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Post by Nemecyst on Aug 25, 2020 16:59:43 GMT -5
Haha would love to see people shoot these numbers on xbox. Was hoping this game would even us out but i was wrong, no point in playing the qschool as it stands Yea I just finished my 4 rounds at -7 total with the current leader only being at -10. The biggest issue for me currently is the, dare I say it, random VS/VF that goes OB costing me 2-3 shots. I had maybe 1-2 in each round that easily cost me 10 shots by the end of 4 rounds. Still not getting a ton of perfects but close enough slows and fasts that are manageable. I'm finding putting and the short game really easy and that is saving me a lot of pars.
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Post by mvpmanatee on Aug 25, 2020 17:04:56 GMT -5
I’ve started to swing calibrate before every session. Wow! I hadn't thought of this but in hindsight it doesn't sound that crazy, as touchy as it is tempo wise..
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Post by AFCTUJacko on Aug 25, 2020 17:16:56 GMT -5
I'm -8 through two, but i'm still using maximum forgiveness clubs (inc Driver) so was basically playing a different golf course to my ghost playing partners as i was constantly 30 yards behind them and hitting longer clubs in. Course is wide open so i'll probably put my super duper gold driver in the bag for the final two rounds tomorrow and see how i go.
Also missed a ton of makeable putts. I'd played Purgatory on 174 speeds just before so overread a lot of them at 144 in R1. I'm getting better but still yank the odd one miles left. Speed is generally ok though.
Yesterday i was struggling to break par and in 4 rounds played today i shot 64,68,67,67 so getting there for sure. Game is a lot of fun as long as you aren't hitting big misses the whole time and can plot your way around. Far more satusfying hitting a good shot.
If i could have two wishes they would be slightly more forgiving short irons and wedges, and less spin around the greens on downslopes and from crappy lies. They've made the long game harder but made it easier to get up and down
Biggest tip i can give anyone struggling is to aim for 97-99% power and avoid the overswing. I wonder if lots of people are swinging it like TGC19, getting regular 101% and thinking "that's ok" but it really messes with your tempo. I've phased it out this evening and hit way more perfects and most of my misses were playable.
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Mr_brettly
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TGCT Name: Brett Hudson
Tour: PGA
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Post by Mr_brettly on Aug 25, 2020 17:30:14 GMT -5
Curious on 2 starting questions for those adapting well, if they care to share: 1) are you playing for fast downswings? If so, only on drives, or everywhere? 2) are you using the haptic rumble? If so, everywhere? If only putts, are you inching the putter backward and then just going through once vibrate starts? Trying to wrap my head around some of the scoring, and this was the first couple of things I thought might be in play - tho again, I’ve got no clue what it’s like on ps4. For me personally I have been playing for perfects bc I’ve started to to get the tempo somewhat and normally get slightly fasts or slows so it doesn’t mess the shot up THAT bad. I use rumble on green side shots and putts. But I use a few practice swings around and on the green to get the timing of the rumble and then on the shot I go by my practice swings. Not sure if this helps or not
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Post by fadgewacker on Aug 25, 2020 17:31:05 GMT -5
Hmmmm... -12 in R1, from me of all people. Will post the video when it's finished uploading. Didn't think that would be possible 24 hours ago, that's for sure.
Here it is... apologies for the practice swings!
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Post by donkeypuncherben on Aug 25, 2020 23:32:42 GMT -5
Curious on 2 starting questions for those adapting well, if they care to share: 1) are you playing for fast downswings? If so, only on drives, or everywhere? 2) are you using the haptic rumble? If so, everywhere? If only putts, are you inching the putter backward and then just going through once vibrate starts? Trying to wrap my head around some of the scoring, and this was the first couple of things I thought might be in play - tho again, I’ve got no clue what it’s like on ps4.
I play everything fast. Driver and 3w pretty fast (not close to perfect tempo) and take the risk of an occasional VF but never risking a slow, also everything with those clubs is gripped and ripped at 101% if not higher combined with a push to the right in my swing line because I find that more controllable.
I play approaches much closer to perfect tempo but still on the fast side because I can be more consistent with that. For approaches I adjust to whatever my feel is that day
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SomeCallMeDB
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TGCT Name: Kyler Rhoades
Tour: Platinum
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Post by SomeCallMeDB on Aug 25, 2020 23:41:01 GMT -5
Shot -24 (-4 -6 -9 -5) for the event on PS4. Currently T9.
Been playing a lot of online match play, and not playing a ton on master, but was very satisfied with how I played. Burnt some edges, left a few birdies out there, but overall I was happy with how I played.
