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Post by ABU_Bear on May 6, 2020 16:46:18 GMT -5
...meh... Call me a negative Nancy, but I see more pitfalls than announcements which indicate any of the various improvements TGC’s core audience has asked for over the past 2/3 years. End of an era, I believe - or at least, can see in the horizon as a real possibility. Agreed..The entire TGC franchise lost it's luster the minute it teamed with 2K. sub par game from day one TCG Tours should revert back to TGC 2...now that was a fun game to play
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 16:54:05 GMT -5
I want an arcade swing and not a tempo one. That is not going to happen so I will most likely not get the game.
The current game is just a huge stress fest and not a source of enjoyment.
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Post by Oscar C on May 6, 2020 16:56:20 GMT -5
When -56 isn’t good enough let’s Pay to get better. Seriously?
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Post by laladiesman on May 6, 2020 17:26:26 GMT -5
I want an arcade swing and not a tempo one. That is not going to happen so I will most likely not get the game. The current game is just a huge stress fest and not a source of enjoyment. With each release in a video game series I expect the difficulty to increase not the opposite. If you are looking for a breezy round play beginner clubs or Mario and Luigi golf.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 17:32:46 GMT -5
I want an arcade swing and not a tempo one. That is not going to happen so I will most likely not get the game. The current game is just a huge stress fest and not a source of enjoyment. With each release in a video game series I expect the difficulty to increase not the opposite. If you are looking for a breezy round play beginner clubs or Mario and Luigi golf. I'm done for then because Beginner clubs are not guaranteed P/P and straight every time for me. If they were so easy to use then I would be playing the game.
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Post by B.Smooth13 on May 6, 2020 17:39:36 GMT -5
I want an arcade swing and not a tempo one. That is not going to happen so I will most likely not get the game. The current game is just a huge stress fest and not a source of enjoyment. With each release in a video game series I expect the difficulty to increase not the opposite. If you are looking for a breezy round play beginner clubs or Mario and Luigi golf. Your general point isn’t invalid, but the dude you’re speaking to has a pretty good depth of experience with the TGC franchise. A tiny bit more respect would be ideal for anyone really than saying “go play Mario golf.”
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 17:44:46 GMT -5
I do tend to say the same things over and over and people know what I like and dislike. I understand his point and I respect it but finding something else to play is extremely difficult to do when you have played the same franchise for 6 years and have an attachment to it even if it is negative most of the time. I remember the days when we had the red shot line to show us where the ball would fly and land. Now that is a bit silly!
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Post by B.Smooth13 on May 6, 2020 17:48:25 GMT -5
Finally watched that little video thing - was expecting to need at least 30 seconds to pay attention....lol. Really? We’re getting excited about that? Come on guys, I get new is supposed to be good but...has it been in this franchise lately?
Fear I’m being overly negative about it and don’t want to be so that’s all from me tonight but....I don’t see it, and am eagerly awaiting to be proven wrong.
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Post by theduke21 on May 6, 2020 18:12:46 GMT -5
Finally watched that little video thing - was expecting to need at least 30 seconds to pay attention....lol. Really? We’re getting excited about that? Come on guys, I get new is supposed to be good but...has it been in this franchise lately? Fear I’m being overly negative about it and don’t want to be so that’s all from me tonight but....I don’t see it, and am eagerly awaiting to be proven wrong. My general excitement is with the increased involvement with 2K and the PGA Tour. I get that some people see that as a negative but TGC wasn't going to survive with just HB Studios going to next-gen in all likelihood. Probably could've survived on PC but that's it. I'm mostly an online gamer but with golf games I do love a good career mode and I'd expect to see that now with real-world player names involved and I'd assume plenty of brands considering 2K already has licenses with most big-time apparel brands. Equipment brands would be cool as well. All this will do is bring in more and more casual players which brings in more money and keeps them making the game and trying to improve the game. There may be some changes with microtransactions and attributes that some won't welcome. I understand that completely. But my glass half full outlook is an archetype system could give some much needed variety to the stale gameplay we see right now. Balanced players is great from a competitive standpoint but I do personally get tired of playing with friends and hitting it the same distance off the tee and then hitting the same club into the green on every single hole. At the end of the day I think this shows that the game and the designer will probably have longevity as we move to next-gen consoles which I'm thankful for. Because quite frankly I was pretty concerned about having any video game golf in 2021. In terms of the video itself, you're right. Looked like mostly the same graphics and game. I'm a bit surprised they're getting something out before the new consoles launch but maybe summer will be the yearly release date and they want to establish an audience now.
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Post by rhino4life on May 6, 2020 18:42:24 GMT -5
Here is a fun headline from 2018: Microtransactions are an 'unfortunate reality of modern gaming', says 2KMy personal guess is the virtual currency will be a lot more valuable this time around, and therefore plenty of ways to buy it with real money. Prediction: There will be the introduction of some sort of attribute system since the most likely thing people would pay real money for is to make their player better. Possibly in the form of purchasing new equipment. That shiny new driver now adds +5 driving accuracy and +5 driving power. Make every club in your bag upgradable to various levels using virtual currency and 2k has an entire virtual golf store full of reasons for people to spend real money. In some ways I'd like an attribute system if it didn't kill competitive balance, but I'd be shocked if we don't see some sore of "pay to win" features included Massive shame if microtransactions improve skill level. That will mean that if a few decide to ‘level up’ everyone on TGC will have to, to ensure they can compete. I can’t see there being a ‘turn attribute upgrades off’ for events, because people won’t bother paying if that’s the case. Hopefully the microtransactions are official courses (which can be ignored if you use created ones) and vanity things like clothes etc Compete? What, like its competitive now? Good news with tempered expectations.
