maybe half my shots). Had a -8 and -7 today on different courses. My personal best was -4 before today.
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Post by gringogazer on Aug 26, 2020 14:53:59 GMT -5
Curious on 2 starting questions for those adapting well, if they care to share: 1) are you playing for fast downswings? If so, only on drives, or everywhere? 2) are you using the haptic rumble? If so, everywhere? If only putts, are you inching the putter backward and then just going through once vibrate starts? Trying to wrap my head around some of the scoring, and this was the first couple of things I thought might be in play - tho again, I’ve got no clue what it’s like on ps4.
I play everything fast. Driver and 3w pretty fast (not close to perfect tempo) and take the risk of an occasional VF but never risking a slow, also everything with those clubs is gripped and ripped at 101% if not higher combined with a push to the right in my swing line because I find that more controllable.
I play approaches much closer to perfect tempo but still on the fast side because I can be more consistent with that. For approaches I adjust to whatever my feel is that day
Was wondering about the API with this, it's a nice shot to play but if the same API restraints are present I didn't want to get in the habit of it, then learn something new. I say let it play, but if the API is there I hope it's for all Tours. Seeing people come from Euro to PGA then API'ed or having to adjust as they progressed was an issue...
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