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Post by yaters on Aug 26, 2020 1:16:01 GMT -5
This thread is the most disappointing thing I’ve read yet. Wow. I don’t know why I’d even bother with Q school.
Top score first exhibition on Xbox was +12. Top score 2nd exhibition on Xbox is currently -10. It’s not even close to the same game (again).
Well done HB...you had me with this whole calibration nonsense and I foolishly got my hopes up.
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Post by fadgewacker on Aug 26, 2020 4:23:53 GMT -5
This thread is the most disappointing thing I’ve read yet. Wow. I don’t know why I’d even bother with Q school. Top score first exhibition on Xbox was +12. Top score 2nd exhibition on Xbox is currently -10. It’s not even close to the same game (again). Well done HB...you had me with this whole calibration nonsense and I foolishly got my hopes up. -10 total is the best Xbox score? Thru 4 rounds here??? I honestly think the PS4 putting hotfix has tweaked something. I had the 3 best rounds that I've put together so far last night -6, -12, -7... I had to work for them, but it's odd that I had them all last night... Same time as everyone starts shooting the lights out... Has there been any patch at all on XB yet? FWIW - if this is indicative of how scoring will be in future (which I don't think it will be, as it's an easy track) then I'm as disappointed as you... but it seems something has changed, despite not feeling it being much easier, apart from the glitchy putting being improved.
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Post by fadgewacker on Aug 26, 2020 4:38:02 GMT -5
I'm playing for a fast on basically 99% of drives. It's just easier to take away the slow miss which is incredible penalizing. Only time I won't is if a draw just isn't possible on the hole shape. Approaches just depend for me. I played for way more perfects in this tournament than I had been but I still play for fasts when the yardage/wind make sense for it. Just situational mostly. I am using haptic everywhere but I'm a quick putter. I'm taking it back very quickly which is opposite of my old putting style. I compare it to the Snedeker stroke. I'm bringing it back fast and short and swinging through quickly. Thanks for the reply. That’s all basically the opposite of what I’ve been going for/how I’ve been trying to play, but it makes sense. I have thoughts on why etc., but those aren’t called for at this point. Thanks again for the response and insight. I'm airing on the side of fast, just with every driver and trying to leave room for a red fast if things go really wrong, unless it's a cut that is obviously required, but not good at intentionally slowing them so far. Irons, I go for perfect, but again, maybe leave myself room right of the stick to allow for a slight fast. A red fast, leaves me hopefully not too far left of the flag - this changes dependent on trouble left, obviously. Wedges I find need a more aggressive downswing than almost anything else. Splash, I go for fast. Slows to be avoided at all costs is the general rule of thumb. Chipping I really seem to be good at right now... knocking them in regular. Using the Ben Hogan equalizers that are very forgiving. Putting, I pull back slowly and flick forward, trying to get the putt % correct (white) on the practice stroke, which is still very glitchy in regards to it actually giving you reliable feedback. Seem to get a reasonable feel for most putts, but still ram uphill ones a bit much.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2020 7:29:47 GMT -5
Seeing some of the scores in these exhibition events is making me depressed. Back to the flight sim it is then.
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Post by B.Smooth13 on Aug 26, 2020 8:08:13 GMT -5
Thanks for the responses guys, it confirmed much of what I had expected.
So, to me, playing for a fast was the obvious option on day 1 just so I could hit a damn fairway. As I began to get more and more perfect tempo's, it started to feel a bit...hokey?...to purposefully play for something intended as a miss in the game. I don't say this to call out guys playing like that, because I completely understand the strategy in doing so, and don't even really disagree with the argument that fast tempo was built as a strategic element in the game (within reason, not like the super slow chips from 19). Playing a fast on purpose with a wild push just feels...I don't know the best way to explain it without seeming like I'm calling people out, because I am 100% not trying to do that, it just kind of feels wrong. That said, since it's something that everyone seems to have embraced without a second thought, I guess my gut feeling of "intent of the game" type of stuff is not in line with the consensus opinion, so I'll just go back to trying to improve in my play with that fast method. Please, please...please don't misread my intent in this paragraph, wasn't sure whether to post but thought we can all be reasonable enough to just talk about things without automatically assuming someone is attacking someone else or calling them a cheat/exploiter/etc.
The question about the haptics on putting comes straight from a match KenTremendous and I played yesterday. After telling him how to turn the rumble on, it maybe took him 2 putts to seemingly perfect an incredibly slow backswing, then just simply pushing up once the slight rumble feel come through the controller. It honestly was silly how easy it made his distance control, save one or two misfires. After watching that, I personally believe that haptic feedback should be turned off for tour play, but there's also zero way to enforce that since it's a controller setting, so that's just a personal opinion.
