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Post by unclevirt on Apr 20, 2020 7:46:01 GMT -5
Talking to you is like talking to a wall. Get over yourself dude. Either talk to Brighttail about settings or adopt to what everyone uses. I don’t know how your alarm bells didn’t go off when you had 7 flop hole outs a few months back. You realize that’s impossible in one tournament do you not? Wall.
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Post by B.Smooth13 on Apr 20, 2020 7:48:13 GMT -5
I'm the first timer. I'm currently asking why but I think I'm packing it up. I kept the same settings with my mouse as I had before when I hit it too crooked for the api and worked my but off to find a straighter swing. Well, now it's too straight. Honestly not interested in an argument or trying to call you the C-word (not that one) or anything, but...I'm sorry Stephen, something you said a little while ago has always stuck with me for some reason, and now you saying you're suddenly too good at swinging straight flies directly in the face of that earlier statement that you made.
This is from less than 2 months ago:
The "always swung like this" argument doesn't work.... Trying doing it for 1000 hours and then you find out it's wrong. It's literally my natural swing. A straight swing for me doesn't feel straight in the slightest but it feels like I have to pull my mouse down to the right and push it up to the left. It doesn't feel natural at all. IT NEVER WILL. Don't give me that CRAP that it's not natural. The first swing I took on this game had that path. I acknowledge your statement about "working your butt off" to still compete at the highest level without the push swing thing, and it's obvious that you've mastered the gameplay elements of setting up a shot and reading putts as good as anyone. At the same time, however, I'm utterly confounded as to how you can go from "it's my natural swing...swinging straight doesn't feel natural, it never will" to suddenly, swinging straight is not a problem at all, so much so that it's too straight - all in less than 2 months.
I'm far from a mouse user expert, but I have a basic understanding, and I'd be willing to bet that you could soften up your settings in a way that allowed for more/proper deviation in your swingline and everything would be OK. Hopefully all is well with Ron (was actually thinking about him last week and how we hadn't heard from him in a while) and he'll throw some advice your way, he's the know-it-all in that world of expertise and is always willing to help fellow mouse players.
Again, not trying to make an argument about this, but going from "I won't/can't/will never swing straight, push is natural to me and it's what I do" to "I tried hard and now I'm too good at swinging straight" in not even 2 months just doesn't make objective, logical sense to me. Best of luck getting it sorted out, hope you stick around and are able to do so.
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Post by theduke21 on Apr 20, 2020 7:48:50 GMT -5
FWIW I completely understand Virt not wanting to touch controller because I’m the same way but on the opposite side.
I could play MnK and be much more competitive on a lot of shooters I play, but I’m just completely unwilling to make that switch from controller. If it’s the way you’ve played for years and years, it’s tough to make the change.
I have no clue how the mouse swing or the settings work on this game, but just wanted to comment on that part of it.
This is one of the very very few games available on all platforms that doesn’t provide an insane advantage on MnK, and from most viewpoints it’s way tougher on there.
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Post by CuseHokie on Apr 20, 2020 7:55:19 GMT -5
Victim card in full effect today. #millenialWay
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Post by unclevirt on Apr 20, 2020 8:00:48 GMT -5
I'm the first timer. I'm currently asking why but I think I'm packing it up. I kept the same settings with my mouse as I had before when I hit it too crooked for the api and worked my but off to find a straighter swing. Well, now it's too straight. Honestly not interested in an argument or trying to call you the C-word (not that one) or anything, but...I'm sorry Stephen, something you said a little while ago has always stuck with me for some reason, and now you saying you're suddenly too good at swinging straight flies directly in the face of that earlier statement that you made.
This is from less than 2 months ago:
Trying doing it for 1000 hours and then you find out it's wrong. It's literally my natural swing. A straight swing for me doesn't feel straight in the slightest but it feels like I have to pull my mouse down to the right and push it up to the left. It doesn't feel natural at all. IT NEVER WILL. Don't give me that CRAP that it's not natural. The first swing I took on this game had that path. I acknowledge your statement about "working your butt off" to still compete at the highest level without the push swing thing, and it's obvious that you've mastered the gameplay elements of setting up a shot and reading putts as good as anyone. At the same time, however, I'm utterly confounded as to how you can go from "it's my natural swing...swinging straight doesn't feel natural, it never will" to suddenly, swinging straight is not a problem at all, so much so that it's too straight - all in less than 2 months.
