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Post by catcherman22 on Apr 6, 2020 22:21:32 GMT -5
I don't see any problems with the total yardage. With the same amount of loft my 4i lands 202y with a 99% lie. His shot, with a 97% lie would land 195y, 3y short of the pin with current conditions; 18* 1.6 = 27 + 171 (166+15F up) = 198y adjusted. With a 98.5% lie, considering wind, elevation, and pin distance, his ball would land 198y, which it did. theduke21 Those were nice shots He had a 100% lie with a 17ish mph wind at 5 oclock.. that's about 13 or so relative... he hit a 201 club 171 yards with a 13 mph relative headwind... Lets put it this way.. if that had been a 10 mph wind, it would have flown about 185 ish.
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Post by Brighttail on Apr 6, 2020 22:39:56 GMT -5
Anyone see who is atop the leader board? When did he come back? Looking it up i guess 5 weeks so welcome back!
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Post by theduke21 on Apr 6, 2020 22:48:58 GMT -5
I don't see any problems with the total yardage. With the same amount of loft my 4i lands 202y with a 99% lie. His shot, with a 97% lie would land 195y, 3y short of the pin with current conditions; 18* 1.6 = 27 + 171 (166+15F up) = 198y adjusted. With a 98.5% lie, considering wind, elevation, and pin distance, his ball would land 198y, which it did. theduke21 Those were nice shots He had a 100% lie with a 17ish mph wind at 5 oclock.. that's about 13 or so relative... he hit a 201 club 171 yards with a 13 mph relative headwind... Lets put it this way.. if that had been a 10 mph wind, it would have flown about 185 ish. 17-mph wind at 5:30 is hurting at least 20 yards if not more on any type of shot. For a long shot like this on a near-fully lofted club, it's hurting close to 30 yards depending what percentage I get on the shot. And that's fairly true to life as well.
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Post by cseanny on Apr 7, 2020 1:11:26 GMT -5
That's simply false. First, it's beyond 5 oclock. If using cosine, for every 15 degrees we start with (approximates) .25, .5, .7, .86, and .96. I'd place it between .9-.92 (17.5*.08 = 1.4), which is 16 mph adjusted wind * 1.6 = 25.76 mph. He DID NOT have a 100% lie. Top right clearly states 97% - 100%, meaning, he could have anything between those numbers.
So 171 + 25.76 = 196.76. IF duke had a 98% lie that would be 201y - 4y = 197y total carry. His ball in fact landed a smidgen past the hole. Everything lines up perfectly fine. While I have had plenty of *** moments regarding the wind, this scenario doesn't qualify.
Edit: I just put a "mils" overlay on top of the video, and it's actually 75 degrees, or exactly .96593. So 17.5mph * .96593 = 16.9 * 1.6 = 27mph. At 5 oclock you'd still be at 60 degrees, or a .86 multiplier, which would add up to an additional +24 yards to the shot, or 195 adjusted, which is exactly 97% of a 201 club.
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Post by Brighttail on Apr 7, 2020 1:47:04 GMT -5
Glad someone understands math. I'm still figuring how to loft up a 7 hybrid that much. Super loft here we come again. With a great line to hit it. It was a fantastic shot.
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Post by catcherman22 on Apr 7, 2020 2:09:56 GMT -5
That's simply false. First, it's beyond 5 oclock. If using cosine, for every 15 degrees we start with (approximates) .25, .5, .7, .86, and .96. I'd place it between .9-.92 (17.5*.08 = 1.4), which is 16 mph adjusted wind * 1.6 = 25.76 mph. He DID NOT have a 100% lie. Top right clearly states 97% - 100%, meaning, he could have anything between those numbers.
So 171 + 25.76 = 196.76. IF duke had a 98% lie that would be 201y - 4y = 197y total carry. His ball in fact landed a smidgen past the hole. Everything lines up perfectly fine. While I have had plenty of *** moments regarding the wind, this scenario doesn't qualify.
We can debate this all day.. your numbers base off of a 1.6 factor... mine is slightly lower than that... but that has to do with the elevation and the downhill lie he was hitting off of. I've always said anyway that I thought the head on winds were somewhat accurate... my problem with very fast wind is more the cross winds.
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Post by theduke21 on Apr 7, 2020 2:12:01 GMT -5
Glad someone understands math. I'm still figuring how to loft up a 7 hybrid that much. Super loft here we come again. With a great line to hit it. It was a fantastic shot. For what it's worth I'm rarely a big lofter lol. I try to use fast backswings when I'm at a bad distance. But I'll super loft in spots like that when I'm way in between clubs and need to use the wind to get close.
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Post by SMIFFYLFC79 on Apr 7, 2020 3:11:08 GMT -5
So, made the Masters Event for the 6th time, unfortunately only made 1 cut in my previous 5 attempts, so was kinda wishing for a miracle to make my 2nd cut. Played a round bogey free, thats a massive plus for me, not for many of you, i guess, but for me its a big deal. -9 & -7 = (-16) Thru 36H Will it be enough? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE nobody else play Well played all who have finished Forget, sorry, i mean play well those yet to begin Lastly, I hope you and your families are all safe and well.
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Post by AFCTUJacko on Apr 7, 2020 4:20:08 GMT -5
The aforementioned Alby @ No 2.
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Post by Cecil Harvey on Apr 7, 2020 4:46:03 GMT -5
One strike or two is the only question for me. I don't know what it is, but it felt like the greens didn't really play like they have in the past. Augusta, to me, means very slippery greens. I usually miss on the low side as it is, let alone on fast, slippery greens. However, I found myself consistently either over-reading breaks this week or there was something going on where the breaks weren't playing as much as I remember.
*shrug*
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Post by SMIFFYLFC79 on Apr 7, 2020 5:48:19 GMT -5
So after playing a bogey free rd, confidence was high, whether or not i make the cut, i thought just incase i did, i would finish up and try and take fadgewacker 's pocket money, hhmm, bad idea, if i do miraculous make the cut, i lose my pocket money well played fadge. On a plus note, i played rds 3+4 bogey free as well, i know right? Game must be broken as i only had 1 bogey throughout (Mr Bean dance complete) Have to agree with Cecil Harvey i felt the greens never broke as much as past versions of the course, I myself thought this version was much more forgiving than previous versions, either that or the gameplay has been the difference. AFCTUJacko great shot buddy. -9 & -6 added to my -9 & -7 = (-31) finish (If make cut of course ) I'll reiterate play well those yet to start/finish, good luck. Stay Safe All.
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Post by smokeezimzim92 on Apr 7, 2020 7:17:15 GMT -5
-9 -7 through 2 rounds. Missed a ton of putts! Greens felt slower than 182 to me personally. Alot of great scores being posted! Well played everyone!
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Post by AFCTUJacko on Apr 7, 2020 7:55:05 GMT -5
Here are a few highlights from my week, featuring a hole out on 14 and then a trio of hybrids in the very high winds on Sunday. Stunning shots Tyler.
As a comparison, I hit a random very slow @ 7 and then missed a 6 footer for bogey.
Took the wrong club at 9 and came up short
And just didn't have the cojones to try and fly the bunker @ 18 so played to the right and missed the 15 footer.
It's weird because i played the high winds really well. As soon as it goes to very high territory i am all over the place.
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Post by ClassAct147 on Apr 7, 2020 10:51:14 GMT -5
It's looking like a swing can't be so straight that it fails the api anymore. Clamp down on the side swipers but it's a field day for pin seekers and flickers.
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Post by mrohde4 on Apr 7, 2020 13:17:49 GMT -5
It’s always boggled my mind how anyone fails API once let alone multiple times if we’re being honest.
Until there’s an in-person event with controlled conditions where we can eyeball each other, those who have failed API multiple times will always be shrouded in doubt. Sorry if that ruffles feathers. Actually, not sorry at all.
Anyhoo, a mediocre -13 after two for me which will be outside looking in. Thought the setup was superb, and really bummed I can’t check off this tournament as the last major to complete the career made cuts grand slam. #medium
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