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Post by nevadaballin on May 6, 2020 18:46:56 GMT -5
One player we most likely will not see... Phil Mickelson. I don't believe PGA player's themselves fall under the PGA license. I think each of them are their own business entity? Maybe you could do some digging on that since it is in your wheelhouse much more than mine. I would have to look into it more. When I said players, I basically just meant their names. I'd imagine it's too soon for real players to be in the game available to play with. Maybe next-gen. Would be interesting how they implement that too. Have to imagine they want to, as it'd get way more casual players to buy it if they can play with Justin Thomas or Rickie Fowler. I think you're right about Phil though, as I'm pretty sure he was one of the very select few players whose names wouldn't even show up on leaderboards on old Tiger Woods games, someone would have to check into that for me as I finally gave away the PS3. But I'd expect 99 percent of players to have signed rights and a contract that would at least allow an immersive career mode with most names a part of leaderboards and standings. Their names would definitely be protected under their own biz entities, just as much as their likenesses. I was pondering because other sports have player's unions like the NFLPA that assist in protecting players from copyright infringements and other stuff that would capitalize on their name brand. I'm 99.99999% sure Phil was not in Tiger. 100% positive for the last two releases of TW. But if the pro players are in the game, I wonder if we'll also see them as usable in online play like we did with TW. Of course, that brings other questions along with it: - Will they have ratings that portray strengths and weaknesses? - Will user-created players also have a weighted creation where power is balanced against accuracy? - How would putting be handled in this case? On a completely different thought regarding game play, will stronger winds affect putts?
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Post by theduke21 on May 6, 2020 19:10:48 GMT -5
I would have to look into it more. When I said players, I basically just meant their names. I'd imagine it's too soon for real players to be in the game available to play with. Maybe next-gen. Would be interesting how they implement that too. Have to imagine they want to, as it'd get way more casual players to buy it if they can play with Justin Thomas or Rickie Fowler. I think you're right about Phil though, as I'm pretty sure he was one of the very select few players whose names wouldn't even show up on leaderboards on old Tiger Woods games, someone would have to check into that for me as I finally gave away the PS3. But I'd expect 99 percent of players to have signed rights and a contract that would at least allow an immersive career mode with most names a part of leaderboards and standings. Their names would definitely be protected under their own biz entities, just as much as their likenesses. I was pondering because other sports have player's unions like the NFLPA that assist in protecting players from copyright infringements and other stuff that would capitalize on their name brand. I'm 99.99999% sure Phil was not in Tiger. 100% positive for the last two releases of TW. But if the pro players are in the game, I wonder if we'll also see them as usable in online play like we did with TW. Of course, that brings other questions along with it: - Will they have ratings that portray strengths and weaknesses? - Will user-created players also have a weighted creation where power is balanced against accuracy? - How would putting be handled in this case? On a completely different thought regarding game play, will stronger winds affect putts? I asked someone with some knowledge on it so we'll see, but the PGA Tour does own its players rights much more than other sports. If a player whose main tour is the PGA Tour wants to go play in Europe or Asia in another event, he has to have a waiver signed off from the PGA Tour to be allowed to do so. So that's why I'd assume essentially any Tour player's name at the minimum would be available for leaderboards and standings outside of a potential dew special cases. As for the players being available to play with, I'd lean towards no for this release. Would have to imagine a lot of work still needs to be done toward that with engines and stuff and I think there would have probably already been a leak or some mumblings around. I'd imagine the players will have hidden attributes in the career mode if that's the route they're going sort of like the old Tiger games so the leaderboards and standings mostly feature the top players.
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Post by B.Smooth13 on May 6, 2020 19:18:53 GMT -5
Wait...an “independent contractor,” as all tour players are defined as far as I’m aware based on a variety of sources of info previously learned (articles, sports news, podcasts, etc.), has to have a waiver from the PGA tour to play in another tour’s event? That’s news to me.
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Post by nevadaballin on May 6, 2020 19:20:30 GMT -5
Some people want a more difficult game because they say it's too easy to score Some people want an easier game because they say it's too hard to swing Some people want a completely different game because everything in the game is wrong.
All I want is a "realistic as possible" game as far as physics go. Proper wind affect, backspin, shots just off the inside of a swing cone not being penalized more than shots outside of it, .... and VR for PSVR please. I would love to walk/cart around the great courses you guys make.
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Post by zorbacles on May 6, 2020 19:30:47 GMT -5
Micro transactions dont have to be a bad thing. What is bad is Pay to Win.
The most successful microtransactional game over the last couple of years has been Fortnite. And they made it clear from day 1 that spending money in the game will not give you any advantage whatsoever. and they made a FREAKING FORTUNE.
If i see a game that is pay to win, i wont pay, i will grind the hell out of it to stick it too them. but I spent money on fortnite because i wanted the cool looking stuff.
if they went this path, pay to get official gear etc but not have it affect the gameplay, then they still have massive potential to make money, but not affect the core of the gameplay.
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