I'm far from a mouse user expert, but I have a basic understanding, and I'd be willing to bet that you could soften up your settings in a way that allowed for more/proper deviation in your swingline and everything would be OK. Hopefully all is well with Ron (was actually thinking about him last week and how we hadn't heard from him in a while) and he'll throw some advice your way, he's the know-it-all in that world of expertise and is always willing to help fellow mouse players.
Again, not trying to make an argument about this, but going from "I won't/can't/will never swing straight, push is natural to me and it's what I do" to "I tried hard and now I'm too good at swinging straight" in not even 2 months just doesn't make objective, logical sense to me. Best of luck getting it sorted out, hope you stick around and are able to do so. I'm not ignoring that at all Justin. It was my natural swing. But, I put in a lot of hours and changed it and now this swing feels natural. I compared it to changing grips last week. With that being said, I use the same settings for everything, for regular mouse movement on my computer, for FPS games, other games and for this game. I'm not interested in barely passing the metric. The problem that I assume I have is that my dpi is too low for this game (like you mentioned). I also assume that it was never picked up before because I was swinging wonkier? When I swing straight, it is definitely much more controlled? So to speak. I don't just flail about. Because of this, maybe there's a lack of data points or it's just registering as too straight. I don't know. There are a few times in the round where my driver/approach don't quite reach the end of the swing meter but it's not very many and there's plenty of people in here who pass doing it many more times a round. Here's what I do know. Now that I've successfully gone through a swing transition, I don't feel like going through another one. Remember when Dale went down to the BCT because he didn't feel like trying? That's where I'm at. I gave it a shot, I got to a point where I was straight (this is now confirmed as being too straight from admins). Besides, what do you even get on this tour for winning? A bunch of people questioning you?...fun reward.
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Post by SweetTeeBag on Apr 20, 2020 8:07:27 GMT -5
Honestly not interested in an argument or trying to call you the C-word (not that one) or anything, but...I'm sorry Stephen, something you said a little while ago has always stuck with me for some reason, and now you saying you're suddenly too good at swinging straight flies directly in the face of that earlier statement that you made.
This is from less than 2 months ago:
I acknowledge your statement about "working your butt off" to still compete at the highest level without the push swing thing, and it's obvious that you've mastered the gameplay elements of setting up a shot and reading putts as good as anyone. At the same time, however, I'm utterly confounded as to how you can go from "it's my natural swing...swinging straight doesn't feel natural, it never will" to suddenly, swinging straight is not a problem at all, so much so that it's too straight - all in less than 2 months.
I'm far from a mouse user expert, but I have a basic understanding, and I'd be willing to bet that you could soften up your settings in a way that allowed for more/proper deviation in your swingline and everything would be OK. Hopefully all is well with Ron (was actually thinking about him last week and how we hadn't heard from him in a while) and he'll throw some advice your way, he's the know-it-all in that world of expertise and is always willing to help fellow mouse players.
Again, not trying to make an argument about this, but going from "I won't/can't/will never swing straight, push is natural to me and it's what I do" to "I tried hard and now I'm too good at swinging straight" in not even 2 months just doesn't make objective, logical sense to me. Best of luck getting it sorted out, hope you stick around and are able to do so. I'm not ignoring that at all Justin. It was my natural swing. But, I put in a lot of hours and changed it and now this swing feels natural. I compared it to changing grips last week. With that being said, I use the same settings for everything, for regular mouse movement on my computer, for FPS games, other games and for this game. I'm not interested in barely passing the metric. The problem that I assume I have is that my dpi is too low for this game (like you mentioned). I also assume that it was never picked up before because I was swinging wonkier? When I swing straight, it is definitely much more controlled? So to speak. I don't just flail about. Because of this, maybe there's a lack of data points or it's just registering as too straight. I don't know. There are a few times in the round where my driver/approach don't quite reach the end of the swing meter but it's not very many and there's plenty of people in here who pass doing it many more times a round. Here's what I do know. Now that I've successfully gone through a swing transition, I don't feel like going through another one. Remember when Dale went down to the BCT because he didn't feel like trying? That's where I'm at. I gave it a shot, I got to a point where I was straight (this is now confirmed as being too straight from admins). Besides, what do you even get on this tour for winning? A bunch of people questioning you?...fun reward. BCT has some openings...
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Post by fadgewacker on Apr 20, 2020 8:09:03 GMT -5
Honestly not interested in an argument or trying to call you the C-word (not that one) or anything, but...I'm sorry Stephen, something you said a little while ago has always stuck with me for some reason, and now you saying you're suddenly too good at swinging straight flies directly in the face of that earlier statement that you made.
This is from less than 2 months ago:
I acknowledge your statement about "working your butt off" to still compete at the highest level without the push swing thing, and it's obvious that you've mastered the gameplay elements of setting up a shot and reading putts as good as anyone. At the same time, however, I'm utterly confounded as to how you can go from "it's my natural swing...swinging straight doesn't feel natural, it never will" to suddenly, swinging straight is not a problem at all, so much so that it's too straight - all in less than 2 months.
I'm far from a mouse user expert, but I have a basic understanding, and I'd be willing to bet that you could soften up your settings in a way that allowed for more/proper deviation in your swingline and everything would be OK. Hopefully all is well with Ron (was actually thinking about him last week and how we hadn't heard from him in a while) and he'll throw some advice your way, he's the know-it-all in that world of expertise and is always willing to help fellow mouse players.
Again, not trying to make an argument about this, but going from "I won't/can't/will never swing straight, push is natural to me and it's what I do" to "I tried hard and now I'm too good at swinging straight" in not even 2 months just doesn't make objective, logical sense to me. Best of luck getting it sorted out, hope you stick around and are able to do so. I'm not ignoring that at all Justin. It was my natural swing. But, I put in a lot of hours and changed it and now this swing feels natural. I compared it to changing grips last week. With that being said, I use the same settings for everything, for regular mouse movement on my computer, for FPS games, other games and for this game. I'm not interested in barely passing the metric. The problem that I assume I have is that my dpi is too low for this game (like you mentioned). I also assume that it was never picked up before because I was swinging wonkier? When I swing straight, it is definitely much more controlled? So to speak. I don't just flail about. Because of this, maybe there's a lack of data points or it's just registering as too straight. I don't know. There are a few times in the round where my driver/approach don't quite reach the end of the swing meter but it's not very many and there's plenty of people in here who pass doing it many more times a round. Here's what I do know. Now that I've successfully gone through a swing transition, I don't feel like going through another one. Remember when Dale went down to the BCT because he didn't feel like trying? That's where I'm at. I gave it a shot, I got to a point where I was straight (this is now confirmed as being too straight from admins). Besides, what do you even get on this tour for winning? A bunch of people questioning you?...fun reward. I don't believe you were questioned when you won, more congratulated, as I remember it. Questions came with the Push / Pull, which you agreed on after a short while, and you've addressed the DQ situation head on today, without being questioned initially. If your DPI is too low, you're not re-learning the swing again, you've done that, you'd only be learning to live with an similar level of difficulty to your peers.
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Post by inflames47 on Apr 20, 2020 8:10:04 GMT -5
Has anyone heard from Brighttail lately? deathstar and I are concerned as we have not seen him since April 11. He has not been on Steam, posted here and has not read and replied to my private messages to him via Facebook (his last post there was on Feb 14th). A bit worried for our friend since he is very vocal here in the forums. He’s been active on Twitter as recently as yesterday.
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Post by unclevirt on Apr 20, 2020 8:13:41 GMT -5
Victim card in full effect today. #millenialWay Victim card, lol. I didn't once say I was a victim. I literally just said it's my own fault based on my settings. I hope you aren't an essential worker. #nuisancetosociety
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Post by unclevirt on Apr 20, 2020 8:15:01 GMT -5
I'm not ignoring that at all Justin. It was my natural swing. But, I put in a lot of hours and changed it and now this swing feels natural. I compared it to changing grips last week. With that being said, I use the same settings for everything, for regular mouse movement on my computer, for FPS games, other games and for this game. I'm not interested in barely passing the metric. The problem that I assume I have is that my dpi is too low for this game (like you mentioned). I also assume that it was never picked up before because I was swinging wonkier? When I swing straight, it is definitely much more controlled? So to speak. I don't just flail about. Because of this, maybe there's a lack of data points or it's just registering as too straight. I don't know. There are a few times in the round where my driver/approach don't quite reach the end of the swing meter but it's not very many and there's plenty of people in here who pass doing it many more times a round. Here's what I do know. Now that I've successfully gone through a swing transition, I don't feel like going through another one. Remember when Dale went down to the BCT because he didn't feel like trying? That's where I'm at. I gave it a shot, I got to a point where I was straight (this is now confirmed as being too straight from admins). Besides, what do you even get on this tour for winning? A bunch of people questioning you?...fun reward. I don't believe you were questioned when you won, more congratulated, as I remember it. Questions came with the Push / Pull, which you agreed on after a short while, and you've addressed the DQ situation head on today, without being questioned initially. If your DPI is too low, you're not re-learning the swing again, you've done that, you'd only be learning to live with an similar level of difficulty to your peers. You're right fadge. All of you are right. Besides cuse, he's an idiot.
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Post by stoneysooner on Apr 20, 2020 8:20:53 GMT -5
I putted my butt off this week to end up in a respectable position. Problem is, I am worried about API for the first time ever playing this game. My swing was trash this week, and I was never able to adjust appropriately. On the bright side, I was missing all over the place, so I am assuming that the API won't flag it as not a single swing was the same. I'd miss one right, but catch a fast and get lucky. I would adjust and end up with a jagged swing line and left, and through two rounds just never got comfortable at all. Anyway, I was all over the place for the most part, but played the wind well and putted very well. Best of luck out there to everyone yet to play and finish.
-12
-10
-13
-10
-45 Total
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Post by CuseHokie on Apr 20, 2020 8:22:14 GMT -5
I don't believe you were questioned when you won, more congratulated, as I remember it. Questions came with the Push / Pull, which you agreed on after a short while, and you've addressed the DQ situation head on today, without being questioned initially. If your DPI is too low, you're not re-learning the swing again, you've done that, you'd only be learning to live with an similar level of difficulty to your peers. You're right fadge. All of you are right. Besides cuse, he's an idiot. I’m sorry. I should be thanking you for raising money for our essential TGC Staff. Just for you I’ll throw in $11 for your pull. Easy accounting for Fadge. Brings the total to $15?
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Post by flyingj75 on Apr 20, 2020 8:34:35 GMT -5
Dude, you yapped on and on about your push swing nor being an exploit until it was proven to you. Now you are yapping the "poor me" card when your next exploit (whether intentional or not, I will assume the latter) got you API'D. One might wonder after several months of this that MAYBE YOU ARE WRONG. Geez, either play fairly or stop with the threats of leaving and do it. Damn, it's so obvious that you are not oblivious to the facts, you know what's up, fix it.
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Post by flyingj75 on Apr 20, 2020 8:36:18 GMT -5
You're right fadge. All of you are right. Besides cuse, he's an idiot. I’m sorry. I should be thanking you for raising money for our essential TGC Staff. Just for you I’ll throw in $11 for your pull. Easy accounting for Fadge. Brings the total to $15? I'm in, I'll match that, let me know when we come up with a total.
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Post by Denzil Penberthy on Apr 20, 2020 9:02:36 GMT -5
I putted my butt off this week to end up in a respectable position. Problem is, I am worried about API for the first time ever playing this game. My swing was trash this week, and I was never able to adjust appropriately. On the bright side, I was missing all over the place, so I am assuming that the API won't flag it as not a single swing was the same. I'd miss one right, but catch a fast and get lucky. I would adjust and end up with a jagged swing line and left, and through two rounds just never got comfortable at all. Anyway, I was all over the place for the most part, but played the wind well and putted very well. Best of luck out there to everyone yet to play and finish. -12 -10 -13 -10 -45 Total Stoney, I get weeks like that as well. Even happens between 2 rds in the same day. It’s akin to the weird tempo which effects when the moons gravitation aligns with anything. All we can do is try to be as straight as possible. I have heard that as long as ‘most’ shots are within the cone then we should be alright. i keep suffering trepidation whenever I log in to see if I have failed.......and make ıt onto fadge’s post of shame! Though to be fair I don’t think some of the people who regularly fail feel shame.... DP #medıumplayersmatter!
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