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Post by theduke21 on Apr 28, 2020 4:02:15 GMT -5
Played great rd 1 and 2, then got the dreaded email, gutted 😪 too straight or push/pull?
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Post by daddyjules on Apr 28, 2020 4:10:28 GMT -5
Played great rd 1 and 2, then got the dreaded email, gutted 😪 too straight or push/pull? Not sure bud. Just says i havent passed the fair play policy, iv played more recently so i guess its related to my swing being pretty straight tho
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Post by AFCTUJacko on Apr 28, 2020 4:22:50 GMT -5
The winner would probably shoot -72 with low winds but I guess that would be an enjoyable experience needing to birdie nearly every hole to make the cut and never missing a fairway or green. Bit of a strawman going on here. Nobody has said anything close to this. Very few would want this.
Like I said earlier in the thread, we've probably had 13/20 rounds high winds + in the last 5 weeks. Guessing we'll have 5-6 more over the next 2 weeks.
Using the same mechanism to make it more difficult every single week is just a bit repetitive. If the aim is to provide a wide range of conditions over a season (which is what every scheduler says it is), how does having high winds 75% of the time achieve this?
If this course (narrow, tree lined, tough greens, heavy rough an inch off the fairway) wasn't the week to turn down the winds a little bit, when will be? Or will it be High winds 3 out of every 4 rounds we play from now on, on every course, just as a way to keep the scores to an "acceptable" level?
ps - love Sand Hills, and you're right, it's completely suited to heavy winds. Problem is, I suspect many will see past that and just think "God, not this again" because it's become our staple diet rather than an occasional treat
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Post by yeltzman on Apr 28, 2020 6:15:15 GMT -5
For tour play i don't think HB have ever replaced tours and tournaments from tgc1,Where you could set up 4 different days of courses and pins/tees etc,where it gave you the option to set up certain set-ups for conditions.Why HB ever took it out and replaced it with societies it beyond me or at least leave it in so you can have some variety nothing worst i feel since TGC1 playing 4 rounds round the same course,with only the variety is the wind,Love the days you could set a par 3 very short but put the pin very tight....its badly missed so in the end its really HB's fault more than the people who select the course to play or even designers who have to design for everybody not just a select few.Of course they can still ask designers to make a tougher set up not sure if that is still asked.
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Post by theduke21 on Apr 28, 2020 6:18:16 GMT -5
The winner would probably shoot -72 with low winds but I guess that would be an enjoyable experience needing to birdie nearly every hole to make the cut and never missing a fairway or green. Bit of a strawman going on here. Nobody has said anything close to this. Very few would want this.
Like I said earlier in the thread, we've probably had 13/20 rounds high winds + in the last 5 weeks. Guessing we'll have 5-6 more over the next 2 weeks.
Using the same mechanism to make it more difficult every single week is just a bit repetitive. If the aim is to provide a wide range of conditions over a season (which is what every scheduler says it is), how does having high winds 75% of the time achieve this?
If this course (narrow, tree lined, tough greens, heavy rough an inch off the fairway) wasn't the week to turn down the winds a little bit, when will be? Or will it be High winds 3 out of every 4 rounds we play from now on, on every course, just as a way to keep the scores to an "acceptable" level?
ps - love Sand Hills, and you're right, it's completely suited to heavy winds. Problem is, I suspect many will see past that and just think "God, not this again" because it's become our staple diet rather than an occasional treat
I would like to try to do 2 a piece, maybe 1 of all 4 a lot of weeks, switching it up a bit some weeks. But some courses still won't hold up at all with 2 low/medium winds, so it just depends. Even with the tree-lined course this week, I felt that Thursday setup with very high with that direction played really, really well when I practiced it and still think that after playing it. Maybe could've mixed in a medium for one of the highs though, I'll agree with that. Colonial and Rocket Mortgage will be a bit more benign because of the courses/setups. PGA is 2 and 2 with 1 VH.
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Post by theduke21 on Apr 28, 2020 6:19:02 GMT -5
For tour play i don't think HB have ever replaced tours and tournaments from tgc1,Where you could set up 4 different days of courses and pins/tees etc,where it gave you the option to set up certain set-ups for conditions.Why HB ever took it out and replaced it with societies it beyond me or at least leave it in so you can have some variety nothing worst i feel since TGC1 playing 4 rounds round the same course,with only the variety is the wind,Love the days you could set a par 3 very short but put the pin very tight....its badly missed so in the end its really HB's fault more than the people who select the course to play.Of course they can still ask designers to make a tougher set up not sure if that is still asked. This is a really really good point. I miss when designers had different setups with tees a lot. Really made tournaments more fun. I personally would completely change the angles of multiple holes for a couple rounds and I know many others did that as well. 4 rounds at the same exact course now certainly feels more stale.
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Post by fadgewacker on Apr 28, 2020 6:39:27 GMT -5
All this talk about golf and wind... Pah. 6 fallen soldiers so far... 1 first timer, that I'm very surprised at. Hope you get squared up 2 are on 2 pulls this year now, Jules as he indicated is one, and the other with a win on an alt event in the last 6 weeks might be feeling a bit Del-icate about the removal Our resident romantic Frenchman(?) Monsieur Casanova has racked up 4 DQ's in a row since push pull But another Frenchman(?) Stephane Genty and the Fin, Hynonen have been DQ'd 5 weeks running now... Phew. Golf: I was, ok, I suppose in R1. R2 improved, but with a couple of real squandered chances from close range, R3 much improved and R4, again, competitive. Bogey free, but also eagle free sadly, saw me cross the line at -41. Strange game. Good luck everybody.
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Post by CuseHokie on Apr 28, 2020 6:51:23 GMT -5
All this talk about golf and wind... Pah. 6 fallen soldiers so far... 1 first timer, that I'm very surprised at. Hope you get squared up 2 are on 2 pulls this year now, Jules as he indicated is one, and the other with a win on an alt event in the last 6 weeks might be feeling a bit Del-icate about the removal Our resident romantic Frenchman(?) Monsieur Casanova has racked up 4 DQ's in a row since push pull But another Frenchman(?) Stephane Genty and the Fin, Hynonen have been DQ'd 5 weeks running now... Phew. Golf: I was, ok, I suppose in R1. R2 improved, but with a couple of real squandered chances from close range, R3 much improved and R4, again, competitive. Bogey free, but also eagle free sadly, saw me cross the line at -41. Strange game. Good luck everybody. Can you do a table of pulls per 100,000 folks (like the covid charts) and tell me how many France has? Seems to be such a disproportionate amount. Mmmmhmmm?
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Post by Cecil Harvey on Apr 28, 2020 6:55:18 GMT -5
For tour play i don't think HB have ever replaced tours and tournaments from tgc1,Where you could set up 4 different days of courses and pins/tees etc,where it gave you the option to set up certain set-ups for conditions.Why HB ever took it out and replaced it with societies it beyond me or at least leave it in so you can have some variety nothing worst i feel since TGC1 playing 4 rounds round the same course,with only the variety is the wind,Love the days you could set a par 3 very short but put the pin very tight....its badly missed so in the end its really HB's fault more than the people who select the course to play. This!!!!!
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Post by fadgewacker on Apr 28, 2020 7:18:55 GMT -5
All this talk about golf and wind... Pah. 6 fallen soldiers so far... 1 first timer, that I'm very surprised at. Hope you get squared up 2 are on 2 pulls this year now, Jules as he indicated is one, and the other with a win on an alt event in the last 6 weeks might be feeling a bit Del-icate about the removal Our resident romantic Frenchman(?) Monsieur Casanova has racked up 4 DQ's in a row since push pull But another Frenchman(?) Stephane Genty and the Fin, Hynonen have been DQ'd 5 weeks running now... Phew. Golf: I was, ok, I suppose in R1. R2 improved, but with a couple of real squandered chances from close range, R3 much improved and R4, again, competitive. Bogey free, but also eagle free sadly, saw me cross the line at -41. Strange game. Good luck everybody. Can you do a table of pulls per 100,000 folks (like the covid charts) and tell me how many France has? Seems to be such a disproportionate amount. Mmmmhmmm? Sure... spoiler - Japan are clear winners for #pulls per man. Nobody can hold a candle to USA for total pulls, however.
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Post by B.Smooth13 on Apr 28, 2020 7:39:53 GMT -5
A big part of the enjoyable experience from feedback I've been viewing in here for years is reasonable scoring, so that is part of it. I hope you're equally weighing the feedback from some saying they want more "realistic" scores (impossible) with the plethora of us who have been saying, for years, that limiting scoring should not be one of the foundational elements of consideration in creating a tourney setup. Manipulating settings in a way that purposefully limits scoring, IMO, has always been a pitfall here, more so at some times than others. I recognize the feedback you reference in comments from others wanting limited scoring, my hope is that you also equally take into account feedback from others who don't care about scoring and are more focused on the round-to-round experience of playing, regardless of what winning scores or scoring spread amongst the field ends up being.
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Post by alexandre on Apr 28, 2020 7:56:05 GMT -5
Uses fade / draw. It makes it much easier, despite changing the distance between clubs. I started to map and it is better than placing the right or left, calculating where it goes to the ball. I lose my distance, but avoid serious mistakes (as long as I hit the swing correctly). I tried to give a hint imagining that I really you don't know what to do. but if you're kidding and the problem is just lack of time / willingness to train, sorry. I have absolutely no clue how to play in VH winds haha. It's just comical. Probably should practice or something! If I didn't miss 2 or 3 5 footers in R2, I'd have had a respectable score in that round. Just awful golf all around. Going to have to get motivated if I'm going to get out of strike zone every week.
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Post by Cecil Harvey on Apr 28, 2020 7:56:54 GMT -5
-8 thru 2 on PGA
-15 thru 2 on TST
Same course
I don't even know where I am going with that, but just something to add if it means anything.
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Post by donkeypuncherben on Apr 28, 2020 8:03:40 GMT -5
I enjoyed the setup this week, I was right in it until middle of round 4, got a blue screen on hole 11. Booted back up and was thankfully in the same place, but afterward every swing had an off tempo. I probably should have reset or waited for the next day rather than play it out
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Post by alexandre on Apr 28, 2020 8:59:42 GMT -5
No wind, right? -8 thru 2 on PGA -15 thru 2 on TST Same course I don't even know where I am going with that, but just something to add if it means anything.
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