Thanks again for the comments, really cool to see guys willing to share strategy in the new game, appreciate the openness - and again, please don't take my commentary as a condemnation, just explaining the rationale for my questions more than anything. Cheers fellas, keep up the great play.
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Post by yaters on Aug 26, 2020 8:24:02 GMT -5
This thread is the most disappointing thing I’ve read yet. Wow. I don’t know why I’d even bother with Q school. Top score first exhibition on Xbox was +12. Top score 2nd exhibition on Xbox is currently -10. It’s not even close to the same game (again). Well done HB...you had me with this whole calibration nonsense and I foolishly got my hopes up. -10 total is the best Xbox score? Thru 4 rounds here??? I honestly think the PS4 putting hotfix has tweaked something. I had the 3 best rounds that I've put together so far last night -6, -12, -7... I had to work for them, but it's odd that I had them all last night... Same time as everyone starts shooting the lights out... Has there been any patch at all on XB yet? FWIW - if this is indicative of how scoring will be in future (which I don't think it will be, as it's an easy track) then I'm as disappointed as you... but it seems something has changed, despite not feeling it being much easier, apart from the glitchy putting being improved. Yes, your first round score would be on top of the entire tournament leaderboard for Xbox right now. The data is a bit skewed though. Not many participants in that tournament yet. And to be honest with you, most of the top Xbox players have given up completely on TGCTours since the last game. They continue to play in a society together, have their own events/Ryder Cups/etc but little to no involvement here any more. Personally, I made it to top 20 WGR at one point and played a few seasons on the PGA. Haven't sniffed that 2+ years now. I think the most laughable thing is you guys talking about this patch you received. 4 days after the game comes out you get a patch. Hey....Xbox over here...it's been 3 F&#%!I YEARS you clowns! Just feels weird to me that HB has never admitted or addressed the situation. Not supporting cross-functional play means they really don't have to. I don't think the admins here care (too much) about the situation. That's not to say they don't care if it is fair - I firmly believe they do. But it helps their plan of only having to manage a competitive tour of 1500 or so people. If all this holds serve, those tours will be dominated by PS4 players with some PC players and a small representation from Xbox. I'm sad I bought into the hype again. Also sad to see the scores so low already from a few people. I smelled trouble a few days ago when someone (and no offense to them) posted a video about how Masters "...isn't so bad...please stop complaining..." and I saw swings with tiny deviations from perfect the entire time. Again, no offense to them, but I've watched a few of their streams before on lower CC levels and they are mediocre at best, yet they are miles ahead already from what I can achieve after 5 years of Golf Club games. I'm done talking about it I guess. It is what it is. Maybe I hold on to the hope that it will miraculously become an even playing field again. I just don't think that will ever be the case with this tempo swing. Good luck on the P(s4)latinum Tours all!
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Post by jtcurrent on Aug 26, 2020 9:35:33 GMT -5
I'm -8 through two, but i'm still using maximum forgiveness clubs (inc Driver) so was basically playing a different golf course to my ghost playing partners as i was constantly 30 yards behind them and hitting longer clubs in. Course is wide open so i'll probably put my super duper gold driver in the bag for the final two rounds tomorrow and see how i go.
Also missed a ton of makeable putts. I'd played Purgatory on 174 speeds just before so overread a lot of them at 144 in R1. I'm getting better but still yank the odd one miles left. Speed is generally ok though.
Yesterday i was struggling to break par and in 4 rounds played today i shot 64,68,67,67 so getting there for sure. Game is a lot of fun as long as you aren't hitting big misses the whole time and can plot your way around. Far more satusfying hitting a good shot.
If i could have two wishes they would be slightly more forgiving short irons and wedges, and less spin around the greens on downslopes and from crappy lies. They've made the long game harder but made it easier to get up and down
Biggest tip i can give anyone struggling is to aim for 97-99% power and avoid the overswing. I wonder if lots of people are swinging it like TGC19, getting regular 101% and thinking "that's ok" but it really messes with your tempo. I've phased it out this evening and hit way more perfects and most of my misses were playable.
I'm working on this now. Long pause at the top...try to hit it straighter and give myself more room for error.
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LFCallum
Weekend Golfer
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TGCT Name: Callum Hutchinson
Tour: PGA
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Post by LFCallum on Aug 26, 2020 9:36:15 GMT -5
Driving has become less of an issue for me now that I'm playing for the fast downswing most of the time. My issue is that I'm missing lots of greens and having to get up and down for par. Luckily I'm getting pretty good at that. If I can sort out my tempo on approach shots then I should be golden, but I'm unsure if I'll be good enough for Platinum. What irons/wedges is everyone using? -5 then -2 for what its worth
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