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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2020 18:11:10 GMT -5
I have started working on the Oaks course at TPC San Antonio, host of the Valero Texas Open. Right now, I have some problem posting images on the forums.. Here is one from the 18th: imageshack.us/i/plYnNykEj
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Post by hoosierhoops24 on Mar 28, 2020 18:23:53 GMT -5
I have started working on the Oaks course at TPC San Antonio, host of the Valero Texas Open. Right now, I have some problem posting images on the forums.. Here is one from the 18th: imageshack.us/i/plYnNykEjLooks like you're off to a great start. Glad you decided to take this on. It was sorely needed in the game and I'm sure you'll do a great job with it, as you have with your other designs.!
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Post by sandsaver01 on Mar 29, 2020 7:11:13 GMT -5
I have started working on the Oaks course at TPC San Antonio, host of the Valero Texas Open. Right now, I have some problem posting images on the forums.. Here is one from the 18th: imageshack.us/i/plYnNykEjI had prepared to do this course a few weeks back Anders (I did not know you were interested in it), but after bringing down the Lidar with the trees inserted and OSM the plant meter was up over 60%. I am reluctant to start working on a course when the plant meter begins at that level for fear I will not be able to do what I want with the planting without maxing the meter. Alotian was the same problem. I applaud you doing it and am anxious to see how it turns out!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2020 7:47:43 GMT -5
I have started working on the Oaks course at TPC San Antonio, host of the Valero Texas Open. Right now, I have some problem posting images on the forums.. Here is one from the 18th: imageshack.us/i/plYnNykEjI had prepared to do this course a few weeks back Anders (I did not know you were interested in it), but after bringing down the Lidar with the trees inserted and OSM the plant meter was up over 60%. I am reluctant to start working on a course when the plant meter begins at that level for fear I will not be able to do what I want with the planting without maxing the meter. Alotian was the same problem. I applaud you doing it and am anxious to see how it turns out! There was almost no mapping done in OSM on this course. My old PC got problems, so all my projects is on pause until that PC is fixed (problem with the motherboard most likely). So I started looking at Waialea - and the lidar data for Hawaii is very bad. Then I found out that this course was not mapped, and no one had made any comment on starting on it as I could see. I will repeat what I always say: do not use trees from Chad Tools. First: you cannot trust the trees to be correct, so you either way must measure and check everything and most likely must replant everything. Secondly - the trees imported from the tool takes too much plantmeter, so when you remove all the trees, you still have spent alot of plant meter. Planting trees saves a ton of plantmeter, and you get the trees correct with measurement combined with pictures and videos. I used trees on my first two courses, and found out that this was crap and have never used it since. As good as the tool is, this is not good.
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Post by sandsaver01 on Mar 29, 2020 9:09:24 GMT -5
I had prepared to do this course a few weeks back Anders (I did not know you were interested in it), but after bringing down the Lidar with the trees inserted and OSM the plant meter was up over 60%. I am reluctant to start working on a course when the plant meter begins at that level for fear I will not be able to do what I want with the planting without maxing the meter. Alotian was the same problem. I applaud you doing it and am anxious to see how it turns out! There was almost no mapping done in OSM on this course. My old PC got problems, so all my projects is on pause until that PC is fixed (problem with the motherboard most likely). So I started looking at Waialea - and the lidar data for Hawaii is very bad. Then I found out that this course was not mapped, and no one had made any comment on starting on it as I could see. I will repeat what I always say: do not use trees from Chad Tools. First: you cannot trust the trees to be correct, so you either way must measure and check everything and most likely must replant everything. Secondly - the trees imported from the tool takes too much plantmeter, so when you remove all the trees, you still have spent alot of plant meter. Planting trees saves a ton of plantmeter, and you get the trees correct with measurement combined with pictures and videos. I used trees on my first two courses, and found out that this was crap and have never used it since. As good as the tool is, this is not good. I beg to differ Anders. I have used trees on Old Town and am now using them on Bandon Dunes (did not need them on Sand Hills, there are no trees lol). I have found that you are partly right, the type of tree is often wrong, and so is the size sometimes, but the location at least for the two courses above are pretty darned close. I am not enough of a perfectionist to measure every tree in Google Earth, and there are literally hundreds on TPC San Antonio, but if that is your thing, go for it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2020 9:31:18 GMT -5
There was almost no mapping done in OSM on this course. My old PC got problems, so all my projects is on pause until that PC is fixed (problem with the motherboard most likely). So I started looking at Waialea - and the lidar data for Hawaii is very bad. Then I found out that this course was not mapped, and no one had made any comment on starting on it as I could see. I will repeat what I always say: do not use trees from Chad Tools. First: you cannot trust the trees to be correct, so you either way must measure and check everything and most likely must replant everything. Secondly - the trees imported from the tool takes too much plantmeter, so when you remove all the trees, you still have spent alot of plant meter. Planting trees saves a ton of plantmeter, and you get the trees correct with measurement combined with pictures and videos. I used trees on my first two courses, and found out that this was crap and have never used it since. As good as the tool is, this is not good. I beg to differ Anders. I have used trees on Old Town and am now using them on Bandon Dunes (did not need them on Sand Hills, there are no trees lol). I have found that you are partly right, the type of tree is often wrong, and so is the size sometimes, but the location at least for the two courses above are pretty darned close. I am not enough of a perfectionist to measure every tree in Google Earth, and there are literally hundreds on TPC San Antonio, but if that is your thing, go for it. That is another thing; dense forests are never dense enough with trees from the tool. So you get the too open look on many courses where there is dense forests. No - I do not measure every tree in dense forests, and on this course, there is alot of forests - some more dense than others. I do however spend quite some time measuring trees - but I would do that even with trees from Chad's tool - because I can't trust them to be correct. When you find trees in the middle of greens and bunkers - well..you are lucky if you got things correctly
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Post by ezzinomilonga on Mar 29, 2020 20:21:59 GMT -5
About this, checking courses i noticed that often, really often, despite a tree (or a group of trees) is placed in the same exact place as IRL they are, the "effect" on the course is not always the supposed one, if this make some sense. I mean that, being in game often less dense than in reality, trees perfectly planted around the fairway that IRL are definitely an obstacle to deal with, in game they results to be placed just a bit too far from the fairway to be actually an obstacle. I think the strategic placement that some tree is supposed to have on a course is way more important than his exact placement.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2020 15:15:48 GMT -5
About this, checking courses i noticed that often, really often, despite a tree (or a group of trees) is placed in the same exact place as IRL they are, the "effect" on the course is not always the supposed one, if this make some sense. I mean that, being in game often less dense than in reality, trees perfectly planted around the fairway that IRL are definitely an obstacle to deal with, in game they results to be placed just a bit too far from the fairway to be actually an obstacle. I think the strategic placement that some tree is supposed to have on a course is way more important than his exact placement. My focus is to get everything also the trees as close to reality as I can. I have used the pins for the 2019 Valero Tournament for this one.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2020 19:28:20 GMT -5
A teaser from the 16th before any real planting:
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2020 16:51:54 GMT -5
3rd has got some rockwall. This wall is quite vertical, but that did not look good in the game, so it became a slope that I think works pretty